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Weak Ax against tight players

This guy had 38% pfr, 14% limp, 46% coldcall, 8% 3bet over ~100 hands.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero650  SBDean_Ziad350  Effective Stacks: 18bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Dean_Ziad raises to 40, Hero goes all-in 650, Dean_Ziad goes all-in 310 No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero375  SBDean_Ziad625  Effective Stacks: 13bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB Dean_Ziad raises to 60, Hero goes all-in 375, Dean_Ziad calls 315


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really standard. i'd def be

really standard. i'd def be weighting 3bet shoving range to pure value and flat a lot more. it will feel like you are being such a huge nit in the big blind, but just keep in mind how much this guy is exploiting himself by opening so infrequently.

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how's your month going?

how's your month going? anything we covered during camp that you'd like to discuss further? post hands!

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Jack, I had the same leak of

Jack, I had the same leak of getting in with the last few chips too as pointed out by Hokie. The 60 or 40 chips saved at river when not reraise back is money too, which is like 10% of one buyin.

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Time to call it a weekend

Time to call it a weekend :-)September results so far:


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Took a few days off to do

Took a few days off to do some annoying paperwork, and now I'm back, ready and excited to learn and play.


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i love your love for beer.

i love your love for beer. haha. beers in the pool!post some hands!

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That's the beer glass of a

That's the beer glass of a winner.

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A3o against tight opener

Overall: 178 hands; 58 pfr, 7 limp, 42 coldcall, 13 3betBy the time this happened, I only had 33 hands with 35% pfr from this guy.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBJuKeeone500  BBHero500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB JuKeeone raises to 40, Hero calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, JuKeeone bets 40, Hero calls 40   Turn (160, 2 players) Hero checks, JuKeeone bets 100, Hero calls 100   River (360, 2 players) Hero checks, JuKeeone bets 100, Hero calls 100   Final Pot: 560 


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No notes expect the HH on

No notes expect the HH on this:No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero540  SBMr. cariry460  Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Mr. cariry raises to 40, Hero calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, Mr. cariry bets 40, Hero raises to 95, Mr. cariry calls 55   Turn (270, 2 players) Hero bets 160, Mr. cariry calls 160   River (590, 2 players) Hero checks, Mr. cariry checks   Final Pot: 590 


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Only have 35 hands from this

Only have 35 hands from this guy, so pretty much readless.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBcristy2504430  SBHero570  Effective Stacks: 22bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, cristy2504 raises to 60, Hero calls 20   Flop (120, 2 players) cristy2504 bets 20, Hero calls 20   Turn (160, 2 players) cristy2504 checks, Hero checks   River (160, 2 players) cristy2504 checks, Hero checks   Final Pot: 160 No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter  SBcristy2504550  BBHero450  Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB cristy2504 calls 10, Hero checks   Flop (40, 2 players) Hero bets 60, cristy2504 calls 60   Turn (160, 2 players) Hero bets 180, cristy2504 calls 180   River (520, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 190, cristy2504 calls 190   Final Pot: 900 


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This guy is a good $100

This guy is a good $100 reg.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBjyg4me440  SBHero560  Effective Stacks: 22bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, jyg4me calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) jyg4me checks, Hero bets 25, jyg4me calls 25   Turn (130, 2 players) jyg4me checks, Hero bets 60, jyg4me calls 60   River (250, 2 players) jyg4me checks, Hero bets 100, jyg4me calls 100   Final Pot: 450 


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Don't have any reads except

Don't have any reads except the HH on this one and the note that I lost it.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero430  SBthesye1570  Effective Stacks: 22bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB thesye1 calls 10, Hero checks   Flop (40, 2 players) Hero bets 25, thesye1 calls 25   Turn (90, 2 players) Hero bets 50, thesye1 calls 50   River (190, 2 players) Hero bets 100, thesye1 goes all-in 475, Hero goes all-in 235   Final Pot: 1000 


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Gotta go home, more hands

Gotta go home, more hands coming in shortly ...


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One of these annoying

One of these annoying slowplayers:No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBEsquiblet530  BBHero470  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Esquiblet calls 10, Hero raises to 60, Esquiblet calls 40    Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, Esquiblet bets 20, Hero calls 20    Turn (160, 2 players) Hero checks, Esquiblet bets 20, Hero calls 20    River (200, 2 players) Hero checks, Esquiblet bets 100, Hero folds    Final Pot: 300


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This guy was pretty much

This guy was pretty much fit-or-fold on the flop. He only continued with about 40% of his hands.Since this board should hit his range pretty hard, but he often checked back, I decided to lead really big here. Once he called, I thought he's most likely very strong, so decided to use a very large size on the turn.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBMr.matsie500  BBHero500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Mr.matsie raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero bets 75, Mr.matsie calls 75    Turn (230, 2 players) Hero bets 200, Mr.matsie folds    Final Pot: 430Same plan here: I cbet just half pot to cheaply make him fold - once he called and I made my hand ott, he should have a piece of that board, so I made a larger turn bet. Maybe I should even have made it bigger than this ? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBMr.matsie500  SBHero500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Mr.matsie calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Mr.matsie checks, Hero bets 40, Mr.matsie calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) Mr.matsie checks, Hero bets 100, Mr.matsie calls 100    River (360, 2 players) Mr.matsie checks, Hero goes all-in 320, Mr.matsie folds    Final Pot: 680


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Some lower-stakes reg who sat

Some lower-stakes reg who sat me a few times.I have already used this check/raising against him twice; once he jammed some weak top pair against my fd+overs and once he floated me with Ace-high.$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBLillTT87560  BBHero440  Effective Stacks: 22bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB LillTT87 raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, LillTT87 bets 40, Hero raises to 95, LillTT87 goes all-in 520, Hero goes all-in 305    Turn (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in)    River (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in)    Final Pot: 1000


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This guy 3bet the first hand

This guy 3bet the first hand to 100, then limp/folded, then this one happened.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero480  BBelvan0606520  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, elvan0606 raises to 60, Hero calls 20   Flop (120, 2 players) elvan0606 checks, Hero checks   Turn (120, 2 players) elvan0606 checks, Hero bets 80, elvan0606 raises to 160, Hero folds   Final Pot: 360 


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4betting Queens. He had 250

4betting Queens. He had 250 behind.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBLaukli410  SBHero590  Effective Stacks: 21bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Laukli raises to 80, Hero raises to 160, Laukli calls 80   Flop (320, 2 players) Laukli checks, Hero goes all-in 430, Laukli folds   Final Pot: 750 


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Gonna take a shot at some of

Gonna take a shot at some of these hands, hope you don't mind :]A3o: with the reads you had at the time I'd fold it on the turn.  Even if I had called the turn I'd def fold the river, it just screams value (and I think there are a good amount of kings in his range).  I mean yea he has a high PFR but that doesn't mean he's going to be triple barreling you here often enough to make calling profitable imo.59o: I'd fold pf, just seems to weak to call readless.  As played I'd CR larger something like 120ish, I think it will get a lot more folds and sets up a turn shove when u hit/when a blank comes. QKo:  I might seem a big aggro here but it seems like his range has got alot of pocket pair, some like 66-kk or so.  He's scared of the ace and I think you should exploit that.  I'm close between raising the flop or going bet/bet on the turn.  If I was raising his flop raise and he smooth calls I'd probably be triple barreling and I think you'll get a lot of folds by the river.58o:  Love the overbet of the flop, most people who will call a pot sized bet will call an over bet on this board.  Good bet sizing on the turn to set up a river shove.  I don't like the shove on the river, I think check call is better. If you shove your getting called 7's, maybe some turned aces, and flushes.  If you check most 7's will bet, aces will check back, flushes will bet, and his missed straight draws will probably bluff.  By betting you don't give him the chance to bluff and because your getting it in either way against his strong hands you might as well give him a chance to bluff with his crap hands.K8o: I prefer a cbet of 40 here.  I think I understand your reasons for betting smaller but I'd rather be building the pot with my top pair here.  By betting larger on the flop you could possibly get all of his chips in on the river vs only getting half his stack the way you played it. 106o: I'd lead 40-60 on this kind of flop.  If he's calling a smaller bet he's probably calling a larger one.  Such a terrible turn for you, I almost think C/C is better then betting.  I get kinda lost on these types of turn cards. I guess in game I'd still lead out and be folding to a raise (yay for being exploitable).  I like you river lead but I'm snap folding to a jam here.  Just don't think there's enough hands in his range that you beat.

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AKs:  This might be a leak of

AKs:  This might be a leak of mine, but I'm cbetting this flop.  We've got great backdoor equity (and Ace, king, or spade is great on the turn).  I think it's at good type of board to three barrel because when your CB gets flatted his range is usually polarized to flush draws, straight draws, and bottom/mid pair plus a draw.  Most opponents would usually reraise with their stronger hands because of the draw heavy board.  I don't think people can't stand up to three barrels with such a weak range.J9s:  I can understand your thinking but I don't like it.  You want to extract max value here, so I'd size my streets to where he could call your flop bet, turn bet, and then feel committed to call your allin on the river. Something I've been working on is thinking about what my goal in the hand is on the flop.  If I think I'm going to be barreling a lot, then I'll probably size my bets smaller so that my opponent doesn't feel committed to call on the river.  I'll then do the exact opposite when I'm value betting and trying to get his stack in.  It can be tough to find the right bet amount and it's something I struggle with ingame a lot (It's a lot easier to do in hindsight :] ).67o: This is another board where people won't be able to continue with a lot of their range by the river.  So many overcards/straight/flush cards that can come.  As played I'm good with flop and turn.  On the river I don't think a shove is getting called by worse very often but I think you could value by betting small and still get a crying call from his 4's/5's.JQs:  I'd be 3-betting QJs 100% of the time vs a reg here.  As played I'd reraise to 90 instead of 95 (idk I just think 90 looks weaker lol).  I think the main thing is that you use the same CR size you did the other times.  I'm snap calling his re raise and then making a note at what he showed up with. 38s:  Ehhh it's at the bottom of my opening range but I guess it's okay.  I know it's nitty but I'd just fold to the min re raise readless.  Don't think I had plays well enough post flop vs a randoms range here.  As played I'd have bet smaller something like 50-60 and be barreling a lot of rivers.QQ: Don't like it at all.  I'd just reshove QQ here.  Maybe u could get weird with AA/KK but even donkeys can usually tell when u min reraise a reraise that you have a good hand.  Guess that means you could bluff by min re raising a min raise from someone with crap sometimes lol :]Feel free to comment on some hands in my thread!           

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Hey, thanks a lot for your

Hey, thanks a lot for your comments :-)That KQo hand, would you ever 4bet this pre-flop ?58o: Yeah, I learned these overbets here in FastTrack :-)  Interesting idea with check/calling river - he probably would have raised us already with 7x / Ax, so his range should contain mostly (missed) draws and some 4x / 6x. Problem is that we only have so little behind, so he may just check behind instead of bluffing - being afraid that he doesn't have any fold-equity anymore.K8: Well, I'm experiencing a bit with these smaller cbets after reading that article on underbetting. This size works perfectly here with my air - but since this is a good player, I think I need to balance my ranges here and use the same size with my value hands ?T6o: Yeah, I'm really unhappy with the way how I played this hand.AKs: The problem with cbetting is that I'd just inflate the pot oop having no idea where I'm at. And firing 3 barrels would be really terrible against this guy. I think I'd actually snapcall if I bet here and he jams, but once he flats he can have anything - from complete air to a flopped straight, just anything. I've already seen him slowplay big hands on boards like that, he would not ever raise me here with top set.Since he's also passive, my plan was to just check/fold - but then he used these annoying minbets, giving me such great odds.J9s: Which sizes would you use here ?  On the turn, I got really scared of that 2nd flush-draw and wanted to protect my hand.76s: Like your idea :-)  How about making it something around 120 here ?


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KQ:  Usually I'd never be

KQ:  Usually I'd never be 4-betting KQ here.  I'd need pretty good reads that our opponent loves to min re raise retarded loose.  We've got a great hand in a position so I'm not all that worried.58o: I guess my point is that I we arean't losing any value by checking (we're getting it in against his hands that beat u either way) but we're giving him the illusion of fold equity which makes our river check/call more +ev then betting out imo.Guaranteed Hokie comes in here and tells both of us the river is a check/fold :]K8o: Hmmmm I'm assuming good means you've played a lot before?  Or does he just have good sharkscope stats?  If we just know that he's just got good stats them I'm probably betting 40 b.c. he might not know who you are.  That means I think most regs see 25-30=strong vs 40 as a "standard cb" that he might decide to get frisky against.  I'd def be betting 25-30 with my air though.  Once it seems like he's starting to catch on, I'd switch it up haha.AKs:  Those are some pretty specific reads.  Just because he slowplays top set against you doesn't mean he won't call 2 streets with a draw/weak pair hand and then fold to a 3rd barrel (or maybe even just fold on the turn).  It sounds like your being results oriented vs past hands because you ran into the top of his range.I just really think you can do better than a c/f here with your hand and the board texture.J9s:  I'd go with40 Pf, 50 on flop, 110 on turn, and then you've got a nice river bet to make where he's all like ahhhh I guess I gotta call with my TP :] It should be like 300 into 400 for him to call. Vs If I had a hand like JKo I'd size it 40 pf, 35 flop ,90  turn, and then my river bet size would be 335 into a pot of 330.  Not the most inviting of best sizes which is what we want him to think.I'm thinking about these sizings on the flop so that I have some semblance of a plan later on in the hand and don't get lostI used to want to "protect my hand."  Now I worry about making the right bet to get max value from my hand.  If he sucks out he sucks out.  What you need concentrate is finding the right size that he'll make a mistake by calling/raising against. 76s: Yea around 120 is what I think I'd bet.Feel free to chime in on my thread anytime :]  

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That other reg

He has good stats, we haven't played before. But I'm publicly displaying my SuperNova status at the tables, so he know that I'm another reg.I used this smaller cbet of t30 because I wanted to be able to use that same size agaisnt him with all my air.


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Second pair against a Shark

Second pair against a Shark ....No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBJacktShipper510  BBHero490  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB JacktShipper raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, JacktShipper bets 40, Hero calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) Hero checks, JacktShipper checks    River (160, 2 players) Hero bets 100, JacktShipper raises to 200, Hero goes all-in 410, JacktShipper calls 210    Final Pot: 980


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This guy was new to Hypers,

This guy was new to Hypers, played fairly tight on his button, only playing about 50% in the first 10 hands or so.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBNulata470  BBHero530  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Nulata raises to 40, Hero calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, Nulata bets 40, Hero calls 40   Turn (160, 2 players) Hero checks, Nulata checks   River (160, 2 players) Hero checks, Nulata bets 100, Hero folds   Final Pot: 260 


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First hand against an unknown

First hand against an unknown - am I too much of a Nit to fold here ?No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero500  BBOlyaaylo500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Olyaaylo calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) Olyaaylo checks, Hero bets 40, Olyaaylo raises to 100, Hero folds   Final Pot: 220 


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A3: flop and turn look ok.

A3: flop and turn look ok. river is prob bad though - i dont expect bluffs to be betting 60% on the turn then only 25-30% on the river - realllllly looks like thin value to me (6x, 77-QQ). then again, meh we need to be right 100/560 or 17%ish - so i can see calling i guess. i usually just ask myself "is he capable?" based on your stats, this guy doesn't seem the type to be capable of this line as a bluff too much. that's a bit of an assumption though, and you dont need to be right much - so sigh and call. basically i think its close, but the thought process is important.95o: definitely a fold pre for me. as played looks ok.KQ: looks good58: i LOVE stabbing 60 into 40 on this wet board limped. sooo many hands he will continue with, good job (assuming this is a non-thinking player that wont shut down their range a bunch).so if this is a fish, we can expect him to perceive the turn card as a scare card, so i think your turn sizing is a bit too big. tons of combo draws will continue no matter what you bet really, but i think a little smaller like t120 keeps a decent bit more hands in overall.k8: looks ok as played, but i don't really understand the 25 into 80 cbet. if you want to do a little smaller like t30-35 on dry boards i think its ok, 25 seems too small to me though - especially still at 20ish bb stacksT6: i might go a little bigger on flop and turn considering how wet the board is. river is a fold though, just a ton of striaght/flush/fullhouse/6x combos that beat you. AK: preflop and flop are great, very nice. turn i would actually lead as you rep it ridiculously well and it's not much of villains range im sure - lead something that sets up about a pot size shove on rivers to continue bluff. villain will call with lots of pairs, combos. should have a lot of river fold equity on most cards. not a lot of spots i'd take this line, but it looks really good here.J9: again, flop lead is really good. turn size seems way too big though. eff stx before turn bet are 385 and the pot is 230 - think about setting up river stacks, and how your sizing effects turn ranges, etc. when you bet 200 here, you are basically forcing villain to play shove/fold unless he is just uber-awful. you look strong, so i think you will just end up folding out a bunch of hands that you would get a lot more value from if you bet something like t100 - t100 still sets up river eff stx of 285 with a pot of 430 which is basically the nuts for maximizing value on both streeets.67: i think it's going to be hard for you to get paid off much when you jam here. villains perceived range is relatively weak, yours is strong (like i see this as a pretty good bluff line jamming here). i'd bet t140 and try get max value from some 5x  and other heros.QJ: mega-standard, especially given your dynamic.83: i think "rules" are typically awful for poker, but here is one i stand by: WHEN FACING A READLESS MIN3BET, DON'T TRY BLUFFING POSTFLOP. almost always the type of player that min3bets is awful and looking to stack off pretty damn light. just take your free equity and check back the turn, and value-town his life when you hit rivers - my god the A river is the nuts for you since that's a big part of his range probably. 

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@thecupshalffull thanks for

@thecupshalffullthanks for doing analysis in my stead. good stuff. few comments though:T6 analysis: we defff still need to bet this turn! bet/folding is fine. so much value from 8x/7x/draws that are checking back a lot when checked to. don't view ranges with a glass-half empty mindset - there are definitely more combos on this turn that you beat, than beat you. i'm not saying it's not a gross turn, but still a mandatory bet.AK analysis: average players limp/calling range is going to hit this board pretty damn hard. at deeper stacks, cbetting and barreling off is great imo - esp bc flatting ranges will be pretty weak typically so we can barrel real well. stack sizes at <25 stacks in a 6bb pot aren't going to be nearly as good for barreling 3 streets though, and people will be a lot more willng to stack off wide and play hands faster. interesting postflop hand, since it really would be a mandatory cbet deeper most of the time. 

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Anytime Hokie :] 106o: Good

Anytime Hokie :]106o: Good point, I've always had a hard time bet/folding strong hands and that's where my confusion came from.  I just gotta keep in mind his RR range here is so polarized to hands that beat me its okay to B/F. What's your plan if smooth called and the river is a blank?  Are we bet folding river or check calling?  I feel like he's folding most of his range to a river bet but we might get him to stab with his missed draws by checking.   

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QQ hand: just jam pre, unless

QQ hand: just jam pre, unless you think he is small-3betting real wide then i think a flat is better but it's close (def flatting KK/AA with this read). i just dont think many players small 3bet bluff at 20 bb stacks enough to justify not jamming any of these hands.95s: he's probably opening wide vs you, it's a great hand to 3bet bluff to like t90-95. i'd prefer that, unless you have some specific reasoning for why not.flop and turn look ok, but river i'm actually checking vs a good thinking villain even though we also checked turn and it is likely to check behind a lot. consider villains likely range: most 2 pair combos make no sense, 8x is def barreling the turn, all better hands barreling obv. so basically his range is total air (snap folding to your lead), weak 6x and lower single pair hands (snap folding to your lead), and 4X/9X/flush hands that backdoored that will obv be vbetting when checked to. also, your perceived range is basically all over this board - so i don't expect him to hero call wide at all when you lead.so checking is good bc it maximizes value from his 9X,T9 if he can't fold to a check jam (he is likely just flatting a lead with both of these hands, definitely 9X). also, when you check twice your perceived range is now pretty damn weak, so i think villain will have a lot of incentive to bluff here - and possibly even overbet bluff (i would overbet bluff here a ton vs most players)interesting hand, and a river spot where i think a lot of people leak really really hard.Q9: i'm folding the flop, you don't know his turn/river tendancies or even his cbet frequency really so i don't think we can expect to get to river with best hand enough. as played, wow you HAVE to lead this river. you can somewhat rep flushes, straights, and JX - most of which is not in villains range obv. i would lead this river 80%ish and expect a bunch of folds from A/K high.K4: nooooo! way too nitty! i mean, i can understand not stacking off to a c/r followed by turn and river barrels, but people will be shutting down on turns or rivers more than enough to justify flatting flop and reevaluating!also, this seems like a much better flop for a smaller cbet sizing, no? like t30ish? you have a shitload of air in your range, so a cbet that needs to work less frequently seems sexy to me.  

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T8/98/85/84 --- 2 random

T8/98/85/84 --- 2 random overs that floated flop with an 8 like Q8/K8too many 8X combos make sense to me here to justify not betting river. it's a limped pot, so ranges are this wide. if i thought he vbet thin, and would def bet all his 8X when checked to - then I like checking river a lot more since all hands that would call a lead vbet anyways, and we also can get value from missed draw bluffs. would like some specific reads for this though.

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TP against random fish when fd got there otr

First hand against an unknown fish. Check back or jam river ?No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero500  BBAndyG1810500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, AndyG1810 calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) AndyG1810 checks, Hero bets 50, AndyG1810 calls 50    Turn (180, 2 players) AndyG1810 checks, Hero bets 120, AndyG1810 calls 120    River (420, 2 players) AndyG1810 checks, Hero has 290 behind ...


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i would jam. don't really see

i would jam. don't really see the reason to cbet 60% of pot with this particular hand at <25 stx tho. just cbet half pot.

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99 against Shark

This one was against a very good regular (and Fast Track member ?).After he flatted my cbet on this board - which really shouldn't hit his 3bet calling range at all - I had really no idea what he had, except some weird Ace-high floats maybe. In theory, there should be zero value hands in his range, therefor I decided to check/call to bluff-catch.When he checked back, I went for some thin value from A-high.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBemotionx500  BBHero500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB emotionx raises to 40, Hero raises to 80, emotionx calls 40   Flop (160, 2 players) Hero bets 60, emotionx calls 60   Turn (280, 2 players) Hero checks, emotionx checks   River (280, 2 players) Hero bets 120, emotionx calls 120   Final Pot: 520 


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What do you think about his line in this hand ?

I'm also very interested to learn what you think about his line:He had QQ here and IMO, he played it really terrible.I mean, what's my plan with KQ here if he jams over my cbet ?  He should never have any 4 or 5 after flatting my 3bet and he's certaily 4bet-jam any PP's or Ax hands.  The only hand that makes sense for him to have here is 67s and some random overcard type hands.Which means that KQ should be way ahead of his flop jamming range, so I'd bet/call with it.Well, he probably expected me to fire multiple barrels, then the board got a bit dangerous.


mersenneary's picture
I think 40->80 is too small

I think 40->80 is too small pre with 99. Postflop I like your line. He should bet small on the turn and jam river to represent 5x (don't pretend that wouldn't have worked!) :)Wow, just read what he had. Hmm. So, I disagree with you that he never has a 5 or a 4 - why 67s but not 65s, 54s, etc, especially given the small raise size? It's small enough that flatting A5/A4/a whole host of 4x/5x suited hands is correct. That said, his range should be pretty wide which obviously means a lot of that junk that doesn't have a 4 or a 5.Preflop, his flat makes a decent amount of sense. Smallish Non-allin 4bet is super strong which isn't what he wants to represent (but is the correct play against most opponents because they'll call and stack off anyway). You're going to be c-betting a ton after this size so he can make the raise there. I'm cool with it.Postflop, the only reason not to jam is because he thinks you have a serious amount of bluffs in your range. Otherwise yes, you should be calling it off with everything you were 3betting for value. Hell it's actually kind of close with almost ATC because of the possibility of those 76/87/86 type holdings and doing fine enough against 5x. Flatting actually sends off more alarm bells than jamming for that reason - all of those hands you should be jamming, not flatting, on this flop.Against anybody halfway decent enough to know that they should be bet/calling this flop with whatever they valuebet pre with, it's a jam on the flop, I agree. I also think it's a river jam - come on, QQ is the best hand there the vast majority of the time, and there are missed draws/air hands.

jackoneill's picture
HH's for Tuesday's Coaching Session

Assembling HH's for tomorrow's primary session in here ...

Still to investigate:

  • One of the games against tomekrus around 10/16 12:50
  • One of the games against akimott around 10/16 10:00
  • One of the games against Ryokan around 10/15 10:34
  • Bram_Vanres around 10/13 10:20
  • One game against Ryokan, maybe

Fish / Shark list from HEM (more than 200 hands):

  • Fish list:perumov / rocks50 / Agent Bonnie / Bram_Vanres / hockeyguy177 
  • Shark list:TheShow35 /  sarabiamty / tomekrus / volpin85

SS:sarabiamty         1,188-$5  $48  -8%-$5,459  TiltN/APokerStarsE<=2 Spd=STTheShow35         1,381-$1  $36  1%-$806  TiltN/APokerStarsE<=2 Spd=STtomekrus         2,260-$3  $106  1%-$6,517  -N/APokerStarsE<=2 Spd=ST Ok, looks like I have a few fish to analyze ....


jackoneill's picture
Chevron 9 .... is .... LOCKED

Just got a call from Rodney McKay.  His team successfully dialed the 9th chevron and established a stable wormhole to Destiny !Which means it's time for me to start packing, in a few days I'll embark on the journey of my life ...This is me saying goodbye to you, but first of all, I'd like to thank you all, especially Mersenneary and Greg !  I had a great time and learned a lot, you guys helped me transfrom from a fish into a somewhat decent reg.And it's also time for me to learn something new, it's basically both a challenge and a test for me, they only hired me for a month, with the option of extending it into a permanent position and renegotiating salary at the end of the month.My bankroll is now at $10k and I made 160k VPPs so far, so I really wanted to reach that 2nd SuperNova milestone, but maybe I can still do that in December, take a few days off over christmas and mass-grind 4k games in that time or something like that.For the next couple of weeks, I think it's best if I take a break from poker, not play a single hand in November. This job will be very hard and I'll have to learn a ton of stuff, so I'd be very tired at the weekends anyways.They want me to start on Monday, and I still need to do a ton of paperwork first, so it pretty much looks like I already played my last hand - but I'll still be around a bit here and on 2+2, analyse my previous sessions, trying to find leaks.


hokiegreg's picture
I wish you the best of luck,

I wish you the best of luck, Martin. Look forward to working with you again in a few months.

jackoneill's picture
Thanks a lot !

Thanks a lot !I'll definitely come back, most likely already end of November.  I still need to make 40k VPPs for the next SN milestone and rather wouldn't pass up on that. That's about 4k games at the $100's. I also have about 150k FPPs at the moment, so if I reach that milestone, I'd get close to $7k in rakeback, so I'd actually need even less than 1% ROI over these 4k games to double my bankroll. That's actually a very good reason to come back.If I wasn't running that much over EV, then I may even have passed up on that job, accepting it was definitely a -EV business decision, though only marginally -EV.However, I'm still convinced it was the right thing to do, I simply couldn't handle that extreme emotional pressure anymore (see also http://www.husng.com/content/playing-poker-living-its-marathon-not-sprin...) - that huge amount of negative feedback from people who were previously close to me, that finally got too much for me.I'm still convinced that I could have had a great future from playing poker - playing so many regs during a time where I've been under such extreme emotional pressure really improved my confidence a lot. I think I can safely say that my mental game has improved a lot since Barcelona, I'm much stronger now mentally than I've ever been before.I was even planning on taking a few sessions with Jared to help me deal with that family / social problem.However, I am really unhappy about how I played in October. There were no sessions, where I went on crazy monkey tilt, but I've been very unconcentrated - it really started to hurt my feeling really bad how people close to me did everything they could to make me quit poker.As time passed on, it started to get harder and harder to get that picture out of my head that my friends tried to teach me: And then the phone rang ....I just finished my weekend grind, playing almost 300 games on Saturday night and Sunday afternoon, I was about to fall asleep at the tables, but some huge fish kept rematching me, so I kept accepting - but the moment, my balance went 5-digits, I immediately quit, ran out to a bar drinking.Next day, I had another huge fight with my mom - after I already got into a huge fight with my dad on Saturday - so I was unable to do anything that day.So this afternoon, I finally called Miguel and we quickly came to an agreement. It's not quite the salary that I would have hoped for, but the job itself is really exciting and he urgently needs me for it. And I agreed ....That's another thing that I learned here:My decision to take this job was a business decision. Of course, it feels a little bit like I'm giving in to that huge fight with my dad (he threw me out of the house, wants me to get a real job and seek psychological help about my "gambling problem").  But I'm not a child anymore, I can't let that influence my decisions in any way.  Miguel is an old friend and his company is just starting, so he can't pay me any more at the moment, but he really needs me, so I don't want to let him down.Therefor, I think it's the right thing to do this - it definitly has a positive life EV. Sure, it's less money than I could make by full time grinding $100's, but I'm helping an old friend and the money comes variance-free. And if I had to pay any taxes on that poker money, that would actually make grinding -EV compared to that job.


hokiegreg's picture
i'm real tired and will

i'm real tired and will respond in more detail later. i'll say this though:there is a lot of risk in the way you are approaching becoming a professional poker player. you don't have a lot of financial cushion, you are still in the learning process, and you are risking a large gap on your resume. all of these are REAL concerns that you should keep in mind. it doesn't mean that i think you shouldn't try playing for a living, but it's definitely important to be realistic about your situation. i mean, how many months ago was it that you were a total fish? you have worked very hard, but building a long term successful career in poker is extremely difficult - if it was as easy as studying hard for a few months a lot more people will do it. their is absolutely risk involved in playing poker for a living.if you are concerned about a resume gap, then i'd suggest working until you are near certain that you have enough financial cushion and PROVEN SKILL to make it as a poker player. there is no doubt that you have the work ethic, and i definitely think you have a future in poker - but developing the skills necessary to perform on a high level over the long term in poker takes a while.i definitely can't tell you that there is no risk in what you are doing and that you will make it 100% of the time. i'm sure some of your parents concerns are justified. 

jackoneill's picture
Yeah, well now that I got

Yeah, well now that I got that job offered, one important variable has changed:Playing poker is not my only option anymore.  Now I have a job with a somewhat decent salary, and an opportunity to eventually make a career in that company. And it's something that I can put into my resume.Hopefully, the skills that I learned so far will allow me to grind on the weekends once I fully setlled in in that new job. I mean, it always worked in the past, except that I was a fish and not a winning player back then.It also takes a lot of stress from me, because now every dollar that I win is money that I can just spend without having to worry about how to pay my bills.Ok, off to my parent's place; busy day today ...


hokiegreg's picture
ya you have definitely

ya you have definitely acquired a ton of valuable knowledge over the past few months. no doubt about that. i just encourage you to make sure you don't go "all in" with poker as a career just yet - leave yourself some outs. there is a LOT more to being a professional poker player than understanding strategy and putting in volume. i definitely think you can do it though...just expect the inevitable big bumps in the road. it's a tough way to make an easy liviing. cliche obv, but its so true

jackoneill's picture
Destiny

It's been a bit over a week since a stepped through the Stargate and Col. Young just allowed me to use the communication stones for the first time.Life here on Destiny is really great and an exciting adventure, but I also already miss my old friends from Earth.I may not have much time to grind in November, but still decided to come back full and make this a learning month :-)


jackoneill's picture
Football time ....

Just watched Mersenneary's 2nd half of my leakfinder video and really loved it :-)Got really excited and would love to grind - but the Colts' game already started and the Patriot's are playing the Steelers tonight, football time !


hokiegreg's picture
what NFL team do you root

what NFL team do you root for? the Colts? you are a real fan if you are actually watching the game today!

jackoneill's picture
Yeah, that game sucked so

Yeah, that game sucked so badly that I stopped watching really soon and grinded a little bit - quickly made 5 BI's, so Fast Track has already been payed for :-)I liked the Colts last season, but they really suck this season.I'm actually a Patriot's fan, so I'll watch that game against the Steelers in half an hour.


jackoneill's picture
Going All-In !

It's been two weeks now since I stepped through the Stargate, and things have been going well on the ship so far. However, there are a few things that are completely different from what I would have expected.For instance, it is impossible to use the communication stones while Destiny is in hyperspace. Rush said there's a physical reason for this: the communication stones operate in traditional 5-dimensional hyperspace, just like the Stargate network does, but Destiny's faster-than-light drive is actually operating on a 6-dimensional basis - therefor making all 5-dimensional communication impossible. We are, however, working on a means of 6-dimensional communication.We only dropped out of hyperspace for a few hours to replentish supplies, so I don't have much time here ...I wish I could have read all the new threads, posts and articles, but time is almost over, so I'm just quickly saying hello :-)And I also discovered a secret that I would like to share with you guys:I have found three great reasons why it was a good idea to renew FastTrack for Full again:a) I already miss you guys !b) I have a ton of money lying around on Stars anyways that may not be used anymore for the rest of this year.c) I can make posts like this:Cheers, have fun and good luck at the tables !Entering Hyperspace, till next weekend ....


hokiegreg's picture
Jack. how's it going!?!? ask

Jack. how's it going!?!? ask me some questions :)

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