No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNjstncredible11450 BBHero1550 Effective Stacks: 29bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BBjstncredible1 raises to 100, Hero raises to 300 This guy is an interesting player. He's doesn't seem bad at playing 20-30bb stacks (seem to open about 60 % of hands) but min raises something like 80% of hands from 7bb-15bb. He'll do stuff like min raise call k2o for 12x bb, or min r call for 12x bb with 45s. So not a horrible player but not a good one either. Do you think it's worth it to sit him?H: 2,028 VP: 76.9 PFR: 55.5 3B: 11.8He doesn't seem to like to get it in early with marginal hands and folds to my 25-30 bb re shoves a lot. I think vs this player type it might be more profitable to 3x his min raises with the top and bottom of my range(something like AJ+ 99+ and then 46s 610o type hands), and then just raise to 250 with my my K9s, Q10s+, K10+ type hands that play really well against his opening/ 3b calling range but that I can still get away from if he 4 bets me all in.I'm been open shoving 22-88 vs his min raising range but I'm not sure if I should be doing something different with 77-88.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBTebowRulz1375 BTNHero1625 Effective Stacks: 28bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BTNHero raises to 100, TebowRulz goes all-in 1375, Hero calls 1275One of the first hands in the gameStandard call? If this is a call then how loose are you calling here? I think it's something like 55+, KQs, A9, A7s.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNHero2175 BBlatixpoker825 Effective Stacks: 17bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BTNHero goes all-in 2175, latixpoker calls 775Whats your BB # cut off for shoving a weak ace like this? It feels wrong for me to open shove this deep. Doing it at like 14 or 15 bb makes sense to me but I think we can manuever enough post flop at 17-18 BB.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNmansolillo9151733 BBHero1267 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BBmansolillo915 calls 25, Hero goes all-in 1267, mansolillo915 calls 1217H: 30 PFR: 20 VP: 84 My read when I made this play was that this guy was a weak limper. Okay with the open shove here or would a raise to 175 be better? I think open shove because it's really tough to play oop with a weak ace and we sometimes get spaz calls from donks with hands like 45s.If I didn't know that he was such a huge limper I'd be more in favor of the raise to 175 and playing it post flop.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1250 BTNILoveTswizzle1750 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BBILoveTswizzle raises to 100, Hero calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) Hero bets 100, ILoveTswizzle raises to 300, Hero calls 200 Turn (800, 2 players) Hero bets 850H: 146 PFR:41 VP:66I think the call and flop lead are the best play. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to call his raise on the flop or just fold. At the same time I'm getting 3-1 on my money with 2 over cards and a inside straight draw. When the turn hits I have to shove to protect my hand right?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBJackinOff1225 BTNHero1775 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BTNHero raises to 100, JackinOff raises to 250, Hero?H: 21 PFR: 48 VP:71 3B: 42.9Whats the weakest that your willing to call against a player like this?What about against someone with a more tame 3B percentage of about 15% or so?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNILoveTswizzle1775 BBHero1225 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BBILoveTswizzle raises to 100, Hero raises to 250, ILoveTswizzle calls 150 Flop (500, 2 players) Hero bets 975Perfect example of me being lazy while playing. Better to just Cbet 200-250/fold to a shove right? If he smooth calls are you okay with shoving blank turns?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNHero1450 BBGoodHandKid171550 Effective Stacks: 29bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BTNHero raises to 100, GoodHandKid17 calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) GoodHandKid17 checks, Hero bets 100, GoodHandKid17 raises to 300, Hero calls 200 Turn (800, 2 players) GoodHandKid17 bets 400, Hero calls 400 River (1600, 2 players)GoodHandKid17 checks, Hero checks H: 80 PFR: 29 VP:66I think smooth calling is best with my hand. I don't see the avg player geting it in with mid pr/a straight draw and most will continue to barrel they're air on the turn and river. I don't think the Queen changes anything so I call again.On the river I think I'd be folding to a shove but once he checks I wanna make a thin value bet of about 200 chips to get value from his 5's/weaker jacks. I could also be value owning myself against his stronger jacks/weak 2 pr hands that got scared 67 hit.
86o: ya if i think he's capable and have a very aggro dynamic (and he can reasonably believe that you won't make huge hero calls here) then i'm going to call as well. fwiw if you have a aggro flop c/r dynamic, this is probably a good hand to checkback as it plays well vs turn/river leads but not so much vs a equity-heavy c/r range.KQ: looks fine to me, unless you think he won't flat much and will just jam over a lead a lot (with a wider range than eh will call an overbet shove with). you do better vs as wide a range as possible, but ya avoiding wierd turn spots where you have to give up is prob v good.
AQ: minraising 60% at 20-30 and then widening to 80% at <15 seems pretty ass-backwards to me against the average player! def worth sitting him. that is my default 3betting sizing strategy fwiw. i think it works best vs the average player. i'm def 3bet/calling 77/88 vs this type and not overbet shoving. A9: i agree. good range.A4: i would openjam A2-A7 always <15 deep. 16-20bb stacks if i am playing someone who flats a lot oop and is really active or stationy postflop, i would just openjam A2-A7 there too. this type player usually calls worse when we jam this deep anywasy lol - KQ/J9s type stuff. it's almost def the best expectation for these hands vs this type player.A5: if i'm raising A5s over a limp its going to be a jam or i'm just not doing it. like you said, has pretty bad expectation postflop vs a limp/calling range. i don't want to discourage people from limping, so i don't want to beat my edge to death by raising lots of limps and discouraging my opponent from limping a wide/weak range. i'd just raise 2.75-4xbb with different types of hands - some good stuff like A9+ 77+ KQ/KJ etc, then some bluffs as well since you probably have a good amount of fold equity. if you raise that type range you will only be raising limps with like 20% of total hands, so you won't be inflating your frequency to much and discouraging his limps. remember how +ev it is for us when our opponents limps a wide range - we get free equity to play postflop with a ton of hands that we would otherwise fold to a raise. we do not want to lose that edge usually.in a coffeeshop right now, 2 super hot girls in here. i hope that made sense. i'm distracted.T8: it's a wierd stack size to bet/call since we have to check/fold lots of turns with a bunch committed. it's also a wierd board texture for our hand vs a typical raising range over a donkbet here - so many flush draw, combo draw, T9, overpair combos that we are doing pretty poor against. so i don't think either is that great. check/call is better imo. if you know villain raises your donkbets wide, bet/3betting will def be best. can't see bet/calling being good very often at all.if i'm donking here it's with hands that bet/3bet or bet/fold really easily basically. just too many combos villain can have that continue well.Q7s: 42% is damn wide. i would tighten pfr a bit to 70%ish. 4bet jamming 22-JJ, AX, KT+ and some weak KXs. flatting T8o+ 87s+ basically. that is a ton of hand combos we are continuing with, so we aren't folding too very many 3bets - maybe only 40% of the time we fold.KQ: just check/fold the flop unless you know he calls 3bets pretty wide. this flop connects to a 3bet calling range pretty damn hard. can't imagine a lot of fe here.J7: with only 650 behind after his turn bet, i'm just jamming over the turn lead to protect equity. good questions
"in a coffeeshop right now, 2 super hot girls in here. i hope that made sense. i'm distracted."I would play it the same way :] Got some random questions for you. 1. I was playing that bikembrady guy yesterday and we chatted a bit. I told him that I had gotten coaching from you and I was in fasttrack. He said he had been coached but wouldn't say by who because he didn't want to "out" his coach. I have no idea about hu coaching edict so if I wasn't supposed to say that you had been helping me I apologize. 2. I've been playing some regs that love to talk crap while playing. Do you think it's +ev to just mute them or should I keep the chat open in case they want to ever set up some sort of lobby sharing system? 3. I feel comfortable playing 6 tables tiled as of right now while probably playing my B game. I know that I can play my A game when I'm just 3-4 tabling, but cutting my volume by almost 40-50% would really suck. What do you think I should do? 4. I've been reading everyone's threads like crazy, watching videos, posting hands, and using PPT a lot. I think my game has gotten so much better than it was and my recent results reflect that. Yet for the love of god, I can't get my damn red line to go up on HM. I know it's stupid to be obsessed with $EV results but I'm worried that I'm just on a heater.I've seen you playing the $254 Super Turbo's, any way that you could post your HM graph of them with your redline? 5. I'm interested in getting some 1 on 1 coaching with you. Lemme know how we should go about setting it up :]
1) LOL at not wanting out his coach. I've heard of that at like nosebleed cash, but not low-mid stake husngs lol. I don't care at all.2) If they are talking crap while playing, they are almost certainly not focused on adjusting and playing well - and probably are very susceptible to tilting. Sounds +ev to me! Don't worry about lobby sharing systems. Just play regs occasionally, it will make you a better player long term even though you might sacrifice some short term ROI. Also, most of these regs that talk a big game about sitting your life and what not - they are saying it because they are insecure and scared...they will quit you pretty quick probably.3) You probably expend more mental energy 6 tabling than you do 3-4 tabling. Shouldn't this mean that you would be able to play longer sessions on 3-4 tables? That should make up for some of the lost volume. 4) I played on 3 different computers over the past few months, so only have a max 250 game sample size on this computer. I'll post it after 1k games or so - a month or 2 from now. I saw a thread in the 2p2 husng forum where people were posting their hypers graphs recently - check that out.Could you go 1k games without looking at your HEM graph? Just focus on good decisions and see what happens. There is so much red line variance in hypers, it really takes quite a while to even out. 5) email me at gtillerhokie@gmail.com and we will talk more about 1-on-1. looking forward to it.
3) Hmmm good point about expending more mental energy. One thing that has worked for me is to start off playing 4 tables and if I'm feeling fresh/motivated that day get up to 6 in my session. If I'm feeling more tired/unfocused then stay at 4 so that I don't go into autopilot mode.I've been having trouble getting myself to play longer than one hour sessions. I'm guessing I should just try to incrementally do it. Like start at 1 hour, then next time I play do an hour and 5 mins, etc etc.4) I've read the thread on there a lot actually. It definitely has some good gems on information and luck adjusted graphs.I've been trying to do a microcosm of your idea. My problem was that I constantly had been checking my results/redline while I played (usually every 20 minutes or so). My goal was to only look at the end of the day when I'm done playing. I even told my gf to bitch at me if she saw me looking at my redline while in a session :] My only worry about not looking after 1K game is that I still have a lot of leaks to fix. I've found that I'll play well for a while but I fall back into old habits easily. I think looking at my redline/results each day makes me study my game more and expose my weaknesses. The trade off is that even only looking at the daily swings can be tough to mentally handle. 5)Just sent it.
3) yep. just increase and find the point where you start stuggling and push yourself a little past it. analyze your performance during the period you struggle -- what did you do worse? what did you still do well? this usually gives you a pretty good idea of your C game. the things you still do well when on your C game is usually the things that you have fully mastered.4) ya i can understand not wanting to wait 1k games to look. i think maybe every 200 games would be a better idea though. just remember that while your redline might not be great the past few thousand games or whatever - if you improve your game a lot realy fast in this forum, you could easily go through some red line variance before you begin to see any real improvement. also, it takes a while to start implementing all of the new things you are learning consistently (when you are on your B-/C game, a lot of these new things you are learning you will be failing at pretty hard because you haven't fully mastered them yet). this is the essence of the learning process - i'd recommend Jared Tendler's 'The Mental Game of Poker' for more on this idea.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNHero2075 BBjonnygotta925 Effective Stacks: 9bb Blinds 50/100 Pre-Flop (150, 2 players)Hero is BTN Hero?If our opponent has a reshoving range of aprox any ace, any pair, k6s+, k8o+ Q10s, QJ and flats with somethink like 40% of the rest of his hands(j10S,Q9o all the way down to 94s 63s type stuff) whats our best play here?I think raise calling is optimal vs a wide 3-better (shoving j7s type hand etc) but against someone who loves to flat with such a wide range I think a open jam is better.
Kind of an out of the box play here, but what are your thoughts on raising to 350 ^^, calling any re raise all in, and getting it in on any flop?I've messed around with it in the past and I've had people do some wierd stuff. Like smooth call with A2o vs a 3.5x raise 9 bb deep, they hit their ace and we get it in. The thing is if they're doing in the long run, then they're only hitting a peice of the flop 35ish% of the time which means I get 1/3 of their stack when they check fold. This play could easily be exploited by any who realizes what I'm doing but it seems like it could be extremely profitable against the right type of donk.
If our opponent has a reshoving range of aprox any ace, any pair, k6s+, k8o+ Q10s, QJ and flats with somethink like 40% of the rest of his hands(j10S,Q9o all the way down to 94s 63s type stuff) whats our best play here?I think raise calling is optimal vs a wide 3-better (shoving j7s type hand etc) but against someone who loves to flat with such a wide range I think a open jam is better.well villain is never folding any of those hands to an openshove anyways, and we are doing alright vs that range given that we only need like 38% equity once we minraise. most of the range that villain is flatting is folding to a jam though. if we can get value from a range we do so well against, that seems pretty good to me (as long as we aren't giving free equity i.e. limping). just minraise and stack off super light when flatted (not 100% obvvv - god people over-do that). postflop will be high variance for us, but look at how f'ing hard villain is spewing - there is no way we have a bigger edge by just jamming pre and getting a little EV bc he might fold too much.i think a lot of players are wary of these short effective stack high variance situations bc they don't like stacking off light, but when you actually consider how the winrate you have in 9bb poker shovefests - that's probably even higher variance a lot of times...it just doesn't feel like it bc "it's standard".it's a rare situation obv, and i'd like some specific reads for it. also, K9, QJ type hands are going to be way better for this than an A8 - since villains range realizes equity so easily vs A8.theory games are fun.
Kind of an out of the box play here, but what are your thoughts on raising to 350 ^^, calling any re raise all in, and getting it in on any flop?I've messed around with it in the past and I've had people do some wierd stuff. Like smooth call with A2o vs a 3.5x raise 9 bb deep, they hit their ace and we get it in. The thing is if they're doing in the long run, then they're only hitting a peice of the flop 35ish% of the time which means I get 1/3 of their stack when they check fold. This play could easily be exploited by any who realizes what I'm doing but it seems like it could be extremely profitable against the right type of donk.well if you are referring to being against the same villain i just responded about, minraising is going to be way better probably as i think that player is going to nit up a bit more vs t350 bc it looks so f'ing ridiculous lol. i like the creativity though, and i think you are on the right track...basically i just think the opponents you are referring to are the wrong one bc people respect the committing sizing more and nit up more which isn't really what we are trying to accomplish with a hand like K9sconsider this scenario:you are 6.5 bb deep vs a thinking player who is calling a wide range (probably close to NASH) - you have been playing shove/fold and you know he knows this is your standard. you also know that this villain is almost definitely not the type to ever flat a minraise at such short stacks (if he's not the type to flat much at 11stx, there is like no way he is flatting 6.5). take a hand that is just slightly outside NASH and minraise/call. so J4o for example, i think that's a shove at 6.1bb stacks (dont have NASH chart on me). it's likely the first time you do this, or if done very rarely, it will get a lot of respect from this type opponent. maybe he folds out a bunch of hands that would otherwise have folded to a jam. maybe he only folds out like 15% of hands that would have otherwise folded to a jam - you are exploiting him quite a bit by getting some extra folds at such short stacks. when you put 2bb in the pot and get jammed on, you are committed to call anyways so its effectively the same thing as an openshove except you created more fold equity.i think most thinking villains fall into the category of nitting up A TON when faced with a rare minraise from another thinking player at these stacks.
Theory games: I likeeeee it. Really good explanation of why it's way more +ev to to min raise/play postflop alot against these types rather than just shove it. I think I've been results oriented lately and it's caused me to pass up on the more optimal play at times. I'm glad I caught it now instead of a month from now :] Out of the box: Haha thanks, let me throw this one at you. If we have a hand like J2S and were 14x deep against the type of player that I described do u maybe like the 3-3.5x raise?My thinking is that if he shoves we not committed, he's going to view our raise as an extremely strong range, our hand doesn't play well postflop, and even if we do get called we can make a scary small cbet on a lot of boards that will get us a fold. If my understanding is correct, we minraise instead of 2.5x 14 bb deep because we think that it will accomplish the same thing but risk less of our stack. If that's the case and we come to the conclusion that were getting flatted/raised by 70% of hands vs a 2x, 60% of hands vs a 2.5x, but vs a 3.5x only about 30ish % of hands, If that the case then making that raise is good in a vacuum.Obviously this is extremely player dependent and wouldn't be a play used on a consistent basis. 6.5x BB thinking: I'm pretty sure we talked about this really quickly at the end our coaching session. I liked the idea then and I still like it now :] Thanks for reminding me though, I had completely forgot about integrating it into my game. Now that I think about it, it seems like my above idea on the 14x BB theory is almost a magnified version of your theory. Exploiting what someone thinks about a certain raise at a specific stack size.
cross-posting the J2s question to Mers-only. not really satisfied with my answer, mainly bc i don't undersatnd the math behind the risk/reward from a big small blind raise. i just have a strong intuitive mathematical understanding for a lot of stuff, wierd stuff like this throws me off sometimes.
ya i was thinking similar to what Mers said - basically that it can work if it effects villain's ranges properly (he nits up too much, and doesnt flat much). i think it requires way too specific of reads though, but obv you can make a lot of stuff work with really specific reads. it's def not a play i'd make based off assumptions or anything though.minraise/calling J4o at 6.5bb stacks like i was talking about is different though imo - i think you can much easier make the assumption that you most regs are never flatting at 6.5bb stacks against a minraise, and that it's unlikely most of them will still 3bet shove the same range that would have called an openshove (NASH calling range). so i think this is a better play bc it requires less specific reads (it can't ever be that bad).
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNgreatest151725 BBHero1275 Effective Stacks: 26bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BBgreatest15 raises to 100, Hero calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) Hero bets 100, greatest15 calls 100 Turn (400, 2 players) Hero bets 200, greatest15 calls 200 River (800, 2 players) Hero checks, greatest15 bets 1325, Hero foldsFinal Pot: 2125 greatest15 wins 2125 ( won +400 ) Hero lost -400You like? I think B/F flop is better than C/C readless. Betting turn for value and then hero gets sad and C/F's the ugly river.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNgreatest152150 BBHero850 Effective Stacks: 17bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BB greatest15 calls 25, Hero raises to 200, greatest15 foldsFinal Pot: 250Hero wins 250 ( won +50 )greatest15 lost -50 What sizing do you like here and why? I think 150 will get a lot more calls vs 200 but were OOP which sucks for our hand and stack size imo.
K9: eh i understand your thought process with the K9 donk, but i really dont think the average player cbets this board that wide - or when they do cbet they dont barrel that wide. so i'm really not that worried about c/c-reevaluating too much. people or just so fit or fold when checked to on these boards. i think you get yourself in a lot more awkward spots when you lead here, mainly bc of the general spazziness of the average player vs donkbets on wet boards - your hand doesnt stand up very well vs that.so basically i like the creative thought process, but i think you are just overestimating how difficult to play this hand as a c/c really isAQ: t175-200 is fine for the reasons you mentioned. i kind of prefer t175 bc i feel that t200 just gets a ton of folds and is probably just better as a pure bluff really (unless ur playing someone who will limp/call wide obv) i'd raise to t-130ish with my JT-KQ/AA-JJ type stuff tho as it fairs better vs a wide limp/calling range.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNbpmst21750 BBHero1250 Effective Stacks: 13bb Blinds 50/100 Pre-Flop (150, 2 players)Hero is BB bpmst2 calls 50, Hero checks Flop (200, 2 players) Hero bets 100, bpmst2 calls 100 Turn (400, 2 players) Hero checks, bpmst2 bets 200, Hero foldsFinal Pot: 600 bpmst2 wins 600 ( won +200 ) Hero lost -200This guy had a 70% raise percentage but barely ever limped over 70 hands. I think it's close between check raising AI and leading. If I think he's going to be stabbing a good % of the time then CR is better but if I think the opposite then leading is good?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNmk308061000 BBHero2000 Effective Stacks: 20bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BBmk30806 raises to 150, Hero calls 100 Flop (300, 2 players) Hero checks, mk30806 checks Turn (300, 2 players) Hero checks Had him raising 45% and limping 15% over 300 hands. PF call is okay right? Hadn't seen him 3x much so far. Do you like to lead turn or C/C one street then reevaluate depending on river?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBmk308061150 BTNHero1850 Effective Stacks: 12bb Blinds 50/100 Pre-Flop (150, 2 players)Hero is BTNHero raises to 200, mk30806 calls 100 Flop (400, 2 players) mk30806 checks, Hero checks Turn (400, 2 players) mk30806 bets 100, Hero calls 100 River (600, 2 players) mk30806 checks, Hero checks Final Pot: 600 mk30806 shows Hero shows mk30806 wins 600 ( won +300 ) Hero lost -300Started looking over entire games instead of specific spots and found this. Obviously a standard Cb 150/fold but I had to post it to remind myself to STOP randomly not cbetting after I had just lost the previous hand. That is all :]
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNmk308061590 BBHero1410 Effective Stacks: 14bb Blinds 50/100 Pre-Flop (150, 2 players)Hero is BBmk30806 raises to 225, Hero calls 125 Flop (450, 2 players) Hero checks, mk30806 bets 200, Hero foldsFinal Pot: 650mk30806 wins 650 ( won +225 )Hero lost -225 This guy isn't opening super wide so I think 810o might be a bit to loose to call here. Flatting range of something like J9o, J7s, Q8s, Q9o, J10o, Q10o, 78s, 89s, 109o, 97s look good or are you going wider?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBbusk49111400 BTNHero1600 Effective Stacks: 28bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BTNHero raises to 100, busk4911 calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) busk4911 checks, Hero bets 75, busk4911 raises to 150, Hero calls 75 Turn (500, 2 players) busk4911 checks, Hero bets 150, busk4911 raises to 300, Hero foldsFinal Pot: 950 busk4911 wins 950 ( won +400 ) Hero lost -4002 nitty or a good fold? Pretty much readless against this guy.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBOMGotDatAss1500 BTNHero1500 Effective Stacks: 30bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BTNHero raises to 100, OMGotDatAss calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) OMGotDatAss checks, Hero bets 75, OMGotDatAss raises to 250, Hero calls 175 Turn (700, 2 players) OMGotDatAss bets 333, Hero foldsFinal Pot: 1033 OMGotDatAss wins 1033 ( won +350 ) Hero lost -350Snap fold right? Seemed to be a thinking reg but not over aggresive or anything.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBmaggss41850 BTNHero1150 Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BTNHero raises to 100, maggss4 calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) maggss4 checks, Hero bets 75, maggss4 calls 75 Turn (350, 2 players) maggss4 checks, Hero bets 175, maggss4 calls 175 River (700, 2 players) maggss4 checks, Hero bets 800, maggss4 foldsFinal Pot: 1500Hero wins 1500 ( won +350 ) maggss4 lost -350 Do you like the 3 barrel and setting up the stack sizes so I'm betting a bit over pot on the river? Pretty early on playing this guy. Fyi all the unmarked HH above are $28's.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNPWB1112750 BBHero2250 Effective Stacks: 15bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BBPWB1112 raises to 150, Hero calls 100 Flop (300, 2 players) Hero checks, PWB1112 bets 200, Hero goes all-in 2100, PWB1112 calls 400 Turn (3000, 2 players, 1 all-in)River (3000, 2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: 3000 PWB1112 shows Hero shows Hero wins 3000 ( won +750 ) PWB1112 lost -750Same guy as above. I don't think I'm ahead enough of his 3x range to shove (one of the first times he's done it) but folding feels bad.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNHero1500 BBakfqhfh1500 Effective Stacks: 30bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BTNHero raises to 100, akfqhfh calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) akfqhfh checks, Hero bets 75, akfqhfh raises to 200, Hero calls 125 Turn (600, 2 players) akfqhfh checks, Hero checks River (600, 2 players) akfqhfh bets 400, Hero calls 400 Final Pot: 1400 Hero shows akfqhfh shows Hero wins 1400 ( won +700 ) akfqhfh lost -700Over 100 hands had him calling 56% outa the BB, 3B 15%, XC flop 29%, and XR flop 57% (lol). I try to not make hero calls all that often anymore but do you like it given my reads?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNCBis71171725 BBHero1275 Effective Stacks: 26bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BBCBis7117 raises to 100, Hero raises to 225, CBis7117 calls 125 Flop (450, 2 players) Hero bets 190, CBis7117 calls 190 Turn (830, 2 players) Hero bets 860, CBis7117 foldsFinal Pot: 1690Hero wins 1690 ( won +415 )CBis7117 lost -415 Been messing around with my sizings a bit but I think most of his flatting range on that flop texture is spade draws (most good aces rs pre as well as most pocket pairs) so I kinda felt like I was almost value shoving lol.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNPWB11121025 BBHero1975 Effective Stacks: 10bb Blinds 50/100 Pre-Flop (150, 2 players)Hero is BB PWB1112 calls 50, Hero goes all-in 1975, PWB1112 foldsFinal Pot: 2075 Hero wins 2075 ( won +100 ) PWB1112 lost -100Mers talked about how he didn't really like the go and go in my video with hands like this. I can understand why he thinks QJ/K10 type hands are better to do it with. I just think against a habitual limper like the villan above we loose a lot of value by not 4x/get it in on any flop.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1475 BTNEesti19911525 Effective Stacks: 30bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BBEesti1991 raises to 100, Hero calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) Hero checks, Eesti1991 bets 100, Hero raises to 225, Eesti1991 calls 125 Turn (650, 2 players) Hero checks, Eesti1991 checks River (650, 2 players) Hero checks, Eesti1991 bets 325, Hero foldsFinal Pot: 975Eesti1991 wins 975 ( won +325 ) Hero lost -325 Over 300 hands this guy raised 67% and CB 64%. I hand't CR him in a while so I felt like the smaller sizing would get more respect. I was planning to double barrel turn/maybe tripple barrel depending on river. I think the J was a pretty bad card to do it on so I just shut down instead of spewing like I usually do ;]
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBEesti19911175 BTNHero1825 Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BTNHero raises to 100, Eesti1991 calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) Eesti1991 checks, Hero bets 100, Eesti1991 calls 100 Turn (400, 2 players) Eesti1991 checks, Hero checks River (400, 2 players) Eesti1991 checks, Hero checks Final Pot: 400 Eesti1991 shows Hero shows Eesti1991 wins 400 ( won +200 ) Hero lost -200I was really torn between betting river for 250 or checking back. My thought process is we have good showdown value vs missed flush draws so were almost value owning ourselves by betting.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNakfqhfh1600 BBHero1400 Effective Stacks: 28bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BBakfqhfh raises to 100, Hero calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) Hero checks, akfqhfh bets 50, Hero raises to 175, akfqhfh raises to 300, Hero calls 125 Turn (800, 2 players) Hero checks, akfqhfh bets 533, Hero foldsFinal Pot: 1333 akfqhfh wins 1333 ( won +400 ) Hero lost -400This was against the CR monkey I called down with A8s about 5 hands above. I would felt fine getting it in against an over shove against my CR but min/bet then small cr vs my cr sends of warning bells to me. I really just wanted to fold the flop. Are you okay with calling and then folding to a turn bet or if my read is that he's super strong is it better to just fold to the small 4-bet?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1475 BTNallhail291525 Effective Stacks: 30bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BBallhail29 raises to 100, Hero calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) Hero checks, allhail29 bets 100, Hero calls 100 Turn (400, 2 players) Hero checks, allhail29 bets 200, Hero calls 200 River (800, 2 players) Hero checks, allhail29 bets 250, Hero calls 250 Final Pot: 1300Hero shows allhail29 shows allhail29 wins 1300 ( won +650 ) Hero lost -650 Over 300 hands I had him opening 59%, CB 63%, and 2 barrel 57% of the time. Are flop and turn okay? I think I do pretty badly against these types of river value sized bets and should fold against them in general.
73: if you think he's going to stab a lot when checked to, i like a check/shove a lot. leading makes for some wierd turn situations though - as played, i def think u need to continue the turn considering that JX is just a small part of his range...so many hands you get turn or river folds from. and you still have equity vs JX! so i def think continue turn and jam a lot of rivers.78s: ya your line is fine. i'd lead the turn kind of small like 40% for thin value/protect equity/protect from checking and facing a huge turn bet - so kind of a blockbet. reevaluate river.Q6o: this made me lolT8o: your range looks good. just remember that when villain risks more, we can correctly fold more. AT: i love it. it's so +ev to just be a huge fkn nit in this spot (when facing a turn check/mr). ive basically never seen air here, or anything that AT is ahead of :)A4: ehhh that seems wayyy too nitty to me. it's not too hard to imagine someone c/r bluffing this flop and continuing this turn (it's a scarecard to your QX, plus people just get lost in big pots when they are the aggressor). i would need some real reads to start folding hands like this - i dont think a c/r + turn barrel is anywhear close to as strong on average as the c/mr over a 2 barrel line is.94o: i think 94o is prob a bit too wide to be opening readless at 23 stx. i'd be opening about 80-85% readless here. postflop looks good, nice. i don't really see the river as the best card to 3 barrel, but it's good enough.KJ: ya i like it, niceKT: his 3x range would have to be like top 25-30% of hands for this to be a flat, something like that. when he risks t150, if you have any fe or are ahead of any of his 3x/calling range (maybe he doesnt fold JT type stuff) then jamming is better than flatting. i would need some pretty accurate reads about how nitty his 3x'ing range is to flat here though. A8: i dont see c/r + check + pot bet as a bluff very often at all. river hits his range a bit too so i'm pretty nervous about it. postflop really isn't the issue though.polarize your cbet range vs players that c/r you really light - cbet hands that face a c/r well, and hands that fold to a c/r easily. check back showdown value that can't face a c/r well, but can check back and reevaluate vs turn/river leads a lot better.i think given how much your opponent has c/r you - and the fact that with 8 you have a blocker to some of the draws he would be c/r. cbet/3bet is probably your best option. i'd prefer that or checking back. highlighted this bc i think it's the only real big leak i've seen in this so focus on this primarily.KJ: interesting board textureyou can go even smaller with your underbetting on the flop, and it will setup better turn stacks for you. i'd cbet about 25% pot here, t120ish. i expect pretty much the exact same range to continue, anddd it encourages more of his draws to just flat which is good for us, especially when we are going to be barreling a lot of dry turns.this would setup stacks of about t950 with a pot of about 670, then i'd just jam the turn. i was considering small betting turn and jamming rivers, but i think just protecting equity on turn is best....unlikely he has any AX in his range, or 4X. if he has a flopped flush, well we are getting stacked no matter what we do since we would be 3 barrel jamming non-spade rivers. also i'm worried that a small turn bet will get induce a wide range/draws to jam over us. so protect equity and just jam turn - i expect to get more than enough folds.AQ: ya, i can understand not wanting to raise to t300 or something. but even just making it t450 has to be better than jamming i'd think, any time we get such a weak range to limp call at stacks where there is basically no postflop playability tha thas to be a pretty good thing. 93o: standard98s: i really don't like this. first off, villain it would make sense for villain to be pretty skeptical of a c/r on a board where we don't rep a ton (that's why there is so much value of c/r AX here). second, it's just not the optimal way to play our hand. it has good equity to c/c, we don't want to face a flop 3b and play for stacks (and we really dont want to c/r-fold!). really standard c/r for me. i really don't think these AQX AJX board are good to c/r on vs most people, even players who cbet wide. you don't rep a lot with a c/r, but you do rep a lot with a c/c. they arent boards that players barrel very wide on, since your percevied range is kind of faceup on the flop and the board texture isnt going to change a lot. so if i want to be active on a board like this, it's typically going to be floating something like backdoor flushdarw/straight draw type stuff. you just rep a ton more, and can credibly lead rivers for fake-value after check/check turns.QT: you just don't rep a lot, so i see you getting hero'd a ton. most players just hate folding to cbet/check/bet lines (this can make it a good bluff ine vs a thinking player then). don't see you folding out anythng you beat really (even if he does fold AX, it's only a part of his range...still have to get enough folds from his full range etc)T4: as played, i like it. definitely wouldnt be cbetting this board though, esp vs someone who floats a lot. just soooooo many hand combos that will continue on this board vs a cbet and make sense for an oop calling range (a ton even for someone who doesnt float). so as my standard, i'd be checking back this flop and shutting down a lot - delay cbetting K/A/diamond turns since we rep them well.T8: meh, consdering you saw him c/r bluff and then check the turn - i'd expect him to check back the turn with his bluffs/semibluffs here as well - sucks to give him 2 streets free equity when we flat. considering how out of line is, i'd just ship the flop and let him him be an idiot. T8: flop and turn are good. river is tough bc u only need to be good like 18%. if villain keeps showing down this thin value stuff and nothing else with that size, you can start making these folds - OR start check/shoving if you think you have enough fe.
polarize your cbet range vs players that c/r you really light - cbet hands that face a c/r well, and hands that fold to a c/r easily. check back showdown value that can't face a c/r well, but can check back and reevaluate vs turn/river leads a lot better.i think given how much your opponent has c/r you - and the fact that with 8 you have a blocker to some of the draws he would be c/r. cbet/3bet is probably your best option. i'd prefer that or checking back. highlighted this bc i think it's the only real big leak i've seen in this so focus on this primarily.Thank you highlighting this and I appreciate all the other analysis :]
How'd it feel to dominate me in those $28 super turbos :] ?haha, had no idea that was you! i was working on setting up a new HUD for PT3. how many did we play? i was only halfway paying attention to games
Haha ohhh okay I got ya. We only played a couple of games thankfully (Which you went 2-0 against me in ;] ) Speaking of software how's MergeKeys been working out for you?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNAKJewellz71600 BBHero1400 Effective Stacks: 28bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BBAKJewellz7 raises to 150, Hero raises to 375, AKJewellz7 calls 225 Flop (750, 2 players) Hero bets 275, AKJewellz7 calls 275 Turn (1300, 2 players) Hero checks, AKJewellz7 bets 950, Hero calls 750 River (3000, 2 players)Final Pot: 3000 AKJewellz7 shows Hero shows Hero wins 2800 ( won +1400 ) AKJewellz7 lost -1400Such a scary looking turn card but I'm still doing okay against his range right? I feel like he's shoving most flush draws on the flop and strong aces are shoving pf.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1575 BTNAKJewellz71425 Effective Stacks: 29bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players)Hero is BB AKJewellz7 calls 25, Hero checks Flop (100, 2 players) Hero checks, AKJewellz7 checks Turn (100, 2 players) Hero bets 50, AKJewellz7 calls 50 River (200, 2 players) Hero bets 125, AKJewellz7 calls 125 Final Pot: 450 Hero shows AKJewellz7 shows AKJewellz7 wins 450 ( won +225 ) Hero lost -225Good spot for this readless? Once I get called down here are you still betting turn/good rivers here in the future? I guess since he's limping a hand like 34o I should be raising a wide range against his limps. What kinds of hands are you raising and what kind of hands are you checking back?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNjstncredible11450 BBHero1550 Effective Stacks: 29bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB jstncredible1 raises to 100, Hero raises to 300 This guy is an interesting player. He's doesn't seem bad at playing 20-30bb stacks (seem to open about 60 % of hands) but min raises something like 80% of hands from 7bb-15bb. He'll do stuff like min raise call k2o for 12x bb, or min r call for 12x bb with 45s. So not a horrible player but not a good one either. Do you think it's worth it to sit him?H: 2,028 VP: 76.9 PFR: 55.5 3B: 11.8He doesn't seem to like to get it in early with marginal hands and folds to my 25-30 bb re shoves a lot. I think vs this player type it might be more profitable to 3x his min raises with the top and bottom of my range(something like AJ+ 99+ and then 46s 610o type hands), and then just raise to 250 with my my K9s, Q10s+, K10+ type hands that play really well against his opening/ 3b calling range but that I can still get away from if he 4 bets me all in.I'm been open shoving 22-88 vs his min raising range but I'm not sure if I should be doing something different with 77-88.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBTebowRulz1375 BTNHero1625 Effective Stacks: 28bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 100, TebowRulz goes all-in 1375, Hero calls 1275One of the first hands in the gameStandard call? If this is a call then how loose are you calling here? I think it's something like 55+, KQs, A9, A7s.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNHero2175 BBlatixpoker825 Effective Stacks: 17bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero goes all-in 2175, latixpoker calls 775Whats your BB # cut off for shoving a weak ace like this? It feels wrong for me to open shove this deep. Doing it at like 14 or 15 bb makes sense to me but I think we can manuever enough post flop at 17-18 BB.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNmansolillo9151733 BBHero1267 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB mansolillo915 calls 25, Hero goes all-in 1267, mansolillo915 calls 1217H: 30 PFR: 20 VP: 84 My read when I made this play was that this guy was a weak limper. Okay with the open shove here or would a raise to 175 be better? I think open shove because it's really tough to play oop with a weak ace and we sometimes get spaz calls from donks with hands like 45s.If I didn't know that he was such a huge limper I'd be more in favor of the raise to 175 and playing it post flop.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1250 BTNILoveTswizzle1750 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB ILoveTswizzle raises to 100, Hero calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) Hero bets 100, ILoveTswizzle raises to 300, Hero calls 200 Turn (800, 2 players) Hero bets 850H: 146 PFR:41 VP:66I think the call and flop lead are the best play. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to call his raise on the flop or just fold. At the same time I'm getting 3-1 on my money with 2 over cards and a inside straight draw. When the turn hits I have to shove to protect my hand right?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBJackinOff1225 BTNHero1775 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 100, JackinOff raises to 250, Hero?H: 21 PFR: 48 VP:71 3B: 42.9Whats the weakest that your willing to call against a player like this?What about against someone with a more tame 3B percentage of about 15% or so?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNILoveTswizzle1775 BBHero1225 Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB ILoveTswizzle raises to 100, Hero raises to 250, ILoveTswizzle calls 150 Flop (500, 2 players) Hero bets 975Perfect example of me being lazy while playing. Better to just Cbet 200-250/fold to a shove right? If he smooth calls are you okay with shoving blank turns?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNHero1450 BBGoodHandKid171550 Effective Stacks: 29bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 100, GoodHandKid17 calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) GoodHandKid17 checks, Hero bets 100, GoodHandKid17 raises to 300, Hero calls 200 Turn (800, 2 players) GoodHandKid17 bets 400, Hero calls 400 River (1600, 2 players) GoodHandKid17 checks, Hero checks H: 80 PFR: 29 VP:66I think smooth calling is best with my hand. I don't see the avg player geting it in with mid pr/a straight draw and most will continue to barrel they're air on the turn and river. I don't think the Queen changes anything so I call again.On the river I think I'd be folding to a shove but once he checks I wanna make a thin value bet of about 200 chips to get value from his 5's/weaker jacks. I could also be value owning myself against his stronger jacks/weak 2 pr hands that got scared 67 hit.
86o: ya if i think he's capable and have a very aggro dynamic (and he can reasonably believe that you won't make huge hero calls here) then i'm going to call as well. fwiw if you have a aggro flop c/r dynamic, this is probably a good hand to checkback as it plays well vs turn/river leads but not so much vs a equity-heavy c/r range.KQ: looks fine to me, unless you think he won't flat much and will just jam over a lead a lot (with a wider range than eh will call an overbet shove with). you do better vs as wide a range as possible, but ya avoiding wierd turn spots where you have to give up is prob v good.
AQ: minraising 60% at 20-30 and then widening to 80% at <15 seems pretty ass-backwards to me against the average player! def worth sitting him. that is my default 3betting sizing strategy fwiw. i think it works best vs the average player. i'm def 3bet/calling 77/88 vs this type and not overbet shoving. A9: i agree. good range.A4: i would openjam A2-A7 always <15 deep. 16-20bb stacks if i am playing someone who flats a lot oop and is really active or stationy postflop, i would just openjam A2-A7 there too. this type player usually calls worse when we jam this deep anywasy lol - KQ/J9s type stuff. it's almost def the best expectation for these hands vs this type player.A5: if i'm raising A5s over a limp its going to be a jam or i'm just not doing it. like you said, has pretty bad expectation postflop vs a limp/calling range. i don't want to discourage people from limping, so i don't want to beat my edge to death by raising lots of limps and discouraging my opponent from limping a wide/weak range. i'd just raise 2.75-4xbb with different types of hands - some good stuff like A9+ 77+ KQ/KJ etc, then some bluffs as well since you probably have a good amount of fold equity. if you raise that type range you will only be raising limps with like 20% of total hands, so you won't be inflating your frequency to much and discouraging his limps. remember how +ev it is for us when our opponents limps a wide range - we get free equity to play postflop with a ton of hands that we would otherwise fold to a raise. we do not want to lose that edge usually.in a coffeeshop right now, 2 super hot girls in here. i hope that made sense. i'm distracted.T8: it's a wierd stack size to bet/call since we have to check/fold lots of turns with a bunch committed. it's also a wierd board texture for our hand vs a typical raising range over a donkbet here - so many flush draw, combo draw, T9, overpair combos that we are doing pretty poor against. so i don't think either is that great. check/call is better imo. if you know villain raises your donkbets wide, bet/3betting will def be best. can't see bet/calling being good very often at all.if i'm donking here it's with hands that bet/3bet or bet/fold really easily basically. just too many combos villain can have that continue well.Q7s: 42% is damn wide. i would tighten pfr a bit to 70%ish. 4bet jamming 22-JJ, AX, KT+ and some weak KXs. flatting T8o+ 87s+ basically. that is a ton of hand combos we are continuing with, so we aren't folding too very many 3bets - maybe only 40% of the time we fold.KQ: just check/fold the flop unless you know he calls 3bets pretty wide. this flop connects to a 3bet calling range pretty damn hard. can't imagine a lot of fe here.J7: with only 650 behind after his turn bet, i'm just jamming over the turn lead to protect equity. good questions
"in a coffeeshop right now, 2 super hot girls in here. i hope that made sense. i'm distracted."I would play it the same way :] Got some random questions for you. 1. I was playing that bikembrady guy yesterday and we chatted a bit. I told him that I had gotten coaching from you and I was in fasttrack. He said he had been coached but wouldn't say by who because he didn't want to "out" his coach. I have no idea about hu coaching edict so if I wasn't supposed to say that you had been helping me I apologize. 2. I've been playing some regs that love to talk crap while playing. Do you think it's +ev to just mute them or should I keep the chat open in case they want to ever set up some sort of lobby sharing system? 3. I feel comfortable playing 6 tables tiled as of right now while probably playing my B game. I know that I can play my A game when I'm just 3-4 tabling, but cutting my volume by almost 40-50% would really suck. What do you think I should do? 4. I've been reading everyone's threads like crazy, watching videos, posting hands, and using PPT a lot. I think my game has gotten so much better than it was and my recent results reflect that. Yet for the love of god, I can't get my damn red line to go up on HM. I know it's stupid to be obsessed with $EV results but I'm worried that I'm just on a heater.I've seen you playing the $254 Super Turbo's, any way that you could post your HM graph of them with your redline? 5. I'm interested in getting some 1 on 1 coaching with you. Lemme know how we should go about setting it up :]
1) LOL at not wanting out his coach. I've heard of that at like nosebleed cash, but not low-mid stake husngs lol. I don't care at all.2) If they are talking crap while playing, they are almost certainly not focused on adjusting and playing well - and probably are very susceptible to tilting. Sounds +ev to me! Don't worry about lobby sharing systems. Just play regs occasionally, it will make you a better player long term even though you might sacrifice some short term ROI. Also, most of these regs that talk a big game about sitting your life and what not - they are saying it because they are insecure and scared...they will quit you pretty quick probably.3) You probably expend more mental energy 6 tabling than you do 3-4 tabling. Shouldn't this mean that you would be able to play longer sessions on 3-4 tables? That should make up for some of the lost volume. 4) I played on 3 different computers over the past few months, so only have a max 250 game sample size on this computer. I'll post it after 1k games or so - a month or 2 from now. I saw a thread in the 2p2 husng forum where people were posting their hypers graphs recently - check that out.Could you go 1k games without looking at your HEM graph? Just focus on good decisions and see what happens. There is so much red line variance in hypers, it really takes quite a while to even out. 5) email me at gtillerhokie@gmail.com and we will talk more about 1-on-1. looking forward to it.
3) Hmmm good point about expending more mental energy. One thing that has worked for me is to start off playing 4 tables and if I'm feeling fresh/motivated that day get up to 6 in my session. If I'm feeling more tired/unfocused then stay at 4 so that I don't go into autopilot mode.I've been having trouble getting myself to play longer than one hour sessions. I'm guessing I should just try to incrementally do it. Like start at 1 hour, then next time I play do an hour and 5 mins, etc etc.4) I've read the thread on there a lot actually. It definitely has some good gems on information and luck adjusted graphs.I've been trying to do a microcosm of your idea. My problem was that I constantly had been checking my results/redline while I played (usually every 20 minutes or so). My goal was to only look at the end of the day when I'm done playing. I even told my gf to bitch at me if she saw me looking at my redline while in a session :] My only worry about not looking after 1K game is that I still have a lot of leaks to fix. I've found that I'll play well for a while but I fall back into old habits easily. I think looking at my redline/results each day makes me study my game more and expose my weaknesses. The trade off is that even only looking at the daily swings can be tough to mentally handle. 5)Just sent it.
3) yep. just increase and find the point where you start stuggling and push yourself a little past it. analyze your performance during the period you struggle -- what did you do worse? what did you still do well? this usually gives you a pretty good idea of your C game. the things you still do well when on your C game is usually the things that you have fully mastered.4) ya i can understand not wanting to wait 1k games to look. i think maybe every 200 games would be a better idea though. just remember that while your redline might not be great the past few thousand games or whatever - if you improve your game a lot realy fast in this forum, you could easily go through some red line variance before you begin to see any real improvement. also, it takes a while to start implementing all of the new things you are learning consistently (when you are on your B-/C game, a lot of these new things you are learning you will be failing at pretty hard because you haven't fully mastered them yet). this is the essence of the learning process - i'd recommend Jared Tendler's 'The Mental Game of Poker' for more on this idea.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNHero2075 BBjonnygotta925 Effective Stacks: 9bb Blinds 50/100 Pre-Flop (150, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero?If our opponent has a reshoving range of aprox any ace, any pair, k6s+, k8o+ Q10s, QJ and flats with somethink like 40% of the rest of his hands(j10S,Q9o all the way down to 94s 63s type stuff) whats our best play here?I think raise calling is optimal vs a wide 3-better (shoving j7s type hand etc) but against someone who loves to flat with such a wide range I think a open jam is better.
Kind of an out of the box play here, but what are your thoughts on raising to 350 ^^, calling any re raise all in, and getting it in on any flop?I've messed around with it in the past and I've had people do some wierd stuff. Like smooth call with A2o vs a 3.5x raise 9 bb deep, they hit their ace and we get it in. The thing is if they're doing in the long run, then they're only hitting a peice of the flop 35ish% of the time which means I get 1/3 of their stack when they check fold. This play could easily be exploited by any who realizes what I'm doing but it seems like it could be extremely profitable against the right type of donk.
If our opponent has a reshoving range of aprox any ace, any pair, k6s+, k8o+ Q10s, QJ and flats with somethink like 40% of the rest of his hands(j10S,Q9o all the way down to 94s 63s type stuff) whats our best play here?I think raise calling is optimal vs a wide 3-better (shoving j7s type hand etc) but against someone who loves to flat with such a wide range I think a open jam is better.well villain is never folding any of those hands to an openshove anyways, and we are doing alright vs that range given that we only need like 38% equity once we minraise. most of the range that villain is flatting is folding to a jam though. if we can get value from a range we do so well against, that seems pretty good to me (as long as we aren't giving free equity i.e. limping). just minraise and stack off super light when flatted (not 100% obvvv - god people over-do that). postflop will be high variance for us, but look at how f'ing hard villain is spewing - there is no way we have a bigger edge by just jamming pre and getting a little EV bc he might fold too much.i think a lot of players are wary of these short effective stack high variance situations bc they don't like stacking off light, but when you actually consider how the winrate you have in 9bb poker shovefests - that's probably even higher variance a lot of times...it just doesn't feel like it bc "it's standard".it's a rare situation obv, and i'd like some specific reads for it. also, K9, QJ type hands are going to be way better for this than an A8 - since villains range realizes equity so easily vs A8.theory games are fun.
Kind of an out of the box play here, but what are your thoughts on raising to 350 ^^, calling any re raise all in, and getting it in on any flop?I've messed around with it in the past and I've had people do some wierd stuff. Like smooth call with A2o vs a 3.5x raise 9 bb deep, they hit their ace and we get it in. The thing is if they're doing in the long run, then they're only hitting a peice of the flop 35ish% of the time which means I get 1/3 of their stack when they check fold. This play could easily be exploited by any who realizes what I'm doing but it seems like it could be extremely profitable against the right type of donk.well if you are referring to being against the same villain i just responded about, minraising is going to be way better probably as i think that player is going to nit up a bit more vs t350 bc it looks so f'ing ridiculous lol. i like the creativity though, and i think you are on the right track...basically i just think the opponents you are referring to are the wrong one bc people respect the committing sizing more and nit up more which isn't really what we are trying to accomplish with a hand like K9sconsider this scenario:you are 6.5 bb deep vs a thinking player who is calling a wide range (probably close to NASH) - you have been playing shove/fold and you know he knows this is your standard. you also know that this villain is almost definitely not the type to ever flat a minraise at such short stacks (if he's not the type to flat much at 11stx, there is like no way he is flatting 6.5). take a hand that is just slightly outside NASH and minraise/call. so J4o for example, i think that's a shove at 6.1bb stacks (dont have NASH chart on me). it's likely the first time you do this, or if done very rarely, it will get a lot of respect from this type opponent. maybe he folds out a bunch of hands that would otherwise have folded to a jam. maybe he only folds out like 15% of hands that would have otherwise folded to a jam - you are exploiting him quite a bit by getting some extra folds at such short stacks. when you put 2bb in the pot and get jammed on, you are committed to call anyways so its effectively the same thing as an openshove except you created more fold equity.i think most thinking villains fall into the category of nitting up A TON when faced with a rare minraise from another thinking player at these stacks.
Theory games: I likeeeee it. Really good explanation of why it's way more +ev to to min raise/play postflop alot against these types rather than just shove it. I think I've been results oriented lately and it's caused me to pass up on the more optimal play at times. I'm glad I caught it now instead of a month from now :] Out of the box: Haha thanks, let me throw this one at you. If we have a hand like J2S and were 14x deep against the type of player that I described do u maybe like the 3-3.5x raise?My thinking is that if he shoves we not committed, he's going to view our raise as an extremely strong range, our hand doesn't play well postflop, and even if we do get called we can make a scary small cbet on a lot of boards that will get us a fold. If my understanding is correct, we minraise instead of 2.5x 14 bb deep because we think that it will accomplish the same thing but risk less of our stack. If that's the case and we come to the conclusion that were getting flatted/raised by 70% of hands vs a 2x, 60% of hands vs a 2.5x, but vs a 3.5x only about 30ish % of hands, If that the case then making that raise is good in a vacuum.Obviously this is extremely player dependent and wouldn't be a play used on a consistent basis. 6.5x BB thinking: I'm pretty sure we talked about this really quickly at the end our coaching session. I liked the idea then and I still like it now :] Thanks for reminding me though, I had completely forgot about integrating it into my game. Now that I think about it, it seems like my above idea on the 14x BB theory is almost a magnified version of your theory. Exploiting what someone thinks about a certain raise at a specific stack size.
cross-posting the J2s question to Mers-only. not really satisfied with my answer, mainly bc i don't undersatnd the math behind the risk/reward from a big small blind raise. i just have a strong intuitive mathematical understanding for a lot of stuff, wierd stuff like this throws me off sometimes.
I can respect that. I'm still curious what your thoughts are even if your not sure that your correct :]
ya i was thinking similar to what Mers said - basically that it can work if it effects villain's ranges properly (he nits up too much, and doesnt flat much). i think it requires way too specific of reads though, but obv you can make a lot of stuff work with really specific reads. it's def not a play i'd make based off assumptions or anything though.minraise/calling J4o at 6.5bb stacks like i was talking about is different though imo - i think you can much easier make the assumption that you most regs are never flatting at 6.5bb stacks against a minraise, and that it's unlikely most of them will still 3bet shove the same range that would have called an openshove (NASH calling range). so i think this is a better play bc it requires less specific reads (it can't ever be that bad).
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNgreatest151725 BBHero1275 Effective Stacks: 26bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB greatest15 raises to 100, Hero calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) Hero bets 100, greatest15 calls 100 Turn (400, 2 players) Hero bets 200, greatest15 calls 200 River (800, 2 players) Hero checks, greatest15 bets 1325, Hero folds Final Pot: 2125 greatest15 wins 2125 ( won +400 ) Hero lost -400You like? I think B/F flop is better than C/C readless. Betting turn for value and then hero gets sad and C/F's the ugly river.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNgreatest152150 BBHero850 Effective Stacks: 17bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB greatest15 calls 25, Hero raises to 200, greatest15 folds Final Pot: 250 Hero wins 250 ( won +50 ) greatest15 lost -50 What sizing do you like here and why? I think 150 will get a lot more calls vs 200 but were OOP which sucks for our hand and stack size imo.
K9: eh i understand your thought process with the K9 donk, but i really dont think the average player cbets this board that wide - or when they do cbet they dont barrel that wide. so i'm really not that worried about c/c-reevaluating too much. people or just so fit or fold when checked to on these boards. i think you get yourself in a lot more awkward spots when you lead here, mainly bc of the general spazziness of the average player vs donkbets on wet boards - your hand doesnt stand up very well vs that.so basically i like the creative thought process, but i think you are just overestimating how difficult to play this hand as a c/c really isAQ: t175-200 is fine for the reasons you mentioned. i kind of prefer t175 bc i feel that t200 just gets a ton of folds and is probably just better as a pure bluff really (unless ur playing someone who will limp/call wide obv) i'd raise to t-130ish with my JT-KQ/AA-JJ type stuff tho as it fairs better vs a wide limp/calling range.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNbpmst21750 BBHero1250 Effective Stacks: 13bb Blinds 50/100 Pre-Flop (150, 2 players) Hero is BB bpmst2 calls 50, Hero checks Flop (200, 2 players) Hero bets 100, bpmst2 calls 100 Turn (400, 2 players) Hero checks, bpmst2 bets 200, Hero folds Final Pot: 600 bpmst2 wins 600 ( won +200 ) Hero lost -200This guy had a 70% raise percentage but barely ever limped over 70 hands. I think it's close between check raising AI and leading. If I think he's going to be stabbing a good % of the time then CR is better but if I think the opposite then leading is good?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNmk308061000 BBHero2000 Effective Stacks: 20bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB mk30806 raises to 150, Hero calls 100 Flop (300, 2 players) Hero checks, mk30806 checks Turn (300, 2 players) Hero checks Had him raising 45% and limping 15% over 300 hands. PF call is okay right? Hadn't seen him 3x much so far. Do you like to lead turn or C/C one street then reevaluate depending on river?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBmk308061150 BTNHero1850 Effective Stacks: 12bb Blinds 50/100 Pre-Flop (150, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 200, mk30806 calls 100 Flop (400, 2 players) mk30806 checks, Hero checks Turn (400, 2 players) mk30806 bets 100, Hero calls 100 River (600, 2 players) mk30806 checks, Hero checks Final Pot: 600 mk30806 shows Hero shows mk30806 wins 600 ( won +300 ) Hero lost -300Started looking over entire games instead of specific spots and found this. Obviously a standard Cb 150/fold but I had to post it to remind myself to STOP randomly not cbetting after I had just lost the previous hand. That is all :]
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNmk308061590 BBHero1410 Effective Stacks: 14bb Blinds 50/100 Pre-Flop (150, 2 players) Hero is BB mk30806 raises to 225, Hero calls 125 Flop (450, 2 players) Hero checks, mk30806 bets 200, Hero folds Final Pot: 650 mk30806 wins 650 ( won +225 ) Hero lost -225 This guy isn't opening super wide so I think 810o might be a bit to loose to call here. Flatting range of something like J9o, J7s, Q8s, Q9o, J10o, Q10o, 78s, 89s, 109o, 97s look good or are you going wider?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBbusk49111400 BTNHero1600 Effective Stacks: 28bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 100, busk4911 calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) busk4911 checks, Hero bets 75, busk4911 raises to 150, Hero calls 75 Turn (500, 2 players) busk4911 checks, Hero bets 150, busk4911 raises to 300, Hero folds Final Pot: 950 busk4911 wins 950 ( won +400 ) Hero lost -4002 nitty or a good fold? Pretty much readless against this guy.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBOMGotDatAss1500 BTNHero1500 Effective Stacks: 30bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 100, OMGotDatAss calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) OMGotDatAss checks, Hero bets 75, OMGotDatAss raises to 250, Hero calls 175 Turn (700, 2 players) OMGotDatAss bets 333, Hero folds Final Pot: 1033 OMGotDatAss wins 1033 ( won +350 ) Hero lost -350Snap fold right? Seemed to be a thinking reg but not over aggresive or anything.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBmaggss41850 BTNHero1150 Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 100, maggss4 calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) maggss4 checks, Hero bets 75, maggss4 calls 75 Turn (350, 2 players) maggss4 checks, Hero bets 175, maggss4 calls 175 River (700, 2 players) maggss4 checks, Hero bets 800, maggss4 folds Final Pot: 1500 Hero wins 1500 ( won +350 ) maggss4 lost -350 Do you like the 3 barrel and setting up the stack sizes so I'm betting a bit over pot on the river? Pretty early on playing this guy. Fyi all the unmarked HH above are $28's.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBPWB11121450 BTNHero1550 Effective Stacks: 29bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 100, PWB1112 calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) PWB1112 checks, Hero bets 200, PWB1112 calls 200 Turn (600, 2 players) PWB1112 checks, Hero bets 450, PWB1112 calls 450 River (1500, 2 players) PWB1112 checks, Hero bets 800, PWB1112 folds Final Pot: 2300 Hero wins 2300 ( won +750 ) PWB1112 lost -750The guy had pretty pasive stats and have check/called 56% of flops over 100 hands. You likey?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNPWB1112750 BBHero2250 Effective Stacks: 15bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB PWB1112 raises to 150, Hero calls 100 Flop (300, 2 players) Hero checks, PWB1112 bets 200, Hero goes all-in 2100, PWB1112 calls 400 Turn (3000, 2 players, 1 all-in) River (3000, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 3000 PWB1112 shows Hero shows Hero wins 3000 ( won +750 ) PWB1112 lost -750Same guy as above. I don't think I'm ahead enough of his 3x range to shove (one of the first times he's done it) but folding feels bad.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNHero1500 BBakfqhfh1500 Effective Stacks: 30bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 100, akfqhfh calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) akfqhfh checks, Hero bets 75, akfqhfh raises to 200, Hero calls 125 Turn (600, 2 players) akfqhfh checks, Hero checks River (600, 2 players) akfqhfh bets 400, Hero calls 400 Final Pot: 1400 Hero shows akfqhfh shows Hero wins 1400 ( won +700 ) akfqhfh lost -700Over 100 hands had him calling 56% outa the BB, 3B 15%, XC flop 29%, and XR flop 57% (lol). I try to not make hero calls all that often anymore but do you like it given my reads?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNCBis71171725 BBHero1275 Effective Stacks: 26bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB CBis7117 raises to 100, Hero raises to 225, CBis7117 calls 125 Flop (450, 2 players) Hero bets 190, CBis7117 calls 190 Turn (830, 2 players) Hero bets 860, CBis7117 folds Final Pot: 1690 Hero wins 1690 ( won +415 ) CBis7117 lost -415 Been messing around with my sizings a bit but I think most of his flatting range on that flop texture is spade draws (most good aces rs pre as well as most pocket pairs) so I kinda felt like I was almost value shoving lol.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNPWB11121025 BBHero1975 Effective Stacks: 10bb Blinds 50/100 Pre-Flop (150, 2 players) Hero is BB PWB1112 calls 50, Hero goes all-in 1975, PWB1112 folds Final Pot: 2075 Hero wins 2075 ( won +100 ) PWB1112 lost -100Mers talked about how he didn't really like the go and go in my video with hands like this. I can understand why he thinks QJ/K10 type hands are better to do it with. I just think against a habitual limper like the villan above we loose a lot of value by not 4x/get it in on any flop.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNPWB1112800 BBHero2200 Effective Stacks: 4bb Blinds 100/200 Pre-Flop (300, 2 players) Hero is BB PWB1112 calls 100, Hero checks Flop (400, 2 players) Hero bets 2000, PWB1112 calls 600 Turn (3000, 2 players) River (3000, 2 players) Final Pot: 3000 PWB1112 shows Hero shows PWB1112 wins 1600 ( won +800 ) Hero lost -800Standard when we're 4 BB deep?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1475 BTNEesti19911525 Effective Stacks: 30bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB Eesti1991 raises to 100, Hero calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) Hero checks, Eesti1991 bets 100, Hero raises to 225, Eesti1991 calls 125 Turn (650, 2 players) Hero checks, Eesti1991 checks River (650, 2 players) Hero checks, Eesti1991 bets 325, Hero folds Final Pot: 975 Eesti1991 wins 975 ( won +325 ) Hero lost -325 Over 300 hands this guy raised 67% and CB 64%. I hand't CR him in a while so I felt like the smaller sizing would get more respect. I was planning to double barrel turn/maybe tripple barrel depending on river. I think the J was a pretty bad card to do it on so I just shut down instead of spewing like I usually do ;]
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBEesti19911175 BTNHero1825 Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 100, Eesti1991 calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) Eesti1991 checks, Hero bets 100, Eesti1991 calls 100 Turn (400, 2 players) Eesti1991 checks, Hero checks River (400, 2 players) Eesti1991 checks, Hero checks Final Pot: 400 Eesti1991 shows Hero shows Eesti1991 wins 400 ( won +200 ) Hero lost -200I was really torn between betting river for 250 or checking back. My thought process is we have good showdown value vs missed flush draws so were almost value owning ourselves by betting.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNHero1375 BBEesti19911625 Effective Stacks: 14bb Blinds 50/100 Pre-Flop (150, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 200, Eesti1991 calls 100 Flop (400, 2 players) Eesti1991 checks, Hero bets 175, Eesti1991 calls 175 Turn (750, 2 players) Eesti1991 checks, Hero bets 225, Eesti1991 calls 225 River (1200, 2 players) Eesti1991 checks, Hero bets 775, Eesti1991 folds Final Pot: 1975 Hero wins 1975 ( won +600 ) Eesti1991 lost -600Good spot to tripple barrel against a floater because of the King turn right?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNakfqhfh1600 BBHero1400 Effective Stacks: 28bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB akfqhfh raises to 100, Hero calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) Hero checks, akfqhfh bets 50, Hero raises to 175, akfqhfh raises to 300, Hero calls 125 Turn (800, 2 players) Hero checks, akfqhfh bets 533, Hero folds Final Pot: 1333 akfqhfh wins 1333 ( won +400 ) Hero lost -400This was against the CR monkey I called down with A8s about 5 hands above. I would felt fine getting it in against an over shove against my CR but min/bet then small cr vs my cr sends of warning bells to me. I really just wanted to fold the flop. Are you okay with calling and then folding to a turn bet or if my read is that he's super strong is it better to just fold to the small 4-bet?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1475 BTNallhail291525 Effective Stacks: 30bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB allhail29 raises to 100, Hero calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) Hero checks, allhail29 bets 100, Hero calls 100 Turn (400, 2 players) Hero checks, allhail29 bets 200, Hero calls 200 River (800, 2 players) Hero checks, allhail29 bets 250, Hero calls 250 Final Pot: 1300 Hero shows allhail29 shows allhail29 wins 1300 ( won +650 ) Hero lost -650 Over 300 hands I had him opening 59%, CB 63%, and 2 barrel 57% of the time. Are flop and turn okay? I think I do pretty badly against these types of river value sized bets and should fold against them in general.
73: if you think he's going to stab a lot when checked to, i like a check/shove a lot. leading makes for some wierd turn situations though - as played, i def think u need to continue the turn considering that JX is just a small part of his range...so many hands you get turn or river folds from. and you still have equity vs JX! so i def think continue turn and jam a lot of rivers.78s: ya your line is fine. i'd lead the turn kind of small like 40% for thin value/protect equity/protect from checking and facing a huge turn bet - so kind of a blockbet. reevaluate river.Q6o: this made me lolT8o: your range looks good. just remember that when villain risks more, we can correctly fold more. AT: i love it. it's so +ev to just be a huge fkn nit in this spot (when facing a turn check/mr). ive basically never seen air here, or anything that AT is ahead of :)A4: ehhh that seems wayyy too nitty to me. it's not too hard to imagine someone c/r bluffing this flop and continuing this turn (it's a scarecard to your QX, plus people just get lost in big pots when they are the aggressor). i would need some real reads to start folding hands like this - i dont think a c/r + turn barrel is anywhear close to as strong on average as the c/mr over a 2 barrel line is.94o: i think 94o is prob a bit too wide to be opening readless at 23 stx. i'd be opening about 80-85% readless here. postflop looks good, nice. i don't really see the river as the best card to 3 barrel, but it's good enough.KJ: ya i like it, niceKT: his 3x range would have to be like top 25-30% of hands for this to be a flat, something like that. when he risks t150, if you have any fe or are ahead of any of his 3x/calling range (maybe he doesnt fold JT type stuff) then jamming is better than flatting. i would need some pretty accurate reads about how nitty his 3x'ing range is to flat here though. A8: i dont see c/r + check + pot bet as a bluff very often at all. river hits his range a bit too so i'm pretty nervous about it. postflop really isn't the issue though.polarize your cbet range vs players that c/r you really light - cbet hands that face a c/r well, and hands that fold to a c/r easily. check back showdown value that can't face a c/r well, but can check back and reevaluate vs turn/river leads a lot better.i think given how much your opponent has c/r you - and the fact that with 8 you have a blocker to some of the draws he would be c/r. cbet/3bet is probably your best option. i'd prefer that or checking back. highlighted this bc i think it's the only real big leak i've seen in this so focus on this primarily.KJ: interesting board textureyou can go even smaller with your underbetting on the flop, and it will setup better turn stacks for you. i'd cbet about 25% pot here, t120ish. i expect pretty much the exact same range to continue, anddd it encourages more of his draws to just flat which is good for us, especially when we are going to be barreling a lot of dry turns.this would setup stacks of about t950 with a pot of about 670, then i'd just jam the turn. i was considering small betting turn and jamming rivers, but i think just protecting equity on turn is best....unlikely he has any AX in his range, or 4X. if he has a flopped flush, well we are getting stacked no matter what we do since we would be 3 barrel jamming non-spade rivers. also i'm worried that a small turn bet will get induce a wide range/draws to jam over us. so protect equity and just jam turn - i expect to get more than enough folds.AQ: ya, i can understand not wanting to raise to t300 or something. but even just making it t450 has to be better than jamming i'd think, any time we get such a weak range to limp call at stacks where there is basically no postflop playability tha thas to be a pretty good thing. 93o: standard98s: i really don't like this. first off, villain it would make sense for villain to be pretty skeptical of a c/r on a board where we don't rep a ton (that's why there is so much value of c/r AX here). second, it's just not the optimal way to play our hand. it has good equity to c/c, we don't want to face a flop 3b and play for stacks (and we really dont want to c/r-fold!). really standard c/r for me. i really don't think these AQX AJX board are good to c/r on vs most people, even players who cbet wide. you don't rep a lot with a c/r, but you do rep a lot with a c/c. they arent boards that players barrel very wide on, since your percevied range is kind of faceup on the flop and the board texture isnt going to change a lot. so if i want to be active on a board like this, it's typically going to be floating something like backdoor flushdarw/straight draw type stuff. you just rep a ton more, and can credibly lead rivers for fake-value after check/check turns.QT: you just don't rep a lot, so i see you getting hero'd a ton. most players just hate folding to cbet/check/bet lines (this can make it a good bluff ine vs a thinking player then). don't see you folding out anythng you beat really (even if he does fold AX, it's only a part of his range...still have to get enough folds from his full range etc)T4: as played, i like it. definitely wouldnt be cbetting this board though, esp vs someone who floats a lot. just soooooo many hand combos that will continue on this board vs a cbet and make sense for an oop calling range (a ton even for someone who doesnt float). so as my standard, i'd be checking back this flop and shutting down a lot - delay cbetting K/A/diamond turns since we rep them well.T8: meh, consdering you saw him c/r bluff and then check the turn - i'd expect him to check back the turn with his bluffs/semibluffs here as well - sucks to give him 2 streets free equity when we flat. considering how out of line is, i'd just ship the flop and let him him be an idiot. T8: flop and turn are good. river is tough bc u only need to be good like 18%. if villain keeps showing down this thin value stuff and nothing else with that size, you can start making these folds - OR start check/shoving if you think you have enough fe.
polarize your cbet range vs players that c/r you really light - cbet hands that face a c/r well, and hands that fold to a c/r easily. check back showdown value that can't face a c/r well, but can check back and reevaluate vs turn/river leads a lot better. i think given how much your opponent has c/r you - and the fact that with 8 you have a blocker to some of the draws he would be c/r. cbet/3bet is probably your best option. i'd prefer that or checking back. highlighted this bc i think it's the only real big leak i've seen in this so focus on this primarily.Thank you highlighting this and I appreciate all the other analysis :]
How'd it feel to dominate me in those $28 super turbos :] ?
How'd it feel to dominate me in those $28 super turbos :] ?haha, had no idea that was you! i was working on setting up a new HUD for PT3. how many did we play? i was only halfway paying attention to games
Haha ohhh okay I got ya. We only played a couple of games thankfully (Which you went 2-0 against me in ;] ) Speaking of software how's MergeKeys been working out for you?
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNAKJewellz71600 BBHero1400 Effective Stacks: 28bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB AKJewellz7 raises to 150, Hero raises to 375, AKJewellz7 calls 225 Flop (750, 2 players) Hero bets 275, AKJewellz7 calls 275 Turn (1300, 2 players) Hero checks, AKJewellz7 bets 950, Hero calls 750 River (3000, 2 players) Final Pot: 3000 AKJewellz7 shows Hero shows Hero wins 2800 ( won +1400 ) AKJewellz7 lost -1400Such a scary looking turn card but I'm still doing okay against his range right? I feel like he's shoving most flush draws on the flop and strong aces are shoving pf.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1575 BTNAKJewellz71425 Effective Stacks: 29bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB AKJewellz7 calls 25, Hero checks Flop (100, 2 players) Hero checks, AKJewellz7 checks Turn (100, 2 players) Hero bets 50, AKJewellz7 calls 50 River (200, 2 players) Hero bets 125, AKJewellz7 calls 125 Final Pot: 450 Hero shows AKJewellz7 shows AKJewellz7 wins 450 ( won +225 ) Hero lost -225Good spot for this readless? Once I get called down here are you still betting turn/good rivers here in the future? I guess since he's limping a hand like 34o I should be raising a wide range against his limps. What kinds of hands are you raising and what kind of hands are you checking back?
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