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happyham's picture
$30 vs thinking player. Am I a station?

BB: 1,625.00 Hero (SB): 1,375.00 Hero posts SB 15.00, BB posts BB 30.00 Pre Flop: (45.00) Hero has Ac 4d Hero raises to 60.00, BB calls 30.00 Flop: (120.00, 2 players) Jh 3s Js BB checks, Hero bets 60.00, BB calls 60.00 Turn: (240.00, 2 players) 8d BB bets 120.00, Hero calls 120.00 River: (480.00, 2 players) 4c BB bets 320.00, Hero calls 320.00  Seems the easiest way for me to post the HH.   Villain was a winning player over a small sample of games, but definitely was a thinking player.  He played approx 45% of hands out of position, so wasn't calling with complete junk.  His check raise range on flops was pretty weak I had found out.  I had 3 bet him a few times and he had folded.  His strongest line was flatting the flop, then leading out on turns.  He had done this with flopped top pairs, and two pairs.  It was almost like for protection that he would lead out if the board was getting scary.  So at this point I had already won a match or two, and was kind of running well/running him over.  My thinking was when he flat calls the flop and leads the turn, he either has Jx, or a flush draw/air. Even though I had seen him only do this with value hands, I believe he could be trying to take advantage of this because he was getting run over. I hate to say it but when he bet the river, I snap called.  His sizing seemed pretty big if he was trying to get value.  Although I suppose if I had 8X it would be hard to lay it down to any size.  The point was he was never thin value betting, so all 8X, 3X, 4X was out of his range.  He was polarized in my opinion. 

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Board: Jh 3s Js 8d 4cDead: 

Board: Jh 3s Js 8d 4cDead:      equity     win     tie           pots won     pots tied    Hand 0:     28.614%      28.31%     00.30%                 47             0.50   { Ac4d }Hand 1:     71.386%      71.08%     00.30%                118             0.50   { 33+, A8s+, As7s, As6s, As5s, As4s, A3s, As2s, KsQs, KJs, KsTs, Ks9s, K8s, Ks7s, Ks6s, Ks5s, Ks4s, Ks3s, Ks2s, QJs, QsTs, Qs9s, Qs8s, J7s+, Ts9s, AJo+, A8o, KJo, QJo, J7o+ }If we give villain this generous range he continues with and given the fact that he may be polarized on river, our call is pretty much breakeven. Though, if he does this line with value hands only, your call is pretty much bad. Amirite?