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Know the difference between studying that will help you and studying that won't

 If you’re reading this, I can pretty safely assume that you like learning about poker theory. You don’t mind someone else telling you how you might adjust your game to increase your profits. The terms “polarized”, “perceived range”, and “population tendencies” don’t send you running for the hills screaming about what the nerds have done to an ideally pure and intuitive game. You’re motivated to get better, and you’re willing to put in the work to get to the top, where you see the most successful high stakes players grinding out such pretty graphs. All of this is good – very good, in fact. Most of the time, having that kind of determination and willingness to work hard will serve your interests. As much as it can be tempting to look at the best players in the game and only think of them as prodigies with exceptional natural talent (very often also true), there are players with just a little less god-given skill who work their asses off to knock the current legends off their perch. Sometimes they succeed and we stop thinking of past legends so highly, sometimes they don’t, and you get someone like livb112, who has been at the top of the HUSNG world for many years now. That’s not just talent, that’s a continuous drive to be the best and an understanding that staying on top of the game means working at it. OK, you get it, hard work is important. But that’s not what this article is about. You knew that hard work is important already, that’s why you’re reading this instead of all the other things you could be doing with your time right now. Instead, the point of this article is to warn you about one of the biggest problems people who like to read poker theory often have: Thinking you’re becoming a better poker player by studying, when really you’re not. Sklansky-Chubokov is a great example of where people run into trouble. It seems like a concept for advanced players – An endgame chart (like NASH), except more obscure than NASH. This one tells you how to play against your opponent if he has a perfect calling range against your hand. So it comes across as pretty cool, and like it might be some tool you could use to get an edge on very good players (or something they’re using to exploit you). However, as it turns out, basically the entire exercise is useless. An opponent who can see your cards is so far removed from the experience of real poker that the charts give very little useful information to good players. In fact, my guess would be that most students who come to me would be better off having never heard of Chubokov, and that attempting to learn about it has actually lost them money, with no significant payoff if they would have understood it correctly. That’s just one very small example. I could list a ton of individual instances of this happening, but I don’t want you to miss the big picture by looking at each instance on its own and saying “well, I don’t do that, so mersenneary isn’t talking to me”. That’s because I can pretty much guarantee you that you do something in this general category. Almost everybody who spends time studying poker also spends time studying the game in a way that won’t help them earn extra money at all, while at the same time believing the opposite. This will probably get edited out of the print version of this article, but I’ve always thought of this as “masturbatory learning”. It can often come out of a desire to say the following things: I’m great. I work hard. I know advanced poker concepts. I deserve better results. I know the theory of the game better than other people do. The more complicated things get, the better I am. I can talk about the details of a situation in exquisite detail, using all of the poker terms people use. I can find the answer to any poker question. I can make myself come across well on an internet poker forum, or when talking about poker with my friends. I’m learning and I’m getting better – I deserve success. To be clear, there are plenty of other harmless reasons as well – maybe you know that this isn’t going to help you win more money, but you just like solving poker puzzles and developing your poker mind, even if this specific question isn’t actually going to have much of an effect on your results. And that’s perfectly fine. I’m not trying to tell anybody to not do something you enjoy doing. I’m just saying, be careful. I always tried to make sure that when I ran statistical analysis or asked a question about a concept, there was a very clear reason for why I was investing the time into doing it, and if I was doing it to become a better poker player, it was because there were very clear implications about practical adjustments I could make depending on what I learned. When you write a proposal for research in academia, you often get scrutinized on the following question: How could your findings affect something that actually matters in terms of the way we do things? Similarly, as a poker professional, if the question you’re asking doesn’t imply a way to make money from the answer, be careful about whether to use your time asking it. When I solved for whether to jam A4o over a minraise first hand in a superturbo, either readless or against someone with a certain experienced opening percentage, it was because I knew I could use that information very directly to win more money. When I solved for the expectation of openjamming certain hands 12bb deep given certain assumptions, it was to compare that expectation against my results limping or minraising and come to a determination of what would make me more money going forward given how often those spots come up. When I queried my database to see my results raising small pairs out of position 35bb deep or more, it was to see if I could make more money by checking behind. When I started worrying I was playing too many hands out of position, and queried my database to find out, it was because I knew that the results had a high probability of making me a lot of money going forward. They did. After spending time learning about poker, you should be able to identify what you learned on that day and specific instances of what you’ll do differently in the future in common situations. Lots of poker questions can be good to answer for fun, and it does help develop your poker mind. But for the most part, professionally, your goal should not merely be to learn an answer. Your goal should be to learn what to do with the answer going forward. If you can’t answer that, maybe that’s the poker puzzle you should start with.  mers

RyPac13's picture
Excellent article, so

Excellent article, so excellent in fact, that you've earned the right to leave in masturbatory if you want (in the print version).A long time ago a very good player was discussing observations of successful players, some of which had a reputation for "sucking" or "having tons of leaks," despite consistently posting impressive months for thousands and thousands of games.  The conclusion was that it isn't about the volume of mistakes the guys were making, but the impact of those mistakes (specifically that "oh those leaks people laugh at him for aren't really big leaks or even leaks at all, and he does a ton of stuff really well that nobody credits him for because it doesn't come across as sexy or super sylish)". That's a conversation that I'm thankful often stays with me and your article is like an extension of that to my me.

thecupshalffull's picture
"Excellent article, so

"Excellent article, so excellent in fact, that you've earned the right to leave in masturbatory if you want (in the print version)."Haha this site grows on me more and more everyday :] On a serious note, really well written article Mers.  I used to be a huge SNG wizard fanatic when I played 18 mans.  Eventually I started to realize that just because someone had made a program that said you can push x bb's from y position vs z calling range profitably doesn't mean that's the most optimal play.  It's simply one of many possible plays of varying profitability. @ Rypac-  It seems like so many players are more concerned with proving their "better" than some other winning player.  If they just put that time into studying what makes that worse player profitable maybe they might actually improve their own game in the process.

RyPac13's picture
Agreed Cup, it's easier said

Agreed Cup, it's easier said than done of course, with emotions and money flying around all the time, and variance further mucking up the picture.Another little story...So this little chubby girl goes up to Dwight who is running the hay festival.  She says, "I found the needle in the haystack, what's my prize?"  He says, "Congratulations, you receive... nothing.  This is a life lesson, some things in life just aren't worth doing."It was a funny line to begin with, but seeing it last night for the zillionth time, I laughed my ass off thinking about the cross application to this article.

thecupshalffull's picture
Haha gotta love coincidental

Haha gotta love coincidental story time :]

mrbambocha's picture
Hey mers! This article is

Hey mers!This article is really good but I can't fully connect with it.Could you give some examples on wrong/right ways to study HH/Video/2p2 - HH :: Just going through hands and saying you I played it fine, just run bad. Focusing on spots that occur rarelly insted of focusing on the small pots that happens freqently...+ HH :: How do you look for the small pots? - Video :: Watching and thinking you've learnt everything you've watched+ Video :: Thinking how you would have played the hand before it plays out. If you would have played differnt make a post about it.(How to you hten make it part of your game) - 2p2 ::+ 2p2 :: Other ways of improving your game?

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I think the biggest thing is

I think the biggest thing is just asking yourself honestly, "does this actually matter?", and just doing that quick check (it would be ironic if you spent too much time studying whether you're spending too much time on studying).There are poker players out there who are quite successful and don't really study the game that much. They kind of look down on forums like this, on going through every variable and trying to deconstruct every possible thing. Occasionally, they actually have a big benefit versus hard working, studying types: They spent their time playing and getting in the trenches and grinding out profits and learning through what they experience, not in theory-land. They don't have to worry about wasting time with ineffective studying because they don't spend any time at all.Ever notice how sometimes, guys who try to break down every variable about how to ask a girl out and get her to fall for him, will fail, and guys who don't seem to be thinking much at all have a lot more success? It's a different thing, obviously, but that's one example of where "studying" is even worse than nothing at all. The guys justify it by saying "I'm so thoughtful, I'm so considerate, I plan everything". It's masturbatory and it doesn't help anything. You want the best of both worlds. You want the ability to reflect on your game, use data to improve, take advice and evaluate its validity. You want to kick the asses of those players who think they're too good to learn more, and you can if you do it right. I got to my level of success by working hard and being more disciplined than other players, by evaluating my play and learning from people who were better than me. I've just also seen so many players who have that same drive and determination stall out because they weren't able to differentiate between studying that felt good but wouldn't do anything and studying that actually would get them to where they want to be.It all boils down to that attitude of "does this actually matter". You can apply that to how you read 2+2, how you watch videos, how you review HHs, y how you talk with friends, everything. Sometimes you need to know that the possibility our opponent has a backdoor flush draw isn't really important to what we're trying to figure out on the flop. You can apply that same type of analysis to how you study, and really just to how you do anything in life. The best type of analysis is one hour that makes you realize you don't need to spend ten more hours analyzing something else.