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QQ, bluff catch turn and river 2barrel in 3pot OOP

My thought process: 

QQ OOP facing min raise @ 24BB

=> 3b for value, make it NAI to give villain room to spew 4b or continue with hands I have great static equity against and he can make mistakes with postflop

Villain flats my NAI 3b => I think he 4b jams most of his value holdings preflop (other than occassionally AA & KK) and his flatting range is largely middling to high suited / connected type holdings which feels like it can flat and continue in position. 

The flop comes KJ4 tt, which hits his NAI 3b flatting range quite hard. 

But other than his Kx holdings, I'm ahead of a lot of his range. 

1. This was the first tough decision => check to him or cbet and get it in (I'm assuming he can get it in here with Kx, Jx sometimes and a lot of FDs which I'm doing great against). 

 

I decide to check, feeling that a bet would only serve to narrow his range he continues with to more hands which are ahead of mine. 

If he bets when checked to, I jam to get in vs his FDs. I figure he folds a lot of his weaker Kx to a NAI 3b preflop so his ratio of Kx to FDs is overwhelmingly in favour of the FDs which I'm doing great against. 

He checks back when checked to.

I don't think he has Kx because it would bet to protect against the FD. 

I think he sometimes bet folds his Jx when checked to here and sometimes checks it back. I don't think there are many 4s in his range. 

So his check back range is mostly Jx + air (which based on his assumed preflop call NAI 3b range has a decent amount of gutshots too, but I'm not too worried about them because I have them largely blocked with my QQ) 

 

The turn brings a card which should hit my preflop 3b range pretty hard. But also completes the FD. 

2. I need to decide whether I bet here and likely take the pot down? Or check to him and represent a NAI 3b bluff that gave up postflop when called?

I decide to check to him as there isn't much value in betting other than to get one street from single diamond unsuited hands.

Surprisingly he bets when checked to 60% pot. 

I don't think there is much Ax and Jx in his range here and decide to peel one street with my now made hand + super strong river redraws. 

 

The river comes a 3, blank. All the turned FDs miss, the gutshots that hadn't hit miss and villain puts his last 13BB into a pot of 22BB. 

I'm layed odds of about 25% here to call and bluff catch. 

I do and it works out this time. 

He ends up turning up with a hand which surprised me that he would continue vs a preflop NAI 3b. 

3. But is this a profitable call vs villain's range? 

 

4. I think the "standard" play here would be to cbet and call a jam on the flop?

 

No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players

$6.85+$0.15

Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter

BB Hero 520  
SB asbo22 480  

Effective Stacks: 24bb

Blinds 10/20

Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)

Hero is BB

cQdQ

asbo22 raises to 40, Hero raises to 100, asbo22 calls 60

Flop (200, 2 players)

dKdJh4

Hero checks, asbo22 checks

Turn (200, 2 players)

dA

Hero checks, asbo22 bets 120, Hero calls 120

River (440, 2 players)

s3

Hero checks, asbo22 goes all-in 260, Hero calls 260

Final Pot: 960

Hero shows a pair of Queens

cQdQ

asbo22 shows high card Ace

c6c9

Hero wins 960 ( won +480 )

asbo22 lost -480

Dipl.Komp.'s picture
i think you played the hand

i think you played the hand fine. concerning your hand reading i would also agree. he is pretty unlikely to have a king here, because he would have bet OTF. the ace is also unlikely, because many villains would 4bet jam Ax, except for the lower Ax (but many villains still jam those although a hand like A3 will do very badly against a 4bet calling range). i´d say the way you played it is the best way to extract value. the hands that are behind or that have no equity, will fold to a cbet anyway, so there´s no gain. and against the hands that are ahead or that have decent equity, the money will go in on the flop no matter what. to extract money from the hands of the first category, you have to play like you give up your PF bluff. so, yes, well played.