No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players
$330+$15
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| BB | caaaaamel | 1420 | |
| SB | Hero | 1580 |
Effective Stacks: 71bb
Blinds 10/20
Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)
Hero is SB
Hero raises to 40, caaaaamel raises to 120, Hero calls 80
Flop (240, 2 players)
caaaaamel bets 120, Hero raises to 300, caaaaamel calls 180
Turn (840, 2 players)
caaaaamel checks, Hero checks
River (840, 2 players)
caaaaamel checks, Hero goes all-in 1160, caaaaamel goes all-in 1000
Final Pot: 3000
caaaaamel shows a pair of Nines
Hero shows a pair of Sevens
caaaaamel wins 2840 ( won +1420 )
Hero lost -1420
The hand is against a good reg. This is the third hand or so. He often has two ways of playing, one where he 3bets a ton and one where he 3bets very little(no this is not why I think he multiaccounts lol(see prahlad friedman)). I don't know yet what he is doing today. I feel I have been playing too fit/fold in 3bet pots because he cbet/folds around 65% of the time in 3bet pots, so I figured this was a place to try it. When he calls I think he has a lot of weak stuff. I think he would throw in another raise on the flop with most good value since he would not expect me to raise/fold much at all. The flop is definitely very very suspicious for me to raise however since I have been very in-line lately I don't think he will play back with hands that miss.
I check back turn.
on river he checks again, so I ship hoping for him to call with A4, A5, A2, AK, AQ, or other trashy 5s or 2s. When he switches to 3betting a lot he has no criteria, K2, J3, 42o etc. I just think he would bet most hands that beat me on the river, and the ones that check I should beat? I look like I bluffed the flop and then hit weak showdown value and I feel like he should know that.
Not a very good hand just found one quick to create the thread.
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Why would he not expect you to raise/fold this flop? It's a very bluffable flop and he should expect you to have at least some air on it. I actually think I basically never 3bet this flop in his position - you should have air where it plays a lot better to flat and versus hands that are valueraising this flop to get it in, you don't lose a whole lot by calling and checking on the turn because they're going to continue to try to get it in a ton of the time.A lot to talk about in this hand - will continue later tonight.
So yeah, I think that "when he calls, I think he has a lot of weak stuff, I think he would throw in another raise on the flop with most good value" is too strong of an assumption. I think it's optimal to flat your big hands if you're him vs you: It does a lot better when you're light and when you do have Jx+ that's strong enough to raise/get it in, I don't think it makes a big difference at all, because you're betting turn for value a ton too if you're strong enough to get it in on the flop. And in terms of balance, it helps to protect the weaker hands in his range so that they have better equtiy in the hand because you can't barrell off so wildly.I think the river jam is really suboptimal: You're trying to fold out an extremely narrow range of hands: 88/99/TT/weak Jx. Even though I assume he would bet river with a lot of his better hands, your flop raise is pretty polarizing, and he may very well think that his best chance of getting value is checking again and repping a weak hand.It's weird to raise this flop and check the turn with a value hand. You're repping a FPS way of playing the hand for value, and given the fact that that super narrow range of hands is only folding sometimes, I think it's much better just to check behind.Back to the flop: When you raise, especially to this size, you're repping a pretty narrow value range yourself: Strong jacks/55/22. I think a better way to contest this pot is to float: It's what you'd do with your medium jacks anyway and it's actually easier to put you on total air if you raise than if you flat. It depends on his double barrel frequency but it's something to think about. Especially if you've been playing fit or fold.One last thought for now: I think you got to this river and then decided a jam was good. I think a much better line, if you thought that a jam was good if he checks the river, is to bet small-ish on the turn and jam the river. That more realistically represents big value hands and just doesn't look like a very bluffy line because it seems like your turn bet isn't at all designed to push him out. I wouldn't suggest it on this turn for the same reasons I don't suggest jamming the river as played, I think we're trying to fold out too narrow of a range compared to what will call once we hit second pair. But my point is that thinking the entire hand through makes that a more credible bluff line rather than just deciding on the river. On turn cards that don't improve you, I think small-ish on the turn jam the river is going to be the best way to bluff.
Regarding floating, yeah he double barrels a good amount, but I also felt that he was folding a lot to my flop-valueraises in 3betpots, so I figured it would be good to bluffraise some also.Actually the river jam was for value, I guess that misunderstanding illustrates how bad the hand is. I really thought he would valuebet 88-TT and Jx on the river when the turn is checked through, so I wanted him to call with his worse than that hands.. obviously when he does go ahead and check 99 to me there my shove is no good ever.
I was eating dinner tonight with some friends and suddenly thought, "I didn't finish all of Xereles' reads before I started commenting. I wonder...was his shove for value?" :) If he valuebets 88-TT (and even Jx) on the river it's because he's putting you pretty much exactly on 7x. Your flop raise is very polarizing, and it does best against your range to check the river because the vast majority of worse hands are air, unless he really thinks you're like raise/calling (or raise/folding) 5x on the flop or something like that which would be non-std.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$330+$15 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBSpeckBasu1320 SBHero1680 Effective Stacks: 26bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 100, SpeckBasu calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) SpeckBasu checks, Hero bets 100, SpeckBasu calls 100 Turn (400, 2 players) SpeckBasu checks, Hero bets 250, SpeckBasu goes all-in 1120, Hero calls 870 River (2640, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 2640 SpeckBasu shows a pair of Fours Hero shows two pair, Sixes and Fours Hero wins 2640 ( won +1320 ) SpeckBasu lost -1320Against decent but not that good reg. I expect him to 3betshove low pocket pairs and 3bet AT+, KJ+, 99+ preflop. On the flop I expect him to raise decent aces because of stack depth but he might flat the worst ones. On the turn I think he can have a few pocket pairs, 77-88 that decides I barrel here a lot (I do, but not sure I have vs him) and therefore jams. Could also be slowplayed stuff. Or low Ax that paired up or just decides he has to raise there for value. Also 53s I guess, he would flat that pre. Other than that there is gutters and flushdraws.I bet turn because I feel he has so few aces by this point, so I may get him to spew with mainly Kx or 4x, maybe other weird floats. Is this line ok? Is this enough reasoning to call it off or do I need additional reads?
96 hand: You know this, but the biggest parts of this are whether he would check/raise a lot of his Ax on the flop, and whether remaining Ax would check/call turn to try to get you to barrel off (likely thinking you would bet Ax a third time on the river if checked to, as well). On this particular turn card it doesn't improve a single other speculative hand except for 53s as you mention, and I'm totally fine with getting it in here especially if he has some bluffing creativity to him (even if limited to probably dumb stuff like this) and some bluff catch to him rather than just "herp derp I have an ace I raise turn because I trapped u". I'm perfectly good with your reasoning if it goes along with those two things.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$220+$10 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1420 BBpcp8881580 Effective Stacks: 71bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, pcp888 calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) pcp888 checks, Hero bets 60, pcp888 calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) pcp888 checks, Hero bets 160, pcp888 calls 160 River (560, 2 players) pcp888 checks, Hero bets 420, pcp888 calls 420 Final Pot: 1400 Hero shows a pair of Fives pcp888 shows two pair, Jacks and Fives pcp888 wins 1400 ( won +700 ) Hero lost -700 I felt like this was a decent spot to barrel off however it was fairly early in the game.. Opponent is a fish. I think this is bad because it is 10-15 hands into the game, but is it terrible overall? I feel like I could also just stop after the turn barrel, I should have gotten Kx and Ax hands out of the way by now, but I'm unsure whether aiming to fold out just the 3 and stubborn Ax on river is worth it? He folded a decent amount to cbets however I expect most people to call with Ax/KQ/KJ and 3x on this flop.
A2: People (especially fish) float with their two overs way too much here for me to like barreling off when we have the best hand a decent amount of the time especially on the turn. I think it's a good barrel spot otherwise (if we had 7c6x or something), people are generally not taking this line with 5x/flushes as you note.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$330+$15 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBJackpot 7\'s1260 SBHero1740 Effective Stacks: 63bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, Jackpot 7\'s calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) Jackpot 7\'s checks, Hero bets 60, Jackpot 7\'s raises to 260, Hero calls 200 Turn (640, 2 players) Jackpot 7\'s goes all-in 940, Hero calls 940 River (2520, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 2520 Jackpot 7\'s shows a pair of Eights Hero shows a straight, Five to Nine Hero wins 2520 ( won +1260 ) Jackpot 7\'s lost -1260 First couple of hands, fish opponent. Do I kill my value from too many hands by just flatting here? some scarecards could potentially scare him away and it is rare for people to bluffcheckraise these flops anyways. What 3betsizing is good if I do 3bet?
Definitely dislike flatting the nuts on that flop vs a fish who raises that size. With some reads that he loves to do this and then make a huge turn bet for value or for bluff a ton of the time, it can be fine, but too many cards make it difficult for you to get paid off in full. It feels so "lol", but I think a 4bet to 480 is the best option, of course it's transparent but it just doesn't matter, he can continue with his random gutter draw too, and fish aren't folding whatever they check/raised for value/because they have equity.
Struggling a lot against a regspeed player who I really think is pretty bad. Had a 5 game loss streak vs him today. Usually I quit if I lose 2-3 games after the same "reg" but I believed I was doing good vs him so I continued. Won one back and he quit, of course. In general he cbets 37%, calls preflop 35%, raises preflop 75%, 3bets only 19% - however he varies a lot here, sometimes he 3bets 4-5 times in a row, then waits until he has TT+ AQ+ and hopes I will still jam 33+ etc over him. I'm conflicted on how to approach his no-cbetting. In Skates videos he claimed that if his opponent didn't cbet he had already won, so he saw no need to create a donking range or anything of the sort.Against this player I have tried constructing a donking range middle pair+ as well as gutshots, however it gets tough when he raises my donks a lot(always. He has been very tight lately so I second barrel a huge amount, which is working out very well. After he checks back I often have trouble pinpointing his hand on turn/river when I have a legit hand but he applies more pressure. Sometimes he also traps of course.I'm just rambling right now, will post some hand histories against the player later today or tomorrow but this is what I'm trying to work on this week.As a question in general, is creating a donkbetting range a must? Or can I create a strategy just responding to his turn/river actions after checking back the flop?
I'm guessing his c-betting range his just really polarized? A lot of no showdown value junk and big hands, checking back all the middling Ace high/king high/bottom pair/middle pair type stuff? Just want to check before I answer.
It's more along the lines of he usually cbets nearly every paired board and every Ax board(with Ax, Kx, air, usually checks back lower pairs, for example 9x on A93r board), other boards he checks back all the time nearly, sometimes cbets strong good pairs but he also checks them back to trap. I don't think the stat is all that accurate, it is probably inflated by late stages 25/50 or low bbs 15/30 where he raises a stronger range and limps a lot, here he cbets almost every time, but most of our play is when 50-70bb deep, since it is a stars regspeed.Edit: On boards where he checks back a lot, he always checks back, his entire range.
ok, a few things to start with.One of the biggest reason why it's good to c-bet 9x and 3x on A93r board is that if you don't, your range is just so damn weak and the % of air in it is huge. You need to make sure you're check/raising those boards a good bit until he tones down his frequencies or starts c-betting 9x again - nice and small, 60 -> 160 at the most, that kind of thing. You can do the math yourself on how risking 160 to win a pot of 180 or whatever the case may be, against the percentage of his range that is not continuing hands. He'll probably start trapping Ax type stuff and trips on the paired boards but that's OK too.If he's checking back wetter boards a ton of the time, I do believe you need to develop a good donking range with those. Skates and I are like brothers who fight all the time - we're of the same mind about a lot of basic things in poker, but we disagree violently on certain points. Yes, checking behind the flop a ton means he's giving up the power of position, but that doesn't mean we can't do even more to make that disadvantageous. If you have JT on a JT7 flop and he's never c-betting a ton of his pairs, it's simply suboptimal not to donk out and that's all there is to it.I would donk a range that is quite often capable of getting raised, like strong pairs/any draws/and then throw in your no showdown value gutshots as well when appropriate. The other thing you can do with a lot of those hands (the less super strong ones) is let the flop get checked through (skates and I do agree this is often a good thing with marginal holdings OOP) and then lead a very balanced donk range on the turn with appropriate hands.
gah I really need to post here more to utilize your program more, your post are really awesome so far. Anyway I haven't played that guy again yet which sucks, but will try to create a limping range next time. When you decide to create such a range, do you start it off with a gutshot/air hand or a value hand? does it matter?Other than that Ill probably post random hands vs regs. I'm 15000$ under EV this month so my game has basically 0% confidence because I have no idea what I do right and what I do wrong, so yeah, will post a lot of hands.
I don't think it matters too much what you start of your donking range with (I think you mean that, not limping). People usually say "whatever" and fold to the first one when they have air, but may also raise more often with their draws, so I wouldn't worry about it looking too suspicious or anything like that.Sorry about the ugly EV run :( Don't let it hit your confidence too much, knowing that you're that much under EV should be a good reminder that a lot of it is just getting boned by the deck.Definitely post a lot of hands though :)
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$500+$20 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1390 BBmaclerok1610 Effective Stacks: 70bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, maclerok calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) maclerok bets 80, Hero raises to 240, maclerok calls 160 Turn (600, 2 players) maclerok checks, Hero bets 300, maclerok goes all-in 1310, Hero goes all-in 790 River (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in) Final Pot: 3000 Hero shows a pair of Kings maclerok shows two pair, Nines and Sevens maclerok wins 3000 ( won +1390 ) Hero lost -1390 Second hand of the match, I know nothing about him.. I basically bet/call turn because it is the weekend and regspeeds seems to have a ton more random bad fish than turbos, also because it is within the first 5 hands. Is it a clear fold? With this betsizing I feel like I have to call because basically every combodraw is probably shipping. I guess I could make it 420 on turn and fold to shove but I'd feel bad. I feel like I may not raise if the board had been worse, like JT9ss, I know nothing about his donking range, but on this board I feel raising is fine. What do you think?
I think bet/calling is absolutely necessary. Even against 97, the hand that he had, we're actually almost exactly priced in to call the shove! (27.2% equity against 97, needing 28.4% equity for it to be breakeven). And remember that if he's bet/calling the flop with 97, that also means that he's bet/calling the flop with 87 (which is actually now more likely given card removal). Sure, those hands may not jam over the bet that often, but they certainly will sometimes, and plenty often Qx is just going to decide it has the best hand and get it in. Additionally, our KK gives blockers to KJ so J8/86 are the only straight draws that got there and even those a bet/call on the flop is a decent stretch. I do like a bigger size on the turn (420 as you suggested), but we absolutely cannot bet/fold that size either.I also think raising this flop is 100% necessary. Against a random I'd make it a tad bigger, but your size is fine.
I guess I'm at the point of a downswing where you start seeing monsters and thinking silly stuff. I'm a bit embarrased. Anyway I'll post some non-micro/bbv hands later.
Don't get me wrong - I cringe on this turn too, just because it's so easy to imagine yourself beat. It's still correct to bet/call.Sorry about the downswing :(
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$330+$15 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBplancton1935 SBHero1065 Effective Stacks: 21bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 100, plancton calls 50 Flop (200, 2 players) plancton checks, Hero bets 100, plancton raises to 200, Hero calls 100 Turn (600, 2 players) plancton checks, Hero goes all-in 765, plancton calls 765 River (2130, 2 players, 1 all-in) Final Pot: 2130 plancton shows two pair, Kings and Sevens Hero shows a pair of Tens plancton wins 2130 ( won +1065 ) Hero lost -1065 Hand is against a bad reg. I've been opening 100% and cbetting 100% because he didn't adjust. Recently he's started checkraising flops, pretty sure with air too (as he should obv). So I don't think I can give up on this. I feel like I have decent fold equity on turn.. of course I could also check back. Not sure what is correct, I guess all it depends on really is reads on him. Sort of spoiler: Later on I found out he wasn't really checkraising light/air, just any weak toppair etc.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$330+$15 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1520 SBmikedunleavy1480 Effective Stacks: 74bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB mikedunleavy raises to 60, Hero calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, mikedunleavy bets 60, Hero calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) Hero checks, mikedunleavy checks River (240, 2 players) Hero checks, mikedunleavy bets 120, Hero calls 120 Final Pot: 480 Hero shows high card Ace mikedunleavy shows high card King Hero wins 480 ( won +240 ) mikedunleavy lost -240 Not sure why I marked this, pretty happy with it. Could have marked the wrong hand lol. Fish opponent. Could be a linecheck hand I guess. He was cbetting a lot and opening a lot preflop which should be enough to call here I think. I noted down that he didn't double barrel as I feel that's pretty valuable information, since this is a really good spot to do it.
Didn't find more hands for now.. but as a general trend I am getting skullfucked in limped pots. Do you have any videos that deal with that subject or do you know of any posts dealing with it? Pretty sure it is my biggest leak, I am down overall to 4-5 fish on the site that only limps. I feel like people never ever fold and that when i raise their limp with for example KT+, AT+ I get raised on the flop a ton, or called and have to check/fold the turn, against some people I can double barrel but most won't ever fold. It feels that with the 4x raise preflop and the cbet postflop the pot gets too big and I lose control, if that makes sense.
T9 hand: I'm really not a fan of the jam. Even bad regs know that there's very little chance you're doing this with a flush, so I really doubt he's folding Kx here. I think a far better play is to check behind and bet river if checked to again - you can fold out all his air this way too, and it helps that the flush draw came in on the turn. I don't think it's necessary to risk it all to fold out his weaker hands here. If we had a little more room to maneuver, I'd love a smaller turn bet, but that really sucks when we get jammed on so I think I prefer check behind, bet river.
With regard to the limped pots, if they are limping a lot, you really need to expand your value raising range from the BB. Something like 66+,A5s+,K7s+,Q8s+,J7s+,T7s+,97s+,A8o+,K8o+,Q8o+,J8o+,T9o, all of that JT stuff needs to be raised if your opponent is limping a healthy percentage. It'll help deal with those flops where you feel like you're missing all the time with your AK type hands and getting raised a lot.You also really need to hone in on what's happening when you check behind. What's his cbet % with air? If high, need to check/raise, if low, need to lead turns when flop gets checked through. Figure out what he's doing with his middle pair type hands and adjust accordingly. Definitely find more HHs for us to talk about.
Expanding my valuerange is really tough postflop I feel, because of the 4x raise, but it might be psychological. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$220+$10 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1085 SBbodo481915 Effective Stacks: 22bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB bodo48 calls 25, Hero checks Flop (100, 2 players) Hero checks, bodo48 bets 50, Hero calls 50 Turn (200, 2 players) Hero bets 125, bodo48 calls 125 River (450, 2 players) Hero bets 300, bodo48 folds Final Pot: 750 Hero wins 750 ( won +225 ) bodo48 lost -225 He limps around 60%, raises 10%. Unsure of whether to lead or check/call the flop. He has lead 70% so far so I think check/call is best although leading myself gives me more control I feel. I'm not sure how much he barrels so I feel leading is best on the turn. I think I should bet a little less on the turn.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$220+$10 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1510 SBbodo481490 Effective Stacks: 30bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB bodo48 calls 25, Hero checks Flop (100, 2 players) Hero bets 50, bodo48 calls 50 Turn (200, 2 players) Hero checks, bodo48 checks River (200, 2 players) Hero checks, bodo48 checks Final Pot: 200 Hero shows high card King bodo48 shows a pair of Fours bodo48 wins 200 ( won +100 ) Hero lost -100 We're a bit further into the game now, his limping % is the same. I thought about 3barreling here since he(and limpers in general) never fold the flop ever but decided against it. I think I'd def double barrel T+ turns, and I should probably triple barrel if I do. I know I don't have many details/reads here so please ask for what you think is relevant, I am not completely sure.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$220+$10 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1670 SBbodo481330 Effective Stacks: 67bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB bodo48 calls 10, Hero checks Flop (40, 2 players) Hero bets 30, bodo48 calls 30 Turn (100, 2 players) Hero bets 70, bodo48 folds Final Pot: 170 Hero wins 170 ( won +50 ) bodo48 lost -50 Not sure whether I should give up here or go for the third barrel if he does call. I feel like I have to barrel a ton more in limped pots because most of the time the range of the opponent will be weaker than in a raised pot, that should be logical right?
I feel very strongly about expanding your value raising range vs frequent limpers, you don't have to make it 4x either.With the 37: I honestly don't know whether leading or check/calling is better here readless, it's going to be close. I think your turn size is perfectly fine and perhaps even on the small side, definitely don't go smaller. Qx/9x are calling basically always and we don't want him to have proper odds to call with his flush and straight draws, which he probably does given implied odds when you bet 125 but especially smaller.
With the T7s, I like the flop to stab at (if he has J3o he folds and we never think twice about this hand), I agree with not barreling off here especially given the flush draw on the flop that is in our range. I think I'm betting turn pretty much only on those that give us additional equity.
With the T8 I think betting twice is good given how many random floats people have on this flop. I would probably not triple if called, we actually beat some draws and 9x is never folding and will be a good portion of his range after he calls twice.
Thanks. On the 73o hand I meant to say that I think I should have gone smaller on the river, not the turn. I'll try 3xing some hands instead of 4xing to limps.
Xereles, what you said about limped pots is definitely something I am struggeling with, too.The posting from Mers about expanding my BB Value raising range looks like the key.Trying to implement it instantly :-)
It's a combination of expanding value range and learning what your opponent is doing in limped pots when you check and adapting accordingly. Mostly, the second part means really honing in on what they're doing with their air. If they bet a lot of their air when checked to, you have to develop a c/r range (unless crazy floaty then just go to valuetown) or a leading range, if they check back a lot of air, have fun donking turns once he makes his hand unbalanced on the flop.
Any general advice on how to deal with people who only 3bet or fold OOP?
It depends on how many hands they're playing and how they react to limps, but in general, the hands that aren't quite strong enough to call a 3bet should work great in a limping range against these opponents. What you should do with your trashier stuff (fold, limp, or minraise) depends on 3betting % mostly.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$550+$20 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1240 BBgokeyforever1760 Effective Stacks: 62bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, gokeyforever calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) gokeyforever checks, Hero bets 60, gokeyforever calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) gokeyforever checks, Hero bets 160, gokeyforever calls 160 River (560, 2 players) gokeyforever checks, Hero bets 360, gokeyforever raises to 720, Hero folds Final Pot: 1640 gokeyforever wins 1640 ( won +640 ) Hero lost -640 A few hands vs a decent reg. He calls ~30% preflop, rarely folds flop and is nitty on rivers.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$330+$15 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1500 BBgokeyforever1500 Effective Stacks: 75bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, gokeyforever calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) gokeyforever checks, Hero bets 60, gokeyforever calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) gokeyforever checks, Hero bets 160, gokeyforever calls 160 River (560, 2 players) gokeyforever checks, Hero bets 380, gokeyforever folds Final Pot: 940 Hero wins 940 ( won +280 ) gokeyforever lost -280
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$330+$15 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1450 BBgokeyforever1550 Effective Stacks: 73bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, gokeyforever calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) gokeyforever checks, Hero bets 60, gokeyforever calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) gokeyforever checks, Hero bets 160, gokeyforever calls 160 River (560, 2 players) gokeyforever checks, Hero bets 420, gokeyforever folds Final Pot: 980 Hero wins 980 ( won +280 ) gokeyforever lost -280 Tried to vary my sizing to get him to call but he folded every time I had it and when I didn't he had it. So from now I'm pretty sure he is nitty on rivers and I will be barreling a lot.
also, how tight do you make your flatting range when opponent opens 40-50% only?
The 93 hand I think is a reasonable barrel-off. I'd probably make it a little less on the river, I don't expect people to fold spades basically ever to that size so might as well make it a bit smaller.
Triple barrel also looks pretty mandatory with the 98dd, but I dislike your river size once you hit, especially given the "nitty on river" read. Too big, imo. Make it closer to half pot, you'll get looked up well enough more often for it to be worth it to make the smaller sizing. You'll also get raised by 3x more frequently.
I also think a little smaller is in order vs most in the T4 hand, but no big dal.against someone who opens 40-50%, the biggest adjustments are to not play your weak Kx/Qx type stuff that you'd play against a more frequent opener. J7o, K6o, Q8o, though, I think are all hands you should still be playing.
even against people who open a ton my default is usually to call J8o+ only, how low down do you call your Jxo against a 70-90% raiser?
Probably just J7o, J5s. Some of the lower jacks become decent 3bet bluffing hands against frequent openers.
Playing Siervos a lot lately.Just wondering if these thoughts make sense:I call down strong hands from flop to river instead of check/raising because he triple barrels a huge amount. -> after one-two hands of this, he should notice, meaning that my c/r flop range is really weak so I should start check/raising with good hands instead, he will also double barrel less because my range isn't as weak so now I can comfortably check/call bottom pair/strong Ahighs.It's a bit tougher to take advantage of the c/r dynamic because the decision gets bigger OOP (do I call a 3bet on the flop or do I 4bet/get it in? hard to just call OOP because he can check back turn), but it's awesome to get him to 3barrel complete air because he thinks my flop flat range is weak. I always end up feeling dumb when he folds to a flop 4betshove but he never folds if I 4bet with air -.- (that's what it feels like at least).He typically doesn't 3bet much(between 10% and 20% when he isn't adjusting specifically, he seems to autopilot a lot). I've won 2-3 games in a row. He 3bets first three buttons, I flat one and fold to cbet I think, start of the match. I pick up 22. Standard shove over 3bet without further reads or should I believe that he is just getting lucky hands 3-4 times in a row? ~50-60bb deep. He turned up with KK obv.Just if you're bored :p Great job on the month, I learnt a lot.
What size 3bet? Potsized? I tend to believe the 3rd 3-bet is going to be fairly strong from a player of that profile. 50 or 60bb makes an important difference, too.
It was ~60bb, sized from 60->160 as all the others. If I fold here, do I just continue folding when he 3bets more? Would feel dumb to have folded a good shoving hand like 22 if he does continue to 3bet.Edit: it was the 4th 3bet.Lately he is 3betting me ~50%... I try to flat a wide range that is easy to play, Q8s+, Q9+, J8s+, J9+, K9s+, KTo+ and shove a lot of Ax+ pairs. Not sure that is the right approach.I also 4bet AQs, KQs, good pairs(160-340) and he has flatted each time with hands such as J2s.. but have lately shoved them too as he has called off with hands like A8o.
So you're 3xing preflop? I'd definitely start minraising if he's 3betting a lot.Your approach sounds good about flatting/jamming range.
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