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February 22, 2012 - 17:53
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No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNHero1230  BBAlex-fine1770  Effective Stacks: 62bb Blinds 10/20

Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)

Hero is BTN

hJ h8

Hero raises to 60, Alex-fine raises to 170, Hero calls 110

Flop (340, 2 players)

h5 hT d2

Alex-fine bets 220, Hero raises to 560, Alex-fine folds

Final Pot: 1120

Hero wins 1120 ( won +390 )

Alex-fine lost -390

The villain is generally tight I had play a few games with him and this game he had started 3betting me a lot more and I think it was because he was fed up of me 3betting him all the time and opening my button 100%.

Is this an OK hand to call with if you think that someone is 3bet bluffing you?

I wasn't sure how to play the flop and I think that the size that I have raised to is bad, what reads on a villain would make you want to call this flop and what reads would make you want to raise it and if you are raising it what size would you be raising to?

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February 22, 2012 - 18:59
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knowing that he is agressive

knowing that he is agressive and regarding his bet on the flop never call raise get it in , a call is bad almost always

ps: the hand is ok to call a 3bet lots of equity

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February 23, 2012 - 16:56
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Cheers dude

Cheers dude so at what stack size would you think it would you not be shoving?

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February 23, 2012 - 18:16
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Disregarding the call pre

Disregarding the call pre flop, I don't think you played the hand awfully. I think your bet sizing wasn't great but your actions were good. 

 

It sometimes can be a matter of personal taste, but J9 suited tends to be the bottom of my 3 bet calling range pre.  I would limp J8 suited if he started getting out of line and 3 bet a lot more.  Also if he is starting to 3 bet more, you should drop your button raising size down to either 2.5x or a min raise. 

 

You have pretty good equity against his entire range on the flop, and given he has started to 3 bet more, I'd imagine there is fold equity there also. 

 

I prefer shoving over his flop lead, purely because you are semi-bluffing, and because of stack sizes in relation to the pot.  You may (by no means certain) have the best hand but there are a lot of turns that are gonna be difficult to play in a huge pot.  You are gonna get it in on this kinda flop no matter what he has, so by shoving you give yourself the biggest chance of him folding.

 

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February 27, 2012 - 14:27
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Thanks dude

Thanks dude

very helpful answer

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