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Vroommmm HH thread

It's impossible for me to convert HH's so i wil just write them down very carefully. HAND 1$54 HU SNGvillain is probably a lower stakes reg. He is far too tight imo, especially at high blinds. He floats the flop a lot but he is not agressive. He stabs now and then but that's it otherwise he is just betting for value. blinds are 10 / 20 effective stacks are : 1910 chipsSB (villain) raises to 40BB calls 40              holding Td 8dFLOP (pot = 80)Qc Th 8s BB (hero) bets 80SB (villain) calls 80(i donk because he really isn't that agressive and i don't want to give a freecard that makes everything more connected and will at least kill my action) TURN (pot = 240)5sBB (hero) bets 240SB (villain) calls 240RIVER (pot = 720)QhBB (hero) checks ? SB bets 500BB (hero) ???     

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HAND 2 Same villain  blinds

HAND 2Same villain blinds 15/30effective stacks: 1730 SB (hero) raises to 60           holding 4s 4dBB (villain) calls 60  FLOP pot = 120Qc Js 6s BB checksSB (hero) bets 90BB calls 90 TURN  (pot = 300)Qc Js 6s 4c BB checksSB (hero) bets 285BB calls 285RIVER (pot = 870) (about 1400 behind) Qc Js 6s 4c 9sBB checks SB ???what's my riverline here?    

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hand 3  This is a quick

hand 3 This is a quick checkup hand, im curious what your opinions are on this. It's a standard hand where i flop 2nd pair with a very mediocre kicker with 79o and i'm facing a guy that defends like 60%-70% and calls a lot of flops in a $108 game. He also 3bets a range of 15% or something.25-50 blinds, 1835 effective stacks. SB (hero) raises 100BB calls 100FLOP (flop 200)Ah 9c 3h SB bets 100 BB bets 100 TURN Ah 9c 3h 6c SB bets 250 ? this is my standard approach in this situation is that ok? or am i pushing it here with this hand?       

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If you haven't read this

If you haven't read this thread, hopefully it will help with the posting of hands. I don't want you having to type something up every time!http://www.husng.com/content/how-post-hands

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Hand 1: I still think that

Hand 1: I still think that without stronger reads, a check/raise is going to do a lot better here. It will depend on his frequency of c-betting pure air and just how often he's "floating" as you say - what exactly do you mean by that? Like is it possible he'll call with total air to take the pot away later? Or are you more talking about situations with overcards? The problem with your line is that you're usually only going to get one street of value from anything worse than Qx, which isn't better than your equity from checking the flop. When he has Qx, especially weak Qx, he'll very likely continue against a check/raise but flat a donk bet, so you do much worse there. So leading does worse against his pure air, probably about the same against his made hands that are fairly weak, and worse against weak Qx. It might to a little better against gutshots that would call a donk but not c-bet, etc, but I think on the balance c/r is going to be better. Your reasoning is that future cards may kill your action, but the reverse is true as well, he can have Ax/Kx that would just fold to a donk but hit top pair on the turn.I think the turn bet is too big without further reads about what he'll call. It really targets Qx (but again, we do better against Qx by check/raising flop), but it folds out too much Tx/worse for my liking.The river is not fun, but against a gardenvariety nitreg, I probably fold. I doubt he's betting this big with something like AT (although it's posible), so I think he basically has Qx or something that slowplayed if he has a value hand. The thing is, the only draws are KJ/97 really along with some gutshots that hit a flush draw on the turn, and KJ often checks back river thinking it might have the best hand against your busted draw. Given the fact that he doesn't rep very many air hands on the river and isn't a big bluffer when he does have air, I would guess his frequencies are such that a fold is best and that he has exactly what you targeted on the turn with your sizing: Qx. 

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Hand 2: I think the c-bet is

Hand 2: I think the c-bet is probably too big on this board, especially versus a mainly fit-or-fold villain. All you're really trying to accomplish is fold out his overcards which have decent equity against you (or them calling, either is fine really, betting just does better than them checking behind).You forgot the river card :)

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Hand 3: I would bet a little

Hand 3: I would bet a little less, or check the turn. There aren't a lot of worst 9's to get value out of, and he may not call the bigger sizing with 3x. The bet is much more standard if you had Q9 or something like that. I would bet t150-t200 and check back the river.

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Thankyou for the analysis of

Thankyou for the analysis of those hands. Here i have another tough one. I'm very sorry i cannot post formatted HH's because Betfair Ongame does not convert in any converter i have tried so far. I cannot post converted hands on 2+2 either :(   I play about a mix of $100 and $50 games. This is a hand againsta regular i play against all the time at $100. I really think he is not good at all and i should beat him pretty hard but in reality he is up a TON on me.  He limps about 30% of hands. He openraises about 50% of hands.  And he defends by 3betting 22% and calling my opens another 55%.  So basically he has the same range IP and OOP.  He is usually very passive untill the river. His agression is below 1on all streets except the river where it spikes at 3.5  Partly this is because he doesn't call as much riverbarrels as he does flop and turn barrels but also because when my agression goes down on the river and when i check he sometimes bluffs (i think)and he also slowplays his hands to the river, which he then raises there. He hardly ever raises the turn. I think he reads into my weakness pretty well sometimes.  OntheHorses posts small blind (50), nynepMAH posts big blind (100),  PRE-FLOPOntheHorses raises to 200, nynepMAH calls 200. FLOP [board cards: 3S,6D,2C ]nynepMAH checks, OntheHorses checks. TURN [board cards: 3S,6D,2C,6C ]nynepMAH checks, OntheHorses bets 200, nynepMAH raises to 700, OntheHorses calls 700. RIVER [board cards: 3S,6D,2C,6C,8H ]nynepMAH bets 1,200 and is all-in,  i usually feel like my agressiveness gets the better of him and he lucks out but in a hand like this i feel so utterly outplayed. i don't understand what he can have, which makes it so unlikely for him to bluff, that i guess he lucked onto something. Since he does defend a lot.     

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Effective stack sizes for

Effective stack sizes for this hand?Also, your hole cards? :)

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Oh i am sorry. Really hate

Oh i am sorry. Really hate the betfair hh's. My HC: A7o Effective stacks are 2000

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I strongly recommend

I strongly recommend c-betting against a passive player. Checking back ace high on dry boards against player types who won't check/raise bluff (or even check/raise for value that often) is a really bad habit that's easy to fall into.If he has the slowplaying tendency, I fold turn without too much of a second thought, it increases the probability that he checked a 6 here instead of leading it. I don't think this is a conventional spot to slowplay any further, he'd probably be worried too much about you checking back river with a line like that. So even if you've seen him slowplay to the river in different situations, I'd fold to a passive player here who I hadn't seen this before from.