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Laroutchezxz's picture
AJo Raise over a limp 25BB deep

This is a hand from a 23$ turbo on PS and he is not a maniac or loose. 

1) Can I just limp back or AJo is simply too strong to not raise over a limp 26BB deep

2) Maybe my raise  size is a little big ??  (preflop)

3) I tried to take it down on the flop. Is it decent? (board texture against limp call) For the rest of the hand, I think I played bad and hope to have some comments and help about. 

BB Hero 1295  
SB goldrush30 1705  

Effective Stacks: 26bb

Blinds 25/50

  • Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB
  • hAdJ
goldrush30 calls 25, Hero raises to 175, goldrush30 calls 125
  • Flop (350, 2 players)
  • h2hTdQ
Hero bets 200, goldrush30 calls 200
  • Turn (750, 2 players)
  • c5
Hero checks, goldrush30 bets 200, Hero calls 200
  • River (1150, 2 players)
  • c2
Hero checks, goldrush30 bets 300, Hero folds

 

  • Final Pot: 1450
 
Laroutchezxz's picture
Same kind of raise over a

Same kind of raise over a limp but we are deeper. Villain was loose, calling station tendencies.
Can I have some comments about this hand , assuming we are playing a loose calling station .What to think about this flop vs his limp/call preflop range.

 

BB
Hero
1500
 

SB
nanicho
1500
 

Effective Stacks: 50bb
Blinds 15/30

  • Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB

nanicho calls 15, Hero raises to 100, nanicho calls 70

  • Flop (200, 2 players)

Hero checks, nanicho bets 90, Hero raises to 270, nanicho calls 180

  • Turn (740, 2 players)

Hero checks, nanicho checks

  • River (740, 2 players)

Hero checks, nanicho bets 270, Hero calls 270

 

  • Final Pot: 1280
  • Hero shows
  • nanicho shows a straight, Deuce to Six
  • nanicho wins 1280 ( won +640 )
  • Hero lost -640
xSCWx's picture
In the first one on the

In the first one on the river you only have to win with a call 21% of the time to see a profit. With how many draws missed I think that folding here is a big mistake.

Blennus's picture
in hand 1 i would make it

in hand 1 i would make it 150 pre, but 175 seems ok and i agree with xscwx that you have to call the river.

Hand 2 i would never c/r here, i would cbet (i expect a station to call w/ many worse hands) or c/c depending on his tendencies

 

Nomboo's picture
wow

in the first hand I would call the river

2nd hand, there is not much you can do, surprising that nanicho called your raise with 52o

Laroutchezxz's picture
Generally, at low stake (11

Generally, at low stake (11 to 23) If I identify someone as a calling station , his limp call range is often 100% imo. We have to deal with that when playing low stakes. So I raise for value over limps  with goods hands. My plan is to extract max value when I hit and be very carefull when I don't. Is this sound good even if we are OOP?

Thank for comments!!

Nomboo's picture
Preflop I agree but postflop

Preflop I agree but postflop it is tough if you don't flop a pair.

As a general rule slow down if you don't have a pair by the turn with hands like AT+, KQ, KJ against a callining station who can't fold any pair. I have played against someone who can call a good sized river bet on QJ763 with 46o. So basically don't bloat the pot when you don't have a pair

vald3s's picture
I think it would be better

I think it would be better if you leave the pot smaller.

I usually raise less t125 at (25-50) you still threat a good portion of his stack, and you dont bloat the pot OOP and face a lot of tough spots and don't even cbet that often, because I find in my games I get called way too loose and the pot get really big with a marginal hand a lot of the time, soo keep the pot small and villain will give you often the right information.