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Turn check very marginal with

Turn check very marginal with K6, but has some reasons for it. I'm still bet/calling. Should be more Tx/9x with a diamond to bet/call it off with this short.I prefer a simple check/jam with the A6, esp vs this cbet size. We're not looking for hands to stick around and play the turn well in position.89: What does "a decent bit" mean? You're correct in asking a lot of these questions because they're quite close, but if they're close, they depend on more exact information. In general though I would fold, but your play is v reasonable, investing 120 to win 205 is a great risk/reward.I would check with the K8, I don't think he folds pairs enough, plus we have the best hand sometimes, which increases the expectation from checking behind.65hh: 100 I'm jamming vs anybody with a wide c/r bluff frequency, flatting against anybody without one. 120 I'm jamming vs wide c/r bluff, folding without.AA: Bet/call. There's enough worse.T8s hand: It's hard to think about "ranges" here because he's doing tihs with a bunch of hands a low percentage of the time. It will often be straight draws/pairs, though. I'd just jam flop.QJ: Close between raising and calling. My default is to call.K2s: Just jamming flop, don't think it's that close (finally!). River's weird. WTF does he have? But not a lot of air. I guess 54s makes sense. I'd fold.64: Would call.Q9: Call one and fold on the turn a lot, don't quite have the evidence to soulread fold flop yet.T9: Bet turn ;) Yes, would follow through on river vs. most. As played, it's lame, but I'm still jamming.    

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Some hands

No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero500  BBdutchpower88500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, dutchpower88 calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) dutchpower88 checks, Hero bets 40, dutchpower88 raises to 100   Final Pot: 220Just played a couple of hands vs this player, he seems pretty tight. What's your plan for this hand? 

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Q5o

No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBGr3en Man580  SBHero420  Effective Stacks: 21bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Gr3en Man calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) Gr3en Man checks, Hero bets 40, Gr3en Man raises to 135, Hero calls 95   Turn (350, 2 players) Gr3en Man goes all-in 405   Final Pot: 755Just played a couple of hands basically no reads at all. I'm a little bit unsure about these spots with TPWK on dry flops, it feels like he either has a complete bluff or a Q with a kicker that owns me. 

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AKo

No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBaldo5590  SBHero410  Effective Stacks: 21bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, aldo5 calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) aldo5 checks, Hero bets 40, aldo5 calls 40   Turn (160, 2 players) aldo5 checks, Hero bets 100, aldo5 calls 100   River (360, 2 players) aldo5 goes all-in 410   Final Pot: 770Random unknown basically no reads at all. Can I ever fold here? Sucha wet board feels like he can have alot of straights and twopairs that beats me and I can only really beat a missed draw or once in a while a King with a lower kicker. 

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88 vs donk

No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBPulumbi450  SBHero550  Effective Stacks: 15bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, Pulumbi calls 30   Flop (120, 2 players) Pulumbi bets 60, Hero calls 60   Turn (240, 2 players) Pulumbi bets 60, Hero calls 60   River (360, 2 players) Pulumbi goes all-in 270   Final Pot: 630This guy loves to call preflop with a wide range. Have seen him donk out one time before other than that no big reads. 

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Q5s facing ai

No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BB190600450  SBHero550  Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, 190600 calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) 190600 checks, Hero bets 40, 190600 goes all-in 410, Hero folds   Final Pot: 530 190600 wins 530 ( won +80 ) Hero lost -80 Pretty much readless, seems to be a guy who calls alot preflop. What hands would you have to have to call this shove? 

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T5s facing CR's

No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBmoneyMiker11580  SBHero420  Effective Stacks: 21bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, moneyMiker11 calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) moneyMiker11 checks, Hero bets 60, moneyMiker11 raises to 140   Final Pot: 280He's calling pretty loosely from the BB and has a 22% CR. So what's your plan here and how do you think about similair spots? 

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T6: flatting and getting in

T6: flatting and getting in on dry turns. jamming flop with still a reasonable amount behind seems pretty bad vs the average player who seems tight.Q5: this is a little different to me...the bigger c/r size followed by jam is often a little on the weaker side than a smaller c/r on flop imo. calling turn seems totally fine. i'm not folding in these spots until i start establishing some real reads that villain is super nitty here. yes, that means vs the tightest players you will be exploited with these type hands by their super nitty ranges, but we can't just magically know their ranges so we make decisions based on what we do vs the population tendancy (the average player) in this spot. vs the average player, i'm not folding.AK: you have to call 230 into a pot of 820, so you need to be good 28%. on this board texture, and with how hard this river connects to his c/c range, i think a fold is good. really doubt you see >28% bluffs/worse hands in this spot. 88: I probably just jam flop. I don't think you see a K donkbet much at these stacks, and even if he is donking KX we aer getting stacked by that no matter how the hand plays out anyways. Villains will def hero their 4X/5X/most draws at these stacks. I just hate flatting vs an undefined donking range and giving up so much free equity with stacks so short (we are going to have to stack off real wide on turn/river). much deeper than this, it would be a flat 100% of the time for me fwiw.Q8: would call with KX and T9s+. even if it's a combo of KX/flushdraws/JT, QX isn't doing good enough vs that for a call.T5: another gross spot with a marginal tp. i would probably fold to this c/r size vs the average player (super strong range imo) - but would be calling bigger c/r + check/jams...just see that as a ton weaker overall. vs a slightly wide c/r i'm not folding tho, similar reasons as the first 2 hands.

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Thank you, and now some more hands

Hi again, I have fucked up my pointfinger by clicking to much. Pretty ridiculous but true :P. So I guess I'm spending my hours studying instead of playing. Some hands:  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBnerbis500  BBHero500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB nerbis raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, nerbis bets 40, Hero calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) Hero checks, nerbis bets 80, Hero calls 80    River (320, 2 players) Hero checks, nerbis goes all-in 340    Final Pot: 660I have been playing alot of tours vs this guy he opens around 70% and cbet 62% I'm not sure he is capable of bluffing 3 streets but he probably is.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBderinselmann520  SBHero480  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, derinselmann calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) derinselmann checks, Hero bets 40, derinselmann calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) derinselmann checks    Final Pot: 160So basically no info on this guy, is this a standard dubbel barrel and get it in vs a CR ai?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBO_Rappa_BR490  SBHero510  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, O_Rappa_BR calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) O_Rappa_BR checks, Hero bets 40, O_Rappa_BR raises to 140, Hero folds    Final Pot: 260So not much info on this guy either, when he make it this big I don't think it's a pure bluff but let's pretend he just makes it t100 or t120 and we are still readless, what's your default play on this paired board?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBhaski161520  SBHero480  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, haski161 raises to 80, Hero folds    Final Pot: 120What hands would you call a 3b t80 readless?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBvas-y101500  BBHero500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB vas-y101 calls 10, Hero raises to 60, vas-y101 calls 40    Flop (120, 2 players) Hero bets 60, vas-y101 calls 60    Turn (240, 2 players) Hero bets 140, vas-y101 calls 140    Final Pot: 520So this guy is limping 40% minra 30% and I don't know if he folds his limps ta a raise. Anyways What do you think about 2 barrel and  3 barrel on a blank river?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero540  BB250crash460  Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, 250crash calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) 250crash checks    Final Pot: 80So not an ideal flop for my hand would you just check it down and pray for a showdown or what's your plan?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBari/turtle405  SBHero595  Effective Stacks: 10bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 80, ari/turtle raises to 400, Hero goes all-in 595, ari/turtle folds    Final Pot: 995 Hero wins 995 ( won +400 ) ari/turtle lost -400 Soulread?       No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero490  SBOxota510  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Oxota raises to 40, Hero calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, Oxota bets 40, Hero raises to 110, Oxota goes all-in 470   Final Pot: 660So playing a guy that could be a reg second or third hand into the match. Is this generally a good or bad flop to CR's bluff and if you CR bluff what sizing would you use? 

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one of my best friends got

one of my best friends got carpal tunnel in his wrist last year. he had epic wrist pain for a while and had to start sitting differently while playing. poker injuries are brutal!J9: folding river is too damn exploitable for me, esp when flush draws missed and hes a thinking player so he has some incentive to be barreling. i would c/r the flop to t90ish because people level themselves really hard when you dont rep much with a c/r.97: wow, i don't think getting in vs a turn c/r is standard at all. i mean depends on the sizing, if you make it big and commit yourself, then obv you have to stack off - but i think we can do a lot better than that. if you barrel the turn t65ish, you rep the board well, you give good odds for tons of pairs/combo draws to call, and setup stacks well to jam rivers with a 3rd barrel. super-mandatory turn barrrel though.AT: i'm folding to all readless. vs a range of KX/some 4X/flush draws we aren't doing that great. yes, we might be getting exploited by a c/r bluffing range, but we don't know that so we just have to base our decisions off the population tendancy. the average player doesn't c/r bluff nearly enough. i'm willing to make some seemingly nitty folds bc of this for a while. of course, i'm adjusting pretty quickly.Q6: good fold. T7o+ 78s+, folding A2-A7o and flatting A2-A7s, jamming A8+ 22+. something like that.QT: you def need to setup stack sizes for river better for a 3rd barrel. I would just cbet t50, and barrel something that sets up stacks where the remaining eff stx after turn call are close to pot size. so we can jam 280 into 300 or something like that. 66: checking down looks good readless. if you know villain 3bet shoves all of his AX, i think turning your hand into a bluff and barreling off on dry turn/rivers would be good too since villains range is so weak and you rep the board well.KK: omgK4s: not a bad board to c/r vs a thinking player. K4s is reasonable with a backdoor flushdraw, i'd prefer something with overs though like JTdd Q9dd or something. i think villains range will play the same to t100 as t110 usually, so i'd go with the smaller size to setup better turn stacks to fire a barrel on certain turns.  

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MOAR HANDS!

MOAR HANDS!

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yea

Ye dude but I'm a lazy fuck so I always procrastinate on it. But TODAY  is the day that I'm finally GOING TO CHANGE my underwear.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBjackstack99610  BBHero390  Effective Stacks: 20bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB jackstack99 calls 10, Hero raises to 60, jackstack99 calls 40    Flop (120, 2 players) Hero bets 60, jackstack99 calls 60    Turn (240, 2 players) Hero bets 90, jackstack99 calls 90    River (420, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 180    Final Pot: 600So I'm playing this reg, he has been minraising a healty amount and he's been limping alot of trash that mostly folds to a 3x so I decided to attack with a pretty bad hand.   No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBMr CharPokes520  SBHero480  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Mr CharPokes calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Mr CharPokes checks, Hero bets 40, Mr CharPokes calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) Mr CharPokes checks, Hero bets 100, Mr CharPokes calls 100    River (360, 2 players) Mr CharPokes goes all-in 340    Final Pot: 700So this is a fish who likes to call with alot of stuff preflop, he probably also calls alot of conts not sure though.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero535  BBI just L0Ld465  Effective Stacks: 16bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, I just L0Ld calls 30    Flop (120, 2 players) I just L0Ld checks, Hero bets 45, I just L0Ld raises to 90, Hero calls 45    Turn (300, 2 players) I just L0Ld goes all-in 315, Hero calls 315    River (930, 2 players, 1 all-in)    Final Pot: 930 Hero shows two pair, Queens and Fives I just L0Ld shows three of a kind, Jacks I just L0Ld wins 930 ( won +465 ) Hero lost -465So I'm a little bit curious as to way ''I Just Lold'' just called with JJ 15bb deep and if it's ever good to do that? How would you play QQ and KK from BB 15bb deep?        No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero500  BBI just L0Ld500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, I just L0Ld calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) I just L0Ld checks, Hero bets 40, I just L0Ld raises to 80, Hero calls 40    Turn (240, 2 players) I just L0Ld bets 100, Hero folds    Final Pot: 340This is at the very begining of the match so basically no reads but it's ''I just lold'' so I know he's very good.What's your thoughts about this hand?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero580  BBProdigleSon420  Effective Stacks: 21bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, ProdigleSon calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) ProdigleSon checks, Hero bets 40, ProdigleSon raises to 90, Hero calls 50    Turn (260, 2 players) ProdigleSon bets 60, Hero goes all-in 450, ProdigleSon folds    Final Pot: 770Playing a reg who flatts 34% 3bet 20% and CR's 27%. What's your plan on the flop when you get CR'd?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero540  SBmaoulis460  Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB maoulis raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, maoulis bets 60, Hero calls 60    Turn (200, 2 players) Hero checks, maoulis bets 100, Hero calls 100    River (400, 2 players) Hero checks, maoulis goes all-in 260, Hero calls 260    Final Pot: 920 Hero shows two pair, Tens and Fives maoulis shows two pair, Kings and Fives maoulis wins 920 ( won +460 ) Hero lost -460 Playing an unknown basically no reads. Standard situation to slowplay all the way right?        No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero500  BBmartindamian500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, martindamian calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) martindamian checks, Hero bets 40, martindamian raises to 80, Hero folds    Final Pot: 200First hand vs unknown, thoughts? Say I was in BB on this flop first hand with air, isen't it a good spot to bluff raise?   No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero520  SBhaski161480  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB haski161 calls 10, Hero raises to 60, haski161 calls 40    Flop (120, 2 players) Hero bets 60, haski161 calls 60    Turn (240, 2 players) Hero checks, haski161 checks    River (240, 2 players) Hero checks, haski161 bets 120, Hero folds    Final Pot: 360 haski161 wins 360 ( won +120 ) Hero lost -120So this guys limps 33% and minraise 45% I'm assuming his limping range is way weaker than his minraise range. Anyways how would you have played this hand?      No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero500  BBbrodys1500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, brodys1 calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) brodys1 checks, Hero checks   Turn (80, 2 players) brodys1 bets 40, Hero raises to 120, brodys1 raises to 200   Final Pot: 400This guy is folding over 50% oop, anyways tricky spot. 

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No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBjamani69530  BBHero470  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB jamani69 raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, jamani69 bets 40, Hero raises to 100    Final Pot: 220So I have been ch folding a couple of flops, just check folded a flop that looked exactly like this. My opponent has been minraising around 70% and has cbeted 4 out of 4 times. So I decided to CR on this board that I normally woulden't thoughts?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero610  BBRiverThief390  Effective Stacks: 20bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero calls 10, RiverThief checks    Flop (40, 2 players) RiverThief checks, Hero bets 20, RiverThief raises to 80, Hero goes all-in 590, RiverThief goes all-in 290    Turn (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in)    River (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in)    Final Pot: 1000 Hero shows a pair of Tens RiverThief shows two pair, Tens and Fives RiverThief wins 780 ( won +390 ) Hero lost -390So this guy is 3betting a ton so I limp my QTo.        No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero480  BBJoey01234520  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Joey01234 calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Joey01234 checks, Hero bets 40, Joey01234 calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) Joey01234 checks, Hero bets 100, Joey01234 calls 100    River (360, 2 players) Joey01234 goes all-in 340    Final Pot: 700Can't really remember this hand but he has been flatting with his middeling stuff and 3beted over 25%, small sample.Think he has ch folded one flop before other than that no reads.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero520  SBRoamusJoker480  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB RoamusJoker raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, RoamusJoker bets 40, Hero goes all-in 480, RoamusJoker goes all-in 400    Turn (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in)    River (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in)    Final Pot: 1000 Hero shows a pair of Sixes RoamusJoker shows a pair of Fives Vs a regular he opens 70%+ cbeting 80%+ not sure what to do on this flop.      No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBegor1987375  SBHero625  Effective Stacks: 13bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, egor1987 calls 30    Flop (120, 2 players) egor1987 checks, Hero bets 45, egor1987 goes all-in 315    Final Pot: 480I don't have super much info only played couple of hands, but he has been calling very wide from the BB so far and has been both folding and CR's a flop before vs a cbet.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBangelguillen355  SBHero645  Effective Stacks: 12bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, angelguillen calls 30    Flop (120, 2 players) angelguillen checks, Hero bets 45, angelguillen calls 45    Final Pot: 210So I'm a little bit unsure of when to cbet or not, this guy flatts like 30% normally, but probably a little bit less this short.I guess this flop hits him a decent bit but is still good to cbet? What if the K was a Q,J or a T would that change this to a check back instead?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBtangarana500  SBHero500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, tangarana calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) tangarana checks, Hero bets 40, tangarana calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) tangarana checks, Hero bets 100, tangarana calls 100    River (360, 2 players) tangarana checks, Hero goes all-in 320, tangarana goes all-in 320    Final Pot: 1000 tangarana shows two pair, Sixes and Threes Hero shows a pair of Threes So this guy plays very loosly oop atleast 60%, 3beting over 25% and definitly flats alot cbets.      No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero655  SBekko1345  Effective Stacks: 12bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB ekko1 raises to 60, Hero calls 30    Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, ekko1 bets 60, Hero goes all-in 595, ekko1 goes all-in 225    Turn (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in)    River (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in)    Final Pot: 1000 Hero shows two pair, Jacks and Eights ekko1 shows two pair, Aces and Jacks  Ye I  don't like my play here, but what's the alternative? If I just flatt the cbet on the flop on what turns do I continue?My oppnent is a reg that loves to dubbel and tripel barrel with all kinds of stuff he knows that I know that, he also got a pretty wide preflop range but I don't think it's wide enough to make T8o a 3bet ai.       No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBShak77909590  BBHero410  Effective Stacks: 21bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Shak77909 raises to 60, Hero calls 40    Final Pot: 120So this is a spot that comes up alot how would you play your AA, KK and QQ vs a 3x assuming he has a stronger 3xing than his 2xing.  In this example we are 21bb, but lets also say it's 25bb.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero545  BBKicky 79455  Effective Stacks: 15bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, Kicky 79 calls 30    Flop (120, 2 players) Kicky 79 checks, Hero bets 45, Kicky 79 goes all-in 395    Final Pot: 560So this guy flatts like 40% 3bets 22% and CR's 35% folds 55% vs cbets.He may very well have hit this flop but I probably have alot of equity.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBcucu888560  BBHero440  Effective Stacks: 22bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB cucu888 raises to 40, Hero calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, cucu888 bets 40, Hero raises to 100, cucu888 goes all-in 520, Hero goes all-in 300   Turn (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in)   River (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in)   Final Pot: 1000 cucu888 shows two pair, Jacks and Fours Hero shows two pair, Jacks and Fours  Pretty intersting hand, I don't no much about my opponent more than that he's been minraising a like 3 out for 4 hands and cbetted every flop so far.    

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K4: this is really

K4: this is really bad. preflop - play a coherent range, not individual hands. i think it's fine to bluff raise his limp if you think it's weak - if you are going to raise trash at these stacks though i'd probably raise to 3.5-4xbb to discourage limp/calls a bit more. K4o is poor hand selection though. when you raise a limp and villain calls, your perceived range hits a ton of AXX KXX QXX boards, so K4 continues really poorly postflop as it doesn't hit often and the boards you miss villain is going to realize his equity really well a lot of the time. 74o, T4s, 84s are all going to be a lot better than K4o. the actual bluffing part of your range is opposite your perceived range, so while you will hit some of the low boards with these trashy hands - you still get a bunch of credit on the boards that hit your perceived range. also, if we raise all trashy hands over a limp, we really discourage limping which is a terrible thing for us. when villain limps, he is giving free equity to all the hands in our range that would have otherwise folded to a preflop raise - that's a huge advantage for us long term (we might even be able to show a +ev expectation from the bb with initiative on the flop if he is bad limped!). when we raise a limp with like 40-50% of total hands, we beat our edge (fold equity) to death quickly - villain adjusts by stopping limping or limping strong and our big edge is gone (yes, now we can raise big hands over limps and have better expectation, but our expectation will not be nearly as high as having 70-90% fold equity when we can raise playable trash hands in our range over a limp).postflop: you are jamming 180 into 420. it needs to work like 30% to be good, but ugh people just do not fold much with stacks this short - also, your turn bet will get jammed over with a wide range with stacks so short. i would probably cbet t50, barrel t65 or so to setup better river stacks - doing this with the AX part of your range makes a lot of sense too, since you should have lots of fe on this board.

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QQ: i fold. you need to be

QQ: i fold. you need to be good 35.5% of the time - not enough missed draws in his range to call imo. would need to know he is turning his JX or 4X into a bluff/overplay or something, unlikely though imo.Q5: i imagine this is a board that hits villains oop calling range pretty hard. it is a board that you shouldn't be cbetting very wide bc of that, so i don't see the need to go with a small cbet size when your overall cbetting range is relatively strong. flat is good imo, QX is super underrepped when you flat. i expect all his draws to get in on flop obv, so ur not really giving free equity to draws since they stack no matter what you do.his flat is good if you are minraise/folding a lot at these stacks. otherwise i think its pretty bad. AA/KK i think are very good to flat vs a huge amount of players at these stacks though, since they have such epic card removal to minraise/calling hands.J9 and Q7: both look good to methe Q7 hand i'm flatting flop and almost never folding on turn/rivers vs a 27% c/r range. if i find the range he continues turn/rivers with is fit or fold, you can start making hero folds on spade turns and stuff.T5: not standard to slowplay imo. i would cr to t130. too many action killers on turn for his oesd, TX, 77-99/JJ, 6X type stuff where he will shut down and you lose value. imo when people cbet t60 its with a relatively strong range as well. i would almost never flat here.A6: if you were oop i would c/c flop. the average player doesn't barrel that much, so we can realistically get to showdown a decent amount with the best hand. if i'm playing someone who barrels a ton and cbets wide, c/r is looking better. easy flop fold readless though.KQ: flop and turn look great.river is such a sexy bluff card though! think about how well you rep AX - raise pre (perceived as AX), cbet flop and check turn (perceived as high cards giving up), river A (crushes your raise/cbet/chk range). yes, he will have flushes sometimes and might hero call, but bluffing 160 into 240 only needs to work 40% to be good. i'm almost always betting this river. 

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oky thanks

I especially liked that long answer on the limping subject.However you forgot to answer the last ten hands, please do.

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No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBDry13560  SBHero440  Effective Stacks: 22bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Dry13 calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Dry13 checks, Hero bets 40, Dry13 goes all-in 520    Final Pot: 640Vs an unknown basically no reads, lets imagine this board is even more dry say Q82 and I got like Q5o what would you do vs a CR ai?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBDry13490  SBHero510  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Dry13 calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Dry13 checks, Hero bets 40    Final Pot: 1202nd vs an unknow would you cbet this?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBomsk70520  SBHero480  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, omsk70 calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) omsk70 checks, Hero bets 40, omsk70 raises to 100    Final Pot: 220Vs unknown, what's your plan for this hand?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero500  BBgorki no1500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, gorki no1 calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) gorki no1 checks, Hero bets 40, gorki no1 calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) gorki no1 checks, Hero bets 100, gorki no1 raises to 200    Final Pot: 460Playin vs a pretty loose player both pre and post, what do you do on the turn?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero460  BBpedromezher540  Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, pedromezher calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) pedromezher bets 20, Hero raises to 80, pedromezher calls 60    Turn (240, 2 players) pedromezher bets 20, Hero raises to 180, pedromezher goes all-in 420    Final Pot: 840How would you play this hand? It vs a pretty loose player that donkbets all flops.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBpkrday520  SBHero480  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, pkrday calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) pkrday checks, Hero bets 40, pkrday raises to 100    Final Pot: 2203rd hand vs unknown. Assuming you call what's your plan for the turn?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBkoolbannanas280  SBHero720  Effective Stacks: 14bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, koolbannanas goes all-in 280    Final Pot: 320He just lost a big frustrating pot, how would you play this hand?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBLiverio520  SBHero480  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Liverio calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Liverio checks, Hero bets 40, Liverio raises to 90, Hero calls 50    Turn (260, 2 players) Liverio bets 90, Hero folds    Final Pot: 350This is vs a LAG player but I have only played like 20 hands or something, but he seems fairly competent.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBtonyfo14500  BBHero500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB tonyfo14 calls 10, Hero checks    Flop (40, 2 players) Hero checks, tonyfo14 bets 40, Hero raises to 100, tonyfo14 raises to 280, Hero folds    Final Pot: 420This guy is limping around 40% and minraising 23%.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero520  SBprink11480  Effective Stacks: 12bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is BB prink11 calls 20, Hero raises to 120, prink11 calls 80    Flop (240, 2 players) Hero bets 100, prink11 goes all-in 360, Hero calls 260    Turn (960, 2 players, 1 all-in)    River (960, 2 players, 1 all-in)    Final Pot: 960 Hero shows high card Ace prink11 shows a pair of Nines This guy limps atleast 20%, any thoughts on this hand?      No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero550  BBalexbergof450  Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, alexbergof calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) alexbergof bets 20, Hero calls 20    Turn (120, 2 players) alexbergof bets 20, Hero raises to 80, alexbergof raises to 180    Final Pot: 380This guy is flatting 40% 3b 20% and folds to a ton a cbets, this time he min donks for the first time. What's your thoughs about this hand.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBalexbergof450  BBHero550  Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB alexbergof raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, alexbergof checks    Final Pot: 80Vs unkown, let's pretend he cbet's 40 on this flop what your move and plan for this hand?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBGRAV87520  SBHero480  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, GRAV87 calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) GRAV87 bets 40, Hero calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) GRAV87 bets 80, Hero calls 80    River (320, 2 players) GRAV87 checks, Hero goes all-in 320, GRAV87 folds    Final Pot: 640Not alot of reads, I just think his Turn donk is super wierd so I decide to flat to possible make a move on the river.Thoughts?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBwasaberga550  SBHero450  Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, wasaberga calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) wasaberga checks   Final Pot: 80So how do you play this flop and if you cbet how much and how do you respond to a CR?Kinda early in the game he has opened some buttons. 

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oops missed that. 96s: c/r

oops missed that.96s: c/r with certain hands given your dynamic is great. 96s doesnt have much equity when flatted though. you really will have a decent amount of hands to c/r bluff here: Q9/J9/QXcc/JXcc - decent amount of hand combos, but all have pretty good equity vs a c/r range. remember that you don't rep a ton of hands with a c/r here, so a lot of villains will still call kinda light - it's great if he has a wide c/r %, but we are still going to need some equity...it adds up long term.QT: standard. don't want to flat and let scare cards come that shut down your value from other TX hands. you beat a lot of TX and it's never folding. i might stab t30 if i haven't stabbed much before.AK: i'm a pretty big nit to the call/call/lead-jam line, but this is a spot i'm not folding. JT/missed back door spades, possibly worse KX value-shoving like KJ/KT/K9 maybe. 96: looks good to me. i actually like the overbet shove compared to a non-all in c/r to t140ish bc your overbet shove will fold out a lot of 7X+overs that is doing decent vs you. most other hands that continue vs a c/r will get it in vs t140 and a jam pretty much the same. nice.KT: i'm not folding this short. people spaz pretty hard at these stacks vs a cbet, especially if this is one of your first smaller cbet sizes (induce). i expect to see some wierd hands: TX/5X protecting equity, gutshots, oesd etc. i expect QX to non-allin c/r to try to maximize value a decent % of the time. i'm probably folding T7 and worse (T8/T9/JT all have blockers to his straight draw combos).Q4: looks good to me. a lot of stuff like QT/T9/JT type stuff missed and will fold. 45 into 120 only needs to work 45/165 or about 28%. i imagine you get a fold from 28% of his range, and you have a little equity with your Q when called.KJ: barrel the turn a little smaller to discourage turn check/shoves, and to get called by a wider range (you will have more river fold equity the wider range he calls with...you really want him callign with his 6X/45 type stuff). river jam looks pretty standard to me - you can't know he's going to hero you here, it's absolutely not the population tendancy in this spot (people fold way too much). T8: i like a small c/r to t130 more than a check/jam. it will likely level the shit out of him. he knows you dont have any AX in your oop range here. i'm sure a small c/r induces a 3bet shove from more hands than will call a flop check/jam. your check/jam is definitely +ev though - he just can't find enough hands in his range to exploit you.KK: definitely a flat for me. i'd have to have some really specific reads that his 3x is really strong to 3bet here, or just know that he calls 3bets ridic wide. A6: just jam pre at 15ish bb, doesnt continue well vs a flat. post, i'd cbet t60 here, makes your decision a ton easier when check/shoved - and i'm not really trying to get floated with this hand by cbettign t45. exploitive play ftwQ4: pretty standard.will get to the other set of hands tomorrow. 

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Q7: i dont respect this line

Q7: i dont respect this line much. people show up with way too mcuh dumb shit in this spot. i expect to see a lot of oesd, middle pair type stuff. i'm not folding on either board readless.A6: ya he still has sooo much non-diamond middling stuff that missed.T9: flat and call off on almost all turn/rivers.J9: bet/calling a jam (much weaker line overall, more combo draws protecting). check/minraise i'm a huge nit against until i see reason not to be (high frequency or villain showing down something stupid) - it's such a strong line typically. i would fold AA here.KK: another ridiculous line by villain. i see too much stupid stuff show up with this line. he could be spazzing combo draw type stuff or JX, i'm calling but it sucks.65: i'm folding flop. if he is c/r a range of 8X,diamonds,oesd+gutshots, and some total air - you can not exploit that range by flatting and hand-reading. i would just sigh and fold, wait and see what his c/r frequency is like. if you find that he's c/r a lot, start checking these showdown value hands back more than don't face a c/r well and polarize your cbet range between hands that continue well vs a cbet and hands that easily fold to a cbet (dont check back well)K6hh: i'm thinking it's a minraise/fold. i'm asking some high stakes st regs tho will get back to you on this one. QJ/QT definitely more of a call than K6s tho since they dominate more.67o: if i'm c/r this flop it's definitely not to c/r fold ever. their isn't a bunch that you really get value from unless villain doesn't respect your c/r ont his low-wet board and spazzes a bit - so that's why i'd be c/r. otherwise i'd just c/c.KJ: check/fold flop. it hits a limp/calling range wayy too hard.A6: i dunno its not a line i respect like a c/mr over my 2 barrel or something. i see these guys that mindonk do too much dumb stuff so im not folding. if i see a flush i start nitting up more though.Q5: check/call and reevaluate. would depend on what his 2 barrel % is how i continue. most people dont 2 barrel nearly enough tho so just check/folding a decent amount of turns.JT: looks decent. i think clicking back the flop (if you don't think hes a thinking player and can see through that) could be better. when you flat turn he still has opportunity to just bluff jam rivers - i'd like to take initiative away from him early if you are going to float so light.K8: cbetting half pot and folding to a c/r. the average player doesnt check/raise these boards with a range that K8 is doing that well against. if you find you are getting c/r bluffed a lot, just cbet/jam over a raise.

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No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero500  BBD1mon_116RuS500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, D1mon_116RuS calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) D1mon_116RuS checks, Hero bets 40, D1mon_116RuS raises to 120, Hero calls 80    Turn (320, 2 players) D1mon_116RuS goes all-in 340    Final Pot: 660First hand of the match.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero505  BB4JacksDK495  Effective Stacks: 17bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, 4JacksDK calls 30    Flop (120, 2 players) 4JacksDK checks, Hero bets 60, 4JacksDK folds    Final Pot: 180Let's pretend he cr's to 180 what's your move?Not that many reads he has been calling like 50% preflop folded 40% and cr's one out three flops so far.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBDonald490  SBHero510  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Donald calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Donald checks, Hero bets 40, Donald calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) Donald checks, Hero bets 100, Donald raises to 400    Final Pot: 660He has flatted alot of minraises (60%) and alot of cbet's. He has CR'ed turns before.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBV12PAC604  SBHero396  Effective Stacks: 13bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero calls 15, V12PAC checks    Flop (60, 2 players) V12PAC checks, Hero bets 30, V12PAC raises to 120    Final Pot: 210Can i ever fold here?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero480  SBRomeoBravo13520  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB RomeoBravo13 raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, RomeoBravo13 bets 40, Hero raises to 120    Final Pot: 240Just a question of sizing do you like 120 or 100 or even allin?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero640  BBmaverick570360  Effective Stacks: 18bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, maverick570 calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) maverick570 checks, Hero bets 40, maverick570 calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) maverick570 bets 116, Hero goes all-in 560, maverick570 goes all-in 164    River (1000, 2 players, 2 all-in)    Final Pot: 1000 Hero shows a pair of Sevens maverick570 shows a pair of Jacks Got kinda owned but I like my play , thoughts?      No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBMyace84710  SBHero290  Effective Stacks: 15bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Myace84 calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Myace84 checks, Hero bets 40, Myace84 goes all-in 670    Final Pot: 790Kinda standard player, he folds around 50% calls 25% 3bets 25%, has a big CR's %.How would you play this hand?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBSifosis470  BBHero530  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Sifosis raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, Sifosis bets 30, Hero calls 30    Turn (140, 2 players) Hero checks, Sifosis bets 60, Hero calls 60    River (260, 2 players) Hero checks    Final Pot: 260This is vs another reg at the 200s, dunno if I should bet river or just ch and let him bluff or valuebet.Problem with betting is that I rep 9's all the way.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero420  BBMYT VASIA580  Effective Stacks: 14bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, MYT VASIA calls 30    Flop (120, 2 players) MYT VASIA checks, Hero checks    Turn (120, 2 players) MYT VASIA checks, Hero bets 60, MYT VASIA calls 60    River (240, 2 players) MYT VASIA goes all-in 460    Final Pot: 700So I try a goofy line by just ch flop instead of cbetting cause I'm afraid of a checkraise.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero420  BBjslr3126580  Effective Stacks: 21bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, jslr3126 calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) jslr3126 checks, Hero bets 40, jslr3126 calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) jslr3126 checks, Hero bets 90, jslr3126 calls 90    River (340, 2 players) jslr3126 checks, Hero goes all-in 250    Final Pot: 590This guy flatts 50% and 3b 20%, is this a good spot to 3 barrel?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBKa9 is Back500  BBHero500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Ka9 is Back raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, Ka9 is Back bets 40, Hero raises to 100    Final Pot: 220This guy opens pretty wide, thoughts on my CR?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero500  SBTheShow35500  Effective Stacks: 17bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB TheShow35 calls 15, Hero checks    Flop (60, 2 players) Hero checks, TheShow35 bets 60    Final Pot: 120Would you CR's or slowplay call?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero460  SBKarimannn540  Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Karimannn raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, Karimannn bets 40, Hero raises to 100, Karimannn calls 60    Turn (280, 2 players) Hero bets 140, Karimannn raises to 320, Hero goes all-in 180    Final Pot: 920He opens 70% and cbet's 80%.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHarthor470  SBHero530  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Harthor raises to 90, Hero calls 50    Flop (180, 2 players) Harthor checks, Hero checks    Turn (180, 2 players) Harthor bets 80, Hero calls 80    River (340, 2 players) Harthor checks, Hero checks    Final Pot: 340Kinda readless, I got a little bit scared when he just checked the flop.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero660  BBJammy26340  Effective Stacks: 17bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero calls 10, Jammy26 checks   Flop (40, 2 players) Jammy26 bets 20, Hero raises to 60, Jammy26 raises to 140, Hero goes all-in 640, Jammy26 goes all-in 180   Final Pot: 1000This guy 3bets alot so i limp. Not sure how to play on the flop. 

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No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero550  SBmax15183450  Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB max15183 raises to 40, Hero raises to 100, max15183 calls 60    Flop (200, 2 players) Hero bets 80, max15183 goes all-in 350    Final Pot: 630This guy only opens around 50%. How should I play this flop?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBPlayTheBord520  SBHero480  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, PlayTheBord calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) PlayTheBord checks, Hero bets 40, PlayTheBord calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) PlayTheBord checks, Hero bets 100, PlayTheBord calls 100    River (360, 2 players) PlayTheBord checks, Hero goes all-in 300    Final Pot: 660First or second hand into the game.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero490  SBdamsco0510  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB damsco0 raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, damsco0 bets 40, Hero raises to 100    Final Pot: 220Is this a god CR completely readless?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SB124578963471415  BBHero585  Effective Stacks: 14bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB 124578963471 raises to 60, Hero calls 30    Final Pot: 120This guy has opened 60% so far. Not really sure which hands to flat 14bb deep when I don't think a 3b shove is EV+.What range would you flat?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBJysky11500  BBHero500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Jysky11 raises to 40, Hero raises to 100, Jysky11 calls 60    Flop (200, 2 players) Hero bets 80, Jysky11 raises to 160    Final Pot: 440This person opens 70%+ so I made a 3bet. On the flop I get raised, can't see what I beat but at the same time people love to spazz i 3bet pots.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBibizar1986510  SBHero490  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, ibizar1986 calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) ibizar1986 checks, Hero bets 40, ibizar1986 calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) ibizar1986 checks, Hero bets 80, ibizar1986 calls 80    River (320, 2 players) ibizar1986 goes all-in 350    Final Pot: 670he calls 50% and 3bet 17%. He folds to cbets 35%.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero490  SBPastillo510  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Pastillo raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, Pastillo bets 60, Hero raises to 160, Pastillo goes all-in 470, Hero goes all-in 290    Final Pot: 1000This guy opens a pretty wide range, not sure what to do on this flop.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBruffplayer1380  SBHero620  Effective Stacks: 10bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 80, ruffplayer1 calls 40    Flop (160, 2 players) ruffplayer1 bets 160    Final Pot: 320Pretty tight guy so far with over 50% folds oop, he has been donking like 25% and folded 50% vs cbets.   No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBbrizhanman550  SBHero450  Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, brizhanman calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) brizhanman checks, Hero bets 40, brizhanman raises to 110, Hero goes all-in 410, brizhanman calls 300    Final Pot: 900Readless, how would you play this flop?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBpuan29540  SBHero460  Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, puan29 calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) puan29 checks, Hero bets 40, puan29 raises to 130, Hero goes all-in 420, puan29 calls 290    Final Pot: 920Readless.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero520  SBFAP 12-13480  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB FAP 12-13 calls 10, Hero raises to 70, FAP 12-13 calls 50    Flop (140, 2 players) Hero checks, FAP 12-13 bets 60, Hero folds    Final Pot: 200I dunno feels like this flop hits his flatting range alot, at the same time I got two overs.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBjabbawockez330  SBHero670  Effective Stacks: 17bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, jabbawockez calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) jabbawockez checks, Hero bets 40, jabbawockez raises to 120    Final Pot: 240Thoughts on this hand?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero520  SBLillTT87480  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB LillTT87 raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, LillTT87 bets 40, Hero raises to 120, LillTT87 calls 80    Turn (320, 2 players)    Final Pot: 320Wierd spot on the turn.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero465  SBVivanG535  Effective Stacks: 16bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB VivanG raises to 60, Hero calls 30    Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, VivanG bets 60, Hero raises to 150    Final Pot: 330This guy opens pretty wide 60-70%. So mippair on a drawheavy board, is it just to CR's get it in?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero570  SBhockeyguy117430  Effective Stacks: 11bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is BB hockeyguy117 raises to 80, Hero calls 40   Flop (160, 2 players) Hero checks, hockeyguy117 bets 80, Hero raises to 460, hockeyguy117 goes all-in 270   Turn (970, 2 players, 1 all-in)   River (970, 2 players, 1 all-in)   Final Pot: 970 Hero shows a pair of Sevens hockeyguy117 shows a pair of Tens  Dunno if this person opens wide enough to make 97o a flat in the first place. But let's assume he does, CR's get it in?   

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QT: i'd fold readless. u need

QT: i'd fold readless. u need 34% to call - doubt ur doing that well vs the avg players range. K8:he would have to be c/r pretty wide for you to be able to profitably 3bet shove. you are going to be doing pretty poorly vs all the overs+fd/oesd/overs+gutshot/TX - even if he is spazzing some 8X its not going to be enough.im comfortably folding as i dont think the avg player c/r this flop with a range much wider than that. if i'm getting c/r a lot i just cbet/3bet - and start checking back more bluffcatchers (worse 8x, 6x, gutshots, A/K high)AJ: can see a lot of combo draws/worse JX check/shoving to protect at this point. i'd actually snapfold to a small check/raise though, as that is a MUCH stronger range typically. 86: given the short eff stx and all the spazzy hands/combo draws that make sense, i feel pretty good about getting it in. but yes, you could definitely build a c/r range that you could easily fold against - like if you know for certain that he only c/r 6X+ here or something.T9: i'd like all in more at shorter eff stx like 17bb or something vs a thinking player who you think will perceive a non-allin c/r as a pretty strong - thinking players usually view check/shove weakers. i think check/shoving folds out too many hadns that can continue vs a c/r here though.it's not a board i'm c/r bluffing readless, so i'd prob just be exploitable and go with t120.K7: i dont think you got owned.he floats 2bbs with like 14bb behind, on a board that you should certainly be barreling a high frequency on. i'm sighing and jamming turn too as JX doesnt make a ton of sense. he pretty much luckboxed you imo.J5: meh, with only a 25% call % he should miss this board a bunch so i'm definitely cbetting. if he c/r a lot, i cant see him having enough 8X combos to really be owning us here if his c/r % is high. with short stacks, im just cbet/stacking off. Q9: sifosis is pretty good i think? he was in turbos for a long time at least. he is def the type to be vbetting all of his AX when checked to on the river. i really dont think your lead is getting called by anything worse than that. check/shoving might also maximize value from when he has 9X - can see his 9X just flatting your lead. AT: he is really not repping anything here. i'm not folding - plus you are underrepped after checking back flop so i can see villains finding a reason to go nuts here.AT is strong enough to cbet/stack off on flop this short though. villain should be stacking off pretty wide.95: i'd underbet the turn t70ish - sets up a lot better river stacks for a bluff. i like 3 barreling here vs someone with ranges this wide for sure.96: wide opening range is a good start, but does he cbet wide? it's a pretty good hand to do it with anyway - cbet range would have to be pretty nitty for it to be bad. if his cbet range u could c/r with less backdoor equity than this tho (like K-rag type stuff)J8: i would lead and maximize value from a wider range that might check back when checked to. if he has hands that will stack off vs a c/r, a lot of them will just raise a flop lead or stack off somehow anyway. Q6: looks okT9: i'd be happy to see a flop check. it's a lot more likely to be missed 3bet bluffs or AK/AJ/AT type stuff checking bc he thinks that this board hits your perceived 3bet calling range too hard for a cbet to be good. considering how often i think you are ahead on this flop when checked to, i'd probably bet to protect equity/value.J9: looks good. not folding without crazy reads.

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99: against what is probably

99: against what is probably a pretty tight 3bet calling range (i.e. - a range that murders this board), check/folding is probably best. i would only be cbetting this board if villain was raising a lot pre and calling 3bets real wide (would still have a lot of air on this board).Q3: looks ok, but would probably just bet t80ish on the turn to setup a little better river stacks since we are going to be 3 barrel jamming a ton. doubt there are many hands we are getting to fold on the turn anyways - we are basically barreling bc the avg range that c/c this flop/turn can't stand 3rd barrels very well.97: i'd like to have some backdoor equity at least. so JT/97cc/K7 type stuff. that additional equity really adds up in these spots long term.95: check/reevaluating this board is probably best, considering how many combos in the typical 3bet-calling range hit this board: so much Kx, gutshots, diamonds, better 9X that is never folding. i'd probably c/c flop and give up turn/rivers  alot, if flop goes chk/chk stabbing a lot of turns. villain has to be calling 3bets kinda wide to have much air here.AQ: u need to be right about 35%. the only air combo that makes any sense in his range is T9 - maybe he got station with Q9/QT too but we dont know that. just too many 2 pair combos make sense to me, and not enough air. i'd fold.A3: i expect t60 cbet range on this board to typically be pretty tight. don't think your hand does that well vs the range that continues vs ur c/r. i'd just c/c and reevaluate. KT: wierd. considering how few hands make sense to me that he can have, the general spaziness postflop of the average player at really short eff stx (correct spaziness in a lot of ways), and the fact ur ahead of some of his 54s 56s type stuff if he decided to flat that - i'd prob get it in. u need 39% equity vs his range...just not enough makes sense for me to fold.A7: the average player really c/r this type board with such a tight range. also, a lot of the hands he c/r have blockers to your outs (98, combo draw type stuff, plus u can be dominated some). i'd prob flat since a lot of players will shut down "scare card" turns like a Q when they have 8x and what not. think u get to see enough rivers to justify flatting.if u think ur getting c/r wide then cbet/get-it-in86: looks goodAQ: looks goodQ6: again, avg player really doesn't c/r light much. i'd fold. if you find you are getting c/r a lot, start checking back these medium strength hands that don't face a c/r well - but can call turn/river leads. so basicaly polarize your cbet range between hands that face a c/r well and total air. the avg player just doesnt c/r much air tho, so just cbet them to death until u have reason to do otherwiseT7: looks like a pretty good stacksize to donkbet and 3bet jam a raise. i think the average villain gets it in lighter vs a donk/3bet at this stacksize than vs a c/r (also, people dont cbet these boards that wide, so ur prob not doing fantastic c/r anyways)as played i'd just jam the turn97: this probably isn't a flop that people cbet all that wide on. it's close, but i'd c/c and reevaluate turns. if he was cbetting light i'd just chk/shove.97: i'd just be 3bet shove or folding 97o this short. as played, def a chk/shove 

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Thx good shit.

Some requests:I have heard some rumors that you promised someone to write an article about donkbetting in raised pots and leading in limped pots, I would also really enjoy an article about that. I'm also pretty intersted in why and when to donkbet turns after I have ch called on the flop?Another is when should I donkbet bluff both turn and river when flop has gone check check?      

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i'm not going to be doing

i'm not going to be doing many articles. it's not really a strength of mine, and it requires a bunch of time. i'm happy to answer any questions in personal threads though. i think this post from bacon's thread sums up my basic approach to donkbetting well. please ask any more questions you have, or post hands:"Another thing i used to think about a lot was the the spot to donk readless, i asked about and i got nobody who could give me a concise description of their readless donking strategy, (other than your nugget of donking wet flops with gutshots, the only spot i think warrants it). but i think realised donking kinda shouldnt be done readless (in raised pots) but should likely be one of the first adjustments we make in face of a less than aggressive opponent, for example if i see someone check back any ace high flop or 2-3 dry flops thats me going donk crazy with a value and bluff range, kinda using my perception of spots which i consider mandatory cbets for say 80%+ of villains range to extrapolate that their will be a lot of checking back.Not just wet boards with gutshots. Think about how your hand plays if you c/c or c/r and then compare that to donkbetting. I think when you think about more situations this way it should be more clear.QT6hh flop we flatted K3hh oop. 24bb stacks. options: check/call - definitely +ev, we do get barreled off some though. when we hit a lot of villains will be shutting down their value range a ton due to scare card (also the K is a card most villains shut down on too), so it will be hard to get a lot of value. check/raise - marginally +ev to +ev, if villain is cbetting a really wide range this will be our best option since we get value from the fold equity we have with his wide cbetting range. most villains dont cbet this board that wide though, so i dont think this is the best option typically. we will have maybe 40-45% equity vs the typical stacking off range if our c/r get jammed on probably, so not that great.donkbet (and donk/3bet) - best option if villain isnt cbetting really wide. most villains respect a donkbet less than a c/r on a board like this, so the range that continues flatting or raising us we should be doing better against than vs a c/r. if our donkbet gets raised we can comfortably 3bet jam - no awkward turn stack size situations like when our c/r gets flatted. also we take initiative away from villain, his flatting range should be relatively weak on a wet board like this so we will still have some opportunities to barrel off as a bluff unimproved. some other hands that i would donkbet (again, if someone is cbetting really wide on all boards then i think donkbetting is far less relavent): also, depending on stack sizes these can bet donkbet/calls or donkbet/3bets - most of them will be donk/3bets since stacks are short in super turbo and ranges will be wider bc of that, deeper stack games you can bet call some of them more.T9 on 872 86 on 752QJ on 982JThh on 752h (overs+backdoor fd)87 on J94"your other questions are so broad though, especially the 2nd one...would be better if you posted some hands, since each situation is so different.this is a good example of a turn i would be leading:c/c a cbet with Q5 on QJ4 --- turn is a Qa lot of villains are checking back their JX, draws, A high on this turn to get to a cheap showdown - but if we lead they aren't folding many of those hands so there is a lot more value in a lead than a check. i would check here if i feel my opponent 2 barrels a bunch of barrels for value really thin, but i think thats pretty rare on this board texture.

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Alright

Alright I'll try to find some hands later and post them.''this is a good example of a turn i would be leading: c/c a cbet with Q5 on QJ4 --- turn is a Q a lot of villains are checking back their JX, draws, A high on this turn to get to a cheap showdown - but if we lead they aren't folding many of those hands so there is a lot more value in a lead than a check. i would check here if i feel my opponent 2 barrels a bunch of barrels for value really thin, but i think thats pretty rare on this board texture.''So I take it that you mostly donk turns when you don't think it's that likely for him to barrel of?What about donk bluffing turn after you have ch called flop? Some more exampels would be great feels like I'm learning alot by them.

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Hand Histories yaaaaaaaaaaay

No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero420  BBDonk King1580  Effective Stacks: 14bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, Donk King1 calls 30    Flop (120, 2 players) Donk King1 checks, Hero bets 60, Donk King1 raises to 150    Final Pot: 330Thoughts?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBwalchy18540  BBHero460  Effective Stacks: 12bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is BB walchy18 raises to 80, Hero calls 40    Flop (160, 2 players) Hero checks, walchy18 bets 60    Final Pot: 220Not much info on this guy, seems to play kinda standard.What's your plans for this whole hand?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero470  BBweppiewoop530  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, weppiewoop raises to 120, Hero calls 80    Flop (240, 2 players) weppiewoop bets 188, Hero folds    Final Pot: 428So 3rd hand into the game. I'm kinda scared vs a 3b t120 but A9s is a super strong hand.What hands do you flat and what hands do you 4b shove readless vs a 3b t120?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBtruesyalose570  BBHero430  Effective Stacks: 22bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB truesyalose raises to 40, Hero raises to 100, truesyalose calls 60    Flop (200, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 330, truesyalose folds    Final Pot: 530humm this flop hits his range a ton. But at the same time I got two overs a gutshot and a backdoor flushdraw.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBmoises augus620  SBHero380  Effective Stacks: 19bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, moises augus calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) moises augus checks, Hero bets 40, moises augus calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) moises augus checks, Hero bets 90, moises augus raises to 340    Final Pot: 590So I guess I'm getting pretty good odds to call here, but say we were a little bit deeper what would you do?His line feels super strong.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero440  SBanauna560  Effective Stacks: 22bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB anauna raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, anauna bets 40, Hero calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) Hero checks, anauna checks    River (160, 2 players) Hero checks, anauna checks    Final Pot: 160First hand in the match would you play it the same?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero500  BBRebewneil500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Rebewneil calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Rebewneil checks, Hero bets 40, Rebewneil calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) Rebewneil checks, Hero checks    River (160, 2 players) Rebewneil bets 83, Hero folds    Final Pot: 243First hand readless how would you play it?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero360  BBitsmeyow640  Effective Stacks: 18bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, itsmeyow calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) itsmeyow checks, Hero bets 40, itsmeyow raises to 80    Final Pot: 200Early in the game, just hate this spot what's your plan for flop and future streets?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBlucker112460  SBHero540  Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, lucker112 calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) lucker112 checks, Hero bets 40, lucker112 calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) lucker112 checks, Hero bets 100    Final Pot: 260Hum I guess my reasoning for betting here cause I think alot of people flat flop and fold  to a 2nd barrel with K high and stuff. Not to confident about my play here :P.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHenrique.P500  BBHero500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Henrique.P raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, Henrique.P bets 40, Hero calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) Hero checks, Henrique.P checks    River (160, 2 players) Hero bets 100, Henrique.P folds    Final Pot: 260So what do you think about donking turn vs ch calling turn?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero500  BBharsh.apple500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, harsh.apple calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) harsh.apple checks, Hero bets 40, harsh.apple calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) harsh.apple checks, Hero bets 90, harsh.apple calls 90    River (340, 2 players) harsh.apple goes all-in 330    Final Pot: 670First hand in the game.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBCourtsa470  SBHero530  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Courtsa calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Courtsa checks, Hero bets 40, Courtsa calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) Courtsa checks, Hero bets 100, Courtsa calls 100    River (360, 2 players) Courtsa checks, Hero goes all-in 350    Final Pot: 710Standard triple barrel?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHapySisyphus610  SBHero390  Effective Stacks: 20bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, HapySisyphus calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) HapySisyphus checks, Hero bets 40, HapySisyphus raises to 120, Hero calls 80    Turn (320, 2 players) HapySisyphus bets 160, Hero folds    Final Pot: 480Hate these situations, not much info he seems to be more of a loose player than tight one.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBelososassano450  BBHero550  Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB elososassano calls 10, Hero raises to 60, elososassano calls 40    Flop (120, 2 players) Hero bets 60, elososassano raises to 220    Final Pot: 400This guy has limped a couple of hands.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero505  SBSlay_a1495  Effective Stacks: 12bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is BB Slay_a1 raises to 80, Hero calls 40    Flop (160, 2 players) Hero checks, Slay_a1 bets 80, Hero calls 80    Turn (320, 2 players) Hero checks, Slay_a1 checks    River (320, 2 players) Hero bets 160, Slay_a1 folds    Final Pot: 480This guy is pretty tight preflop so i decided to flat. What about donking turn vs checking hoping for a bet?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBkalmafilter500  BBHero500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB kalmafilter raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, kalmafilter bets 40, Hero calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) Hero checks, kalmafilter bets 120, Hero goes all-in 420, kalmafilter folds    Final Pot: 700Pretty standard flat with A3o early in the match, kinda debating flating and letting him barrel vs a CR's.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBBagrovui500  BBHero500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Bagrovui raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, Bagrovui bets 44, Hero calls 44    Turn (168, 2 players) Hero checks, Bagrovui bets 92, Hero calls 92    River (352, 2 players) Hero checks, Bagrovui bets 193, Hero goes all-in 324, Bagrovui goes all-in 131    Final Pot: 1000 Bagrovui shows a pair of Aces Hero shows two pair, Queens and Eights  I think cr's ai on the turn would have been better especially with all the draws out there.Discuss... =)     No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBfrancisclope640  BBHero360  Effective Stacks: 18bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB francisclope raises to 40, Hero calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, francisclope bets 40, Hero calls 40   Turn (160, 2 players) Hero bets 100, francisclope calls 100   River (360, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 180, francisclope folds   Final Pot: 540So again a hand where I'm debating between a donk or ch on the turn. 

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updating this later today.

updating this later today.

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So I take it that you mostly

So I take it that you mostly donk turns when you don't think it's that likely for him to barrel of?What about donk bluffing turn after you have ch called flop? Some more exampels would be great feels like I'm learning alot by them.ya leading for value almost entirely readless. would need more specific reads to have a turn donk bluffing range. one big problem with semi-bluff donking the turn (we are going to want to be donking equity barring some very specific reads/situations) is that at <75 bb stack sizes, if villain raises our turn bet it's often going to be to a size that we are going to have to fold to.so i really don't like the idea of c/c Q5hh on K64hh then donking a 2c/7c/Jc turn for example bc of the risk of getting blown off our hand by a turn raise - and we are likely to get correct odds to call a turn bet when we c/c. so you might think "well what if villain is cbetting this board wide and we have 75 or 87 and the turn is a complete brick" - well against a 80%+ cbettor approx we should have been c/r bluffing this flop with a ton of fold equity, as opposed to allowing him to realize free turn equity with a wide/undefined range.here's a situation where i'd very likely run a bluff:playing a good thinking player. we c/c villains cbet on A K 7r with Q T (25 or75 bb stacks, it should work ok either way). turn is a 7. we lead 50% and villain calls. river is a 2 we overbet about 125% pot. if your opponent is capable of handreading decent, and you don't have a wildly creative/active image - i think this can be a really fantastic bluff line and you will get a bunch of folds from AX/KX.hope that helps.

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fwiw i like leading the turn

fwiw i like leading the turn 50% in that last example for 2 reasons: 1) to encourage him to turn his 7X hands face up. i think against a bigger bet most people will be more likely to flat and allow me to continue rivers, but vs 50%ish they feel more need to "build the pot" with a raise (decent/good thinking players are less likely to do this bc raising is bordering on terrible but i still think it works out better than a bigger lead) 2) gets called by a wider turn range (KX) that would otherwise fold to a larger bet possibly. 

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Oky thanks

Oky thanks I think I understand it a little bit better now =). 

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No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero550  BBBaquicK450  Effective Stacks: 23bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, BaquicK calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) BaquicK checks, Hero bets 40, BaquicK raises to 100, Hero calls 60    Turn (280, 2 players) BaquicK bets 100, Hero goes all-in 410    Final Pot: 790He flats över 50% oops and 3bet 18%. He got a cr at 24%.I think his cr t100 could be anything from a complete bluff, Ax, Twopair, Flushdraw, straightdraw, 9x and so on.How would you play it?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$196.66+$3.34 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero490  SBBaquicK510  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB BaquicK raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, BaquicK bets 40, Hero calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) Hero checks, BaquicK bets 80, Hero calls 80    River (320, 2 players) Hero checks, BaquicK goes all-in 350, Hero folds    Final Pot: 670Same guy he opens around 60% and cbet 60%, should I just cr get it in on the flop?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBClown575570  SBHero430  Effective Stacks: 22bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Clown575 calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Clown575 checks, Hero bets 40, Clown575 raises to 100, Hero calls 60    Turn (280, 2 players) Clown575 bets 100    Final Pot: 380Early in the game no particular reads more than that he seems pretty normal.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBmickop570  BBHero430  Effective Stacks: 14bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB mickop raises to 60, Hero calls 30    Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, mickop checks    Turn (120, 2 players) Hero bets 60, mickop calls 60    River (240, 2 players) Hero checks, mickop checks    Final Pot: 240Playing a against a reg who opens pretty a wide range and cbet wide as well.I don't think a he opens wide enough to make a 3b ai better than a flat. Anyways when I donk the turn should I bet on the river as well in this spot?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero480  BBWeirdAl23520  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, WeirdAl23 calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) WeirdAl23 checks, Hero bets 40, WeirdAl23 calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) WeirdAl23 checks, Hero bets 100, WeirdAl23 goes all-in 440    Final Pot: 700So now I have to bet fold, is this a standard double barrel?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero560  SBramyon440  Effective Stacks: 22bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB ramyon raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, ramyon bets 50, Hero raises to 120    Final Pot: 250Readless would you CR this flop? Now he cbets 50 instead of 40 but lets say he cbet 40 instead.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero545  BBramyon455  Effective Stacks: 15bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, ramyon calls 30    Flop (120, 2 players) ramyon checks, Hero bets 60, ramyon raises to 120    Final Pot: 300He flats pretty wide preflop and CR's around 30%.What's your plan for this hand?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBmagggo410  SBHero590  Effective Stacks: 21bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, magggo calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) magggo checks, Hero bets 40, magggo goes all-in 370    Final Pot: 490He seems like a pretty loose player.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBBaquicK500  BBHero500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB BaquicK raises to 40, Hero calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, BaquicK bets 40, Hero calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) Hero checks, BaquicK checks    River (160, 2 players) Hero bets 100, BaquicK folds    Final Pot: 260He opens 60%, cbets 60%. What do you think about donking this flop?  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero530  BBBaquicK470  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, BaquicK calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) BaquicK checks, Hero bets 40, BaquicK calls 40    Turn (160, 2 players) BaquicK checks, Hero checks    River (160, 2 players) BaquicK checks, Hero checks    Final Pot: 160Don't like my play here, I guess I just checked cause I was afraid of the flush.  No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$98.12+$1.88 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBtangarana410  BBHero590  Effective Stacks: 21bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB tangarana raises to 40, Hero calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, tangarana checks   Turn (80, 2 players) Hero bets 60, tangarana calls 60   River (200, 2 players) Hero bets 120   Final Pot: 320This is vs a pretty LAG fish. Not sure about when to donk both turn and river after a flop ch ch.What parameters should I look in order to know if a ch or bet is bet in these spots? 

Champaz's picture
bumping

bumping this, gonna take a break from Fasttrack this november so really want you to answer my HH's before my time is up.

hokiegreg's picture
hey ya i emailed you fwiw.

hey ya i emailed you fwiw. thought ur access was up yesterday, lol. sent to ur gmail.

Champaz's picture
aha saw that email now.

Well thank you for this time and I might be back later. Also please delete my thread after you have sent me the HH's review.

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