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$10 - Overpair Vs Flop 4-Bet Shove

I've only played four hands with  villain, so no reads.

Hand #1:

Full Tilt Poker, $10 + $0.50 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 10/20 Blinds, 2 Players

BB: 1,500
Hero (SB): 1,500

Pre-Flop: (30) J 9 dealt to Hero (SB)
Hero raises to 60, BB calls 40

Flop: (120) 8 2 7 (2 Players)
BB bets 120, Hero folds

Results: 120 Pot
BB mucked and WON 120 (+60 NET)

 

Hand #4:

Full Tilt Poker, $10 + $0.50 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 10/20 Blinds, 2 Players

SB: 1,490
Hero (BB): 1,510

Pre-Flop: (30) J J dealt to Hero (BB)
SB calls 10, Hero raises to 60, SB calls 40

Flop: (120) 6 5 9 (2 Players)
Hero bets 80, SB raises to 160, Hero raises to 600, SB raises to 1,430 and is All-In, Hero ??

I'm either crushed here or ahead against a decent draw, right? But without a read, Is a fold standard here? Seems kind of weak but a call seems kind of spewy :-\

I think I should have just called his flop raise rather than build the pot and end up in a situation like this.

 

xSCWx's picture
Hand 1 I am at least

Hand 1 I am at least calling. You aren't in terrible shape against top pair with your overs+gutshot and if you improve you can valuetown him but if you miss he can't valuetown you. Also, the donk bets where they lead out after you raise preflop tend to be weak because most players would check/raise their strong hands to get value from a cbet. On the other hand, some players like to donk low top pairs because they want to protect it, so it isn't always weak.
Hand 4 you can't fold after coming over the top of his raise. If you have any doubt about being able to get this in then you need to be flatting his first raise. At this point you only have to win it like ~25% of the time and he could easily be getting it in with 9X or any sort of combo draw where you are slightly ahead.

1690 AD's picture
yeah what xscwx said, i

yeah what xscwx said, i call flop on hand 1 and you cannot 3 bet fold here esp with your sizing