im yet to catch up on some videos.but never seen much on 3x raising in these games.apart from earlyer videos explaining find out which raise is weaker 3x or 2x and attack it.seen some dangerous players (good winning graphs) with an early opening 3x rasing + 3x raise folding range.this is obviously profitable and exploting players (as ive seen much of this play from winners)... how best should this be aplied? without players picking up on reads...... is this a play that is based on attacking fish rather than regs, or one based on good maths decitions. any info on this play would be great. as it has me a little stumped as to weather i sould tighten up on it, or shove wider on it.3x good hands a better play 20,25 bb than the min raise?
3xing in general at 25bb is going to be a leak against someone competent. You're risking 3bb with a weak button range and giving the villain a great risk/reward ratio on a 3b jam. 2xing makes sense because you lose the minimum when you fold to a 3bet, but when called you can still get stacks into the pot by the river. 3xing this short would be an exploitative adjustment to someone who calls in the bb too often. We can increase the amount he puts into the pot with a weak range, and if he's folding too much postflop we win a large pot frequently without fear of losing too much preflop because he won't 3bet us enough. So basically, if I wanted to generalize, 3xing is better against fish and terrible against almost any reg. You could make a case for 2.2xing or 2.5xing against some regs who call too wide, but i can't think of any winning reg that calls so much and 3bets so rarely that 3xing would be good against them. If you think the players at your limit call too much in the bb, try 2.5xing from the start and see if they 3bet you a lot. If not, you might've found a good adjustment to the population.Facing a 3x you need to decide if his range is stronger than usual before you tighten or widen your 3betting range. You're winning more when he folds so if you think his 3xing range is exactly the same as your average villains 2xing range, you could widen your 3bet jamming range to include hands you would normally only shove at shorter stacks. To make adjusting your range easier, if he raises to 60 instead of 40 at 10/20 the pot is now 80 instead of 60, so its as if the blinds are slightly higher (13.5/27 roughly) and instead of 500 chips being 25 bbs its now a little under 20bb. So if you have an idea of what you jam at just under 20bb against a minraise, you know what you should jam at 25bb against a 3x, assuming his range hasn't changed.
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I find 3xers atrocious, and annoying, and rarely find it as a good thing. However, if a very few ocassions vs a villains who call BB way to wide, I noticed that once I started 3xing them they tightened up considerably. But I did it mostly when blinds got bigger (15/30 and 20/40), since it was quite obnoxious to get all of your minraises flatted.
this was at th 60$ level.i jamed K,J on his early 3x and he had a hand A,Q.then i jammed J,8s on his 3x early game and he folded.so this play he was using had a mixed 3x range, of call and fold hands.which is why i was wondering where this play fitted into a winning regs game, and if there was something i didnt no.i guess it was an attack on weather i could adjust, rather than a standard play. thanks for taking the time to help me out with this one. :)
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