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Questionable Hands from my Last Sng

This is my first time posting, not sure if I should put all these hands in separate posts but I didn't want to swarm the forum.  These are all hands in my review I'm not sure about.

 

So this is an 11 turbo and my opponent is a losing player.

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PokerStars Game #28524932162: Tournament #166022174, $11.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2009/05/23 7:05:20 PT [2009/05/23 10:05:20 ET]
Table '166022174 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: joep888 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: RPatterson (1500 in chips)
joep888: posts small blind 10
RPatterson: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RPatterson [9h Jh]
joep888: raises 40 to 60
RPatterson: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [6c Ah Ac]
RPatterson: checks
joep888: bets 100
RPatterson: folds
Uncalled bet (100) returned to joep888
joep888 collected 120 from pot
joep888: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 120 | Rake 0
Board [6c Ah Ac]
Seat 1: joep888 (button) (small blind) collected (120)
Seat 2: RPatterson (big blind) folded on the Flop
 

This was the 3rd hand.  I figured J9s had enough value to be worth a call but didn't want to re-raise this early with no reads.  I felt like folding to his c-bet everytime I don't hit might not be a profitable line for this hand.  Is there a better way to go about this?

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PokerStars Game #28524975192: Tournament #166022174, $11.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2009/05/23 7:06:57 PT [2009/05/23 10:06:57 ET]
Table '166022174 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: joep888 (1640 in chips)
Seat 2: RPatterson (1360 in chips)
joep888: posts small blind 10
RPatterson: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RPatterson [As 6s]
joep888: raises 40 to 60
RPatterson: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [3c 2c 6c]
RPatterson: checks
joep888: bets 120
RPatterson: raises 300 to 420
joep888: folds
Uncalled bet (300) returned to RPatterson
RPatterson collected 360 from pot
RPatterson: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 360 | Rake 0
Board [3c 2c 6c]
Seat 1: joep888 (button) (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: RPatterson (big blind) collected (360)

It's been a few hands back and forth with nothing to speak of.  Again I figured A6s worth a call but not good enoug to 3bet.  He had been agressive thus far and I figured he'd cbet so I checked.  I didn't want to give him a free look with a club and I dont want to give him good odds to encourage a call with the draw.  Pot comitting myself here with tp no kicker on a 3lfush board felt perhaps a little spewy.  Maybe I should have led?  Or check-called and donked the turn if it's safe?

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PokerStars Game #28524991343: Tournament #166022174, $11.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2009/05/23 7:07:35 PT [2009/05/23 10:07:35 ET]
Table '166022174 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: joep888 (1460 in chips)
Seat 2: RPatterson (1540 in chips)
RPatterson: posts small blind 10
joep888: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RPatterson [As 6c]
RPatterson: raises 40 to 60
joep888: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [Tc Td 8d]
joep888: checks
RPatterson: checks
*** TURN *** [Tc Td 8d] [9h]
joep888: checks
RPatterson: checks
*** RIVER *** [Tc Td 8d 9h] [7h]
joep888: bets 100
RPatterson: calls 100
*** SHOW DOWN ***
joep888: shows [2d 5d] (a pair of Tens)
RPatterson: shows [As 6c] (a straight, Six to Ten)
RPatterson collected 320 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 320 | Rake 0
Board [Tc Td 8d 9h 7h]
Seat 1: joep888 (big blind) showed [2d 5d] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 2: RPatterson (button) (small blind) showed [As 6c] and won (320) with a straight, Six to Ten

 

Next hand.  Felt like board was too connected to c-bet and check-raising his c-bet and making him fold last hand may entice him to get revenge this hand.  Turn was even more connected so I checked hoping to just check down A high on the river.  Now I hit the low end of the straight and he throws out nearly a pot bet.  We still haven't had much preflop play and I don't think I had any reads for this spot.  I just felt like my straight is going to bet good better than the 2.2-1 the pot is offering me so I made the call.

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PokerStars Game #28525013846: Tournament #166022174, $11.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2009/05/23 7:08:26 PT [2009/05/23 10:08:26 ET]
Table '166022174 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: joep888 (1300 in chips)
Seat 2: RPatterson (1700 in chips)
joep888: posts small blind 10
RPatterson: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RPatterson [Ah 7h]
joep888: raises 40 to 60
RPatterson: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [3d Ad 6d]
RPatterson: bets 80
joep888: folds
Uncalled bet (80) returned to RPatterson
RPatterson collected 120 from pot
RPatterson: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 120 | Rake 0
Board [3d Ad 6d]
Seat 1: joep888 (button) (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: RPatterson (big blind) collected (120)

Few hands later.  Am I calling bets oop too often?  Should I be folding or 3betting any of these 3 oop calls?  Since I c-raised him last time I was worried he might check behind a diamond.  And also thought stack sizes were alright for him to semi-bluff raise me with a diamond and I could shove over and shut him out.  Better line ideas?

 

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PokerStars Game #28525035295: Tournament #166022174, $11.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2009/05/23 7:09:15 PT [2009/05/23 10:09:15 ET]
Table '166022174 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: joep888 (1290 in chips)
Seat 2: RPatterson (1710 in chips)
RPatterson: posts small blind 10
joep888: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RPatterson [Qd Jc]
RPatterson: raises 40 to 60
joep888: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [2s As Js]
joep888: checks
RPatterson: bets 80
joep888: calls 80
*** TURN *** [2s As Js] [9h]
joep888: checks
RPatterson: checks
*** RIVER *** [2s As Js 9h] [6c]
joep888: bets 220
RPatterson: folds
Uncalled bet (220) returned to joep888
joep888 collected 280 from pot
joep888: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 280 | Rake 0
Board [2s As Js 9h 6c]
Seat 1: joep888 (big blind) collected (280)
Seat 2: RPatterson (button) (small blind) folded on the River
 

Eugh.  This is pretty ugly.  I decided to check the turn for pot control and just call a river bet.  Maybe I should have barreled?  His river bet is strong but he's pot'ed river before on that 4straight board with air after I showed weakness.  In retrospect I'm thinking this is probably a call since he's gonna be on a missed flush draw so often.  What do you guys think?

 

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PokerStars Game #28525089407: Tournament #166022174, $11.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level II (15/30) - 2009/05/23 7:11:19 PT [2009/05/23 10:11:19 ET]
Table '166022174 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: joep888 (1340 in chips)
Seat 2: RPatterson (1660 in chips)
joep888: posts small blind 15
RPatterson: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RPatterson [Ah Ks]
joep888: calls 15
RPatterson: raises 75 to 105
joep888: calls 75
*** FLOP *** [Th 7d 9s]
RPatterson: checks
joep888: bets 120
RPatterson: folds
Uncalled bet (120) returned to joep888
joep888 collected 210 from pot
joep888: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 210 | Rake 0
Board [Th 7d 9s]
Seat 1: joep888 (button) (small blind) collected (210)
Seat 2: RPatterson (big blind) folded on the Flop

Another eugh hand.   I didn't want to cbet into that and have no plan after calling his bet so I just dump it a little embaressed.  Pretty weak-tight play there.  C-bet anyways?  Float?  Did I do good?

If you're curious final hand was 25/50 I got AK in pre vs. his QQ and won.  Thanks for your input guys.

 

xSCWx's picture
1. Standard. You shouldn't

1. Standard. You shouldn't be folding to his cbet every time you miss but I just don't think this is a good board to bluff on against most players.
2. This is standard for me.
3. Looks fine. Cbetting the flop is viable but checking behind is better if you think most of the draws are going to raise you off your hand and you don't think he will bet you out at the turn with a pure bluff.
3 (again?!). I'd flat call these AXs hands and 3bet hands like 78o, AJ+, 57dd, etc. so my range is mostly hands that are dominating their calling range or live cards against it. It is also polarized so I have a pretty easy decision if they 4bet AI. Based upon your other descriptions it sounds like he is cbetting every time, so I think you are better off check/raising him here to push him off his hand (which is likely to have a lot of equity against you).
4. This really depends on how your opponent plays. Will he bluff the river if he misses? Will he make the bet this big? What kind of hands is he flat calling on this flop?
5. This board pretty much smacks most people's limp/call range so I think your check/fold is ok. I'd check into most passive players and cbet/fold into most of the more aggressive ones.

sbarber's picture
I thought these were played

I thought these were played well, and way above the level of thought I'd expect at $11's.  Maybe I'm just a donk :)
I had one question for xSCWx on point 4.   One of the problems with lower stakes HUSNG's is you get 10 complete unknowns in a row, varying greatly in style and knowledge.  So if it's still early in the match, these calls might be for a lot of chips, but without enough background to know whether he's missed a draw, slowplayed a flush or can value betting an ace thinly there.  It's hard to imagine he just called the flop with an ace, checked to the river then bet big, very unbelievable.  Looks much more like a slowplay of a monster, or a missed draw on the river, I would have made the call.  But then again, back to the first point, I might just be a donk.

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