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Tightfish's picture
HTHU 3.5s - Bluffcatch with A high in 3bet pot

Hi everyone,

With villain I have 9 hands long history, and this is second time he 3bets me with the same sizing. I tought its too weak just fold A4o, so I decided to call.

Flop is pretty dry, so its decent chance I have the best hand,  I call.

Turn is checked.

River is pretty strange, he represents Qx and better. Im not sure If he can bluff better Ax this way, secondly my check on turn is maybe sign of weakness so he can bluff scary river card. I have also good odds to call.  Its hard to identify his PF 3bet range, beacause its 3.5s limit.... What do you think?

Villain looked like agro player during that 9 hands.

 

http://www.handconverter.com/hands/2483652

 

Dipl.Komp.'s picture
aggressive guys at 3.50 are

aggressive guys at 3.50 are hard to read, because they play irrationally aggressive. a hand like A4o does pretty bad against a 3bet, because it doesn´t flop well as you can see in the hand. i don´t think that folding it is too weak. you have some SDV, but T and R hit villain pretty good and you have to consider you are beat. i´d fold here. you usually are behind. you lose against pocket pairs, Jx Qx, AK, which are a big part of his range. also he might have hit his bluff with something like 87s. against AT, A9, A7-A2 you split. you basically hope for a hand like KT or a random bluff that missed entirely.

if your opponent is very aggressive, you can consider limp shoving that hand. i think it shows better expectation that calling a huge 3bet.

 

cheers

s.

Tightfish's picture
Thanks for reply, I have some

Thanks for reply, I have some tabs where A4o is good hand enought to call 3bet readless, that why I called. Its focused on ~ 5bb 3bet 25bb deep but this sizing is bigger than expected, so maybe thats why I should fold PF? Anyway, call on the flop is ok?

Dipl.Komp.'s picture
call on the flop is

call on the flop is ok?

that´s exactly why i don´t like the call PF, that´s where your trouble starts and it´s only getting worse street by street. you more or less have to make a decision for your whole stack on the flop with a marginal SDV hand. i am more inclined to fold here, because the stack sizes are so awkward that playing postflop is more or less out of the question.

if you call the flop, i guess you have to consider turning your hand into a bluff on the turn, when it´s checked to you. giving a six outer a free card might not be a good idea. if you float villain, you should in that case take your chance to take down the pot. what do you want to accomplish by checking the turn? are you hoping the river also gets checked down? mind you, you are dominated by every A in villain´s range, you won´t win against most Ax, if checked down. if you shove the turn, you will fold out all Ax and you don´t give villain a free card to beat you.

 

cheers

s.

Tightfish's picture
Thanks, I will think about it

Thanks, I will think about it :)

cdon3822's picture
Fold pre to 3b.You're

Fold pre to 3b.

You're crushed by the value part of his 3b range.

If he is 3b bluffing enough that you could continue with A4o I think it has better expectation to 4b jam it than to flat net of the dead money already in the pot and your hand's poor postflop playability.

AGT89's picture
I think the sizing (120) is

I think the sizing (120) is pretty bad to call, specially with a hand like that.

I would jam preflop as he looks like a little agro, anyway I wouldnt want to overadjust, so its pretty close between folding or jamming, but calling is terrible I guess.

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Dipl.Komp.'s picture
jamming isn´t a good option

jamming isn´t a good option yet i think. he could just be on a card run if he 3bets the second time out of nine hands. against a half way reasonable 3bet range we are doing pretty bad. such huge sizings are usually weighted heavily towards value and we have maybe 40% against a reasonable value range. if i am fullstacked against an opponent that can be beat otherwise, i don´t really feel like gambling with somewhere between 40 and 45% equity. villain has to be 3bet bluffing quite a lot for this to be a profitable shove and with 2 out of 9 we just can´t say that yet. i´d rather suggest to include ragged Aces like that into a limpshove range, as well as small PP, if he´s aggressive and likely to iso raise a lot.

 

cheers

s.