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PakPaTak discussion about poker

Hi,this is my 1. post here since i become member of HUSNG. So first of all hello my fellow HUSNG grinders. My name is Grega and i play HUSNG on iPoker since this year. I started poker last year playing SNG FR and 6max. After i reached 50$ lvl at iPoker i had a filling that they presented no chalange to me (they are mainly PF games), so i decidet to try HUSNG (ok i admit i also tried 100$ DoNs and run horible). Since than i moved from 20$ to 100-200$. I know i have some leaks and need to improve some things, so i decided to join this site and try to learn some new "triks" :D. I will do my best to improve my game, that is why i will try to be as active as posible in this forum (even doe i have a lot of work at faculty).  Ok enough of me. Ohh one more thing, all my questions, monologs and other stuff will be adrest in this topic, so i wont open ton of new ones.So now that u know everything about me :D lets talk some poker :D. As mantion i played on iPoker, so lads who else is playing there (u dont have to tell me your nick if u dont want to).Would be great to know some other regs...Do u also have a feling there is shortage of games at 100+ (i dont play 350+so cant tell about them) stakes, especialy since iPoker lounched iPoker.fr ?Becouse of lack of games i started playing ST (played around 600 this month). I run close to 0$, but not sure if that is good or bad (not enough games, and also higher rake= 100+5$ and 200+10$). So most of my $ comes from RB which is OK, but i still feel that it would be great if i could be 1-2% ROI winner. Structure of ST on iPoker is somewhat difernt than on FT. U start with 75BB and BB go up every min. So there is a lot of games u play 4-15 BB deep. Maybe some ST expert would be willing to give some usefull tip since most of ST vidoes are from FT.One more think, what computer do u use? I moved to MAC for security, but have a lot of problems with cliant so I (ok my brother) set up virtual box, so i can run windows. Ipoker mac cliant is realy terrible :S.Any feedbeck will be apreciated :P P.S. Sry for my bad grammer, but i have simmilar problems in my nativ languge :DRegardsGrega

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Hi, i will go starit to my

Hi,i will go starit to my question: I am in BB and have 900 in chips (with BB), and blinds are 150/300. So if SB goes AI we need to pay 600 chips to get 1800, so baisicly we have pod odds to call Ai every time we are 3 BB deep. My qestion is: do we fold in any situation when we are 3 BB deep and on BB? Further more when we are 3-4BB deep and on SB, is it +Ev to jam 100%? If we fold from SB when we are around 4BB deep, we face AI from SB and now we are in front of decison, do we call 72o (with pod odds to call)...So is it not better just to jam ATC when we are 3-4BB deep? regardsGrega

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Hi Pakpatak and welcome to

Hi Pakpatak and welcome to hunsg.com. There are tons of great videos here and this one will answer your question about shoving with short stacks:http://www.husng.com/content/rypac13-video-09-introduction-end-gameThis is a very solid introduction to the endgame and Ryan will be happy to answer any questions you have after watching it.Don't worry about your English, everyone understands and it's not bad anyway. I only speak one language myself (English of course), so you are doing much better than me. But I am starting a study of Tagalog, the language of the Philippines and should be able to speak fairly well in a couple months.Hope to see you more on the forums.

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Qattack i watched the video u

Qattack i watched the video u sugested, but i must say it doesnt answer my question. Furthermore some 2+2 posters claim that nash pushing chart is not as optimal as Chubukov.I also have a question regardin situation Rypac called AI PF with QJs. Is this standart call vs other regs? I mean what are we expecting SB is pushing 15BB deep? QT, Q9, Q8, JT, J9,T9, 98s, 87s, 76s, all other are K3+ A2+, 22+. So in most situation we are behind (again i am talking about solid player) or I am wrong?

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Hey Pakpatak, QJs is around

Hey Pakpatak,QJs is around 50% equity against a wide shoving range from 15bbs, including PPs, all Ax hands and a lot of the middling suited and connecting type hands such as 98 and T8.The tighter you get from there, the worst QJs does, and it can be commonly overplayed against tighter ranges, but against a wider type range there of say 40% it's a clear call.

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If i undersant u corect, u

If i undersant u corect, u are basicly saying that vs. unknow loosing oponet we should call QJs all day (especialy playing super turbos), becouse there will be enought worse hand in his range taht we will make up when we are behind?I would still like to know your toughts when 3-5 BB deep in superturbos.

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You can just follow the NASH

You can just follow the NASH chart for 3-5bbs and you'll likely be in good shape.  It's hard to tell if somebody will push 100% of hands or 70% of hands in those situations, so defaulting to NASH is probably ideal for BB play.  In the SB you can shove even wider 3-5bbs if you suspect they are folding anything NASH says to call with, as a tighter calling range 3-5bbs deep is taken advantage of by a wider pushing range.

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Hi lads, I have another

Hi lads,I have another question for coaches and all others that play 100$+ HUSNG. I noticed Skates replay on forum regarding some math problem...so are all of u, which play highr BI HUSNG, so good with math? Becosue i realy suck, especialy becouse i dont use it since high schoole (where i was good at it). Is it posibel to beat higher stakes without undersanding all those equazion/formulas?I admit that my playing mostly relays on filling, logic, and game flow (ok i know some game teory, how to play vs. differnet oponent). Is that my leak?10x for replaysGrega

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I have very little formal

I have very little formal math.  I don't regularly use any advanced math during any matches.However, using some tougher calculations can be helpful, but there are programs that do a lot of that for you (between stoxev, sitngo wiz, poker stove and others).I think I've actually gained more from being quick at basic math (my strength in math, as opposed to tougher math which is my weakness) than anything.  Being able to figure out the pot and the effective stack size a street or two ahead is very helpful for sizing bets, it keeps you out of tough or unexpected spots and allows you to focus on taking the best line, rather than making one decision after another that is not connected.

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Hi lads, today i have a

Hi lads,today i have a question for all u math guys. Lets say both hero and villan have around 25BB (BB=60) and hero rais to 120 and villan rerais to 360. So pot is 480. What % of time villan must fold that my show with ATC is profitabel? How much behind can i be if he call my Ai 100%?What if it was just the opposit situation, so i rais to 360 and villan pushed. How much behind can i be that this is still +EV call if there is 1/3 stack already in pot?One more for today: i am small blind and flop is Ah2h7s. Stack are same as above(and so are BB). Pot is 240 and i made standart Cbet of 120 with FD (lets say i have JTs). Villan C/R me to 300, so i know he has TP. Pot is 660. Is it corect for me to push here, even if villan call 100% or does he have to fold some time so that my push is +EV?10x for the answers.regardsGrega

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@Pakpatak: As for your first

@Pakpatak: As for your first question, this depends entirely on your initial raising range, your opponent's 3B range, and your opponent's calling range to your shove.To see this, imagine that you are only raising preflop with AA and Villain 3B 100% of his range. Obviously, it is now profitable to shove your "ATC", as your ATC is only AA.Now, switch this to where you are raising preflop with 100% of hands. Villain 3B with only AA. Now your ATC card shove will obviously be terrible.Let's consider a more realistic example:You raise: 57.1%Opponent 3B: 17.9%You Raise ATCOpponent would need to call only 10.2% of hands or less (AA-55,AKs-A8s,KQs,AKo-ATo) to make your shove profitable.If, on the other hand, your opponent calls with a perfect range of 13.2% (AA-33,AKs-A8s,KQs-KTs,QJs,JTs,AKo-ATo,KQo), then your optimal shoving range is 12.2% (AA-44,AKs-A8s,KQs-KJs,QJs,AKo-ATo,KQo).*****To obtain these sample numbers, I used CardrunnersEV, a program which lets you input complex ranges and determine equities. The program is expensive ($120?), but they have a 30 day trial with limited features that can be used to play around with these numbers.Also note that I used the default ranges provided with CREV, so they are not the best HU ranges.

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Skates, RyPac any diferent

Skates, RyPac any diferent toughts abot my last question? p.s. Ok off topic.....so u go out what do u drink? Letsk talk.... :D p.p.s. U know why women have shorter feet ? EVOLUTION! So they can be closer to kicthen owen :P 

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Hi,   how width do u call 1.

Hi, how width do u call 1. hand all-in from unknow villan (i only knew he played like 5-6 HUSNG games, and started very low and than jumped to 200 playing me, and i suspect he is aggro/tilted). It is turbo speed 75bb deep HUSNG match. 

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I have a very fast computer,

I have a very fast computer, so I'm using VirtualBox on Linux to run a Window XP virtual machine that I only use for playing poker.