Hi, this is my first post on this website, I hope I´ll get some good hints from you :)
Villain is unknow. I think flop a turn play is good, but I´m not sure if river is good card to bluff, what do you think?
Hi, this is my first post on this website, I hope I´ll get some good hints from you :)
Villain is unknow. I think flop a turn play is good, but I´m not sure if river is good card to bluff, what do you think?
you can check back the flop actually. but against an opponent who is very straightforward and folds a lot, you can cbet.
turn is a good card for a second barrel
on the river you have to shove to get max fold equity.
Villain never folds Kx and better at this limit, best hand he can fold is something like A4, so overshove and half pot bet has similar fold equity , hasn´t it?
I play the same level as Tightfish,
In this hand I would put villain on a draw, because most players on this level call 2 barrels with a flushdraw, If I had hitted the flop or the turn he would bet to protect against the flushdraw.
Is my way of thinking right or I'm totally wrong??
Hi there Tightfish
In my view, whether or not to cbet the flop depends on your preflop-raise percentage and your opponent's preflop-call percentage. If you have been opening very wide, your range can hit this (low) board quite hard. In a similar way, if villain calls preflop with any two, his range can hit this board rather hard. On the other hand, tight ranges do not hit this board. Bear these points in mind when deciding whether to cbet. Readless, I would probably check back the flop though.
Turn is perfect for a delayed cbet. The K is an obvious scare card and villain will probably be unlikely to float you here without 3x, 4x, 5x, Kx or flush draw (he will be folding most of the time).
On the river, your bluff no longer makes any sense in my view. If you have bet the flop, you are representing 4x, 3x or the straight draw. On the turn, your bet indicates that you have Kx. On the river, you represent 5x only. It's still possible that you are making a thin value bet with Kx, or that you have a flopped set, 2-pair etc. However, I would expect to be called if your opponent has a decent piece of the board.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for reply adam, interesting that "elite" and "veteran" members have so different river opinion....
from personal experience i´d say that passively played flushdraws and stubborn 3x or 2x are a huge part of villain´s range, something like A7 is also possible. another thing is that many villains at that level don´t consider that calling turn and folding river with a marginal hand is a bad idea. i generally agree with adam, but given the tendencies of players (if they face a shove and don´t have a strong hand, they fold) at that level, i´d say that a river shove is profitable in the long run. if someone experienced differently, i am happy to admit i am wrong.
in my personal playbook i would have played the hand differently from the start. i´d probably limp here, but raising isn´t a bad idea. i´m equally fine with both, depending on how villain plays. the flop is a check back for me mostly. the king is a good barrel card. i´d check back the river as well, if called on the turn. as played though, i´d probably barrel (40 chips on the flop is better, you can set up stack sizes for the river more elegantly) all three streets.
would you mind sharing the results with us?
cheers
s.
Villain called with 6c8c.
surprising he didn´t raise the flop. classic calling station behaviour all the way through.