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donkey yori's picture
What do you think about that?

Hey guys, do you think my raises a flop is bad.He loves bet oop but always bet 1/2  or 3/4 poth1>No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$10+$1Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBpeerke19871375  SBHero2625  Effective Stacks: 28bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 125, peerke1987 calls 75 Flop (250, 2 players) peerke1987 bets 50, Hero raises to 195, peerke1987 calls 145 Turn (640, 2 players) peerke1987 checks, Hero bets 465, peerke1987 calls 465 River (1570, 2 players) peerke1987 goes all-in 590, Hero calls 590 Final Pot: 2750 peerke1987 shows a pair of Sevens Hero shows two pair, Sevens and Deuces Hero wins 2750 ( won +1375 ) peerke1987 lost -1375    

crstn's picture
Your flop raise is to big imo

Your flop raise is to big imo (150-175). Turn is a good card for a second barrell - if you think your opponent is able to fold a weak T or a 7, but imo this bet is also a little to big. Basically you potcommitted yourself with 22. Don't expect to be good here very often. Villain seems pretty retarded. Not many draws on the flop, so you should expect to see here a lot of Tx and 7x Hands at showdown.I have a question: Do you believe you made valuebets (and raises), or did you believe you are bluffing. I think it is very important to be aware why we make a bet. In your situations - and if you had already reads how bad your opponent is - bluffing him of a Tx or 7x hand is a bad idea, and 22 are to thin for valuebets on three streets (all in).Funny hand

donkey yori's picture
I think is bluff with a

I think is bluff with a marginal hand to prevent an opponent’s bluff (to river), my hand is best in at least half the time(oop call-45%) .  I play husng about 3 months my thinks may be incorrect.

crstn's picture
Hey I am playing for three

Hey I am playing for three months and also not that good :)But I think that are the wrong reasons to bet. I think or you bet because you have the best hand and get value from worse (in your example maybe overcards and different straight draws on the flop). It is just a side effect of a bet that you prevent from getting bluffed yourself. Or you bet because you want your opponent to fold a better hand. So in you example I think you value betted the flop and turned your hand in a bluff on the turn (how should you know your opponent has just J high?)I think it is very important to find the reason WHY we bet.When I am tilted or played to many games I find myself clicking buttons without good reasonings....But I stop know, because this stuff basically has nothing to do directly with your hand. It just seemed so weired that you bet first as value, bet then as a bluff imo and then made a hero call, so basically you changed 3 times the reason for your actions.Maybe one of the better players or coaches has to say what different. I am curious 

arh7rf's picture
I'm not really seeing the

I'm not really seeing the logic in this hand. The hand that the villain showed up with is completely illogical so I'm wondering what method you used to make this call... I can see that villain could have 89 in this spot and 56 and that is about it for draws. His turn draw was completely random and an absolutely terrible call on his part anway. I'm not sure which hands you were getting value from that called the flop and the turn with this bet size. The best hand I can think of that you beat is a OESD that turned a Spade Draw. Lastly I see a lot of villains play this type of game with a 7 on both the flop and the turn. I wouldn't be surprised if he showed up with a 7 by a long shot especially since its really the only hand that even has a chance of calling on the turn and is now afraid that a 10 will not bet the river because it hits so much of his calling range. In this particular spot, I'm really surprised he shows up with that hand.

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I think the hand is weird and

I think the hand is weird and reminds me a lot of how i used to play. As soon as i saw a minbet i'd snap raise sensing weakness regardless of my hand or the board pretty much and sometimes selfpwn. I mean a lot of the time guys will minbet/fold the flop or give it up on the turn so once you commit to the bluff i think you were right to follow through on the turn. However, you wanna set up the stacks a bit better for a bluff because you're only left with 1/3 PSB on river the way you've played it, which basically isn't gonna get us enough FE vs a bare 7x or any pair tbh.I don't mind flat calling the flop and going from there though. As played i actualy quite like the river call. His line is quite strange and he fails to represent anything or than exactly 7x or air of which the 7x would be pretty weird/hard to believe tbh. So i don't mind the call. Also his lack of fold equity with that river bet kinda demonstrates my previous point about setting up stacks better from your own perspective.Also i might min raise his flop donk bet in an attempt to freeze him up and potentially see it check through to the river sometimes, depends how i think he'll react and how i interpret his range but i prefer flatting.