7 posts / 0 new
Last post
longjohn's picture
unsure about river against aggro villain

No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1540  BTNtato_ldf1460  Effective Stacks: 73bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB tato_ldf calls 10, Hero raises to 80, tato_ldf calls 60 Flop (160, 2 players) Hero bets 80, tato_ldf raises to 260, Hero calls 180 Turn (680, 2 players) Hero checks, tato_ldf checks River (680, 2 players) Hero.....I've seen the villain c/r on a 388 board then barrel a Q on the turn with air and c/r on J28 with 43 + bdfd then jam an A on the turn with a FD, so I think he can do this raise here with almost any two cards, hes limping 50% of hands and raising 40% but I don't know if he is mixing up the strength of the hands he is doing this with so not to sure what his limping range is.On the river would it be better to bet/fold, bet/call or c/c I'm not sure if he would call me with worse say A high but then I'm not sure if I'd want to call say a pot size bet here when I have no reads about him bluffing on the river even though he is aggro?

Melvis's picture
your villain attaks dry

your villain attaks dry boards and barrels scarecards with equity. Probably on 877s his range is full of bluffs and semi-bluffs. Still you only have a bluffcatcher. I think there is a reason to call the flop and donk blanks or check/shove an Overcard like J+ IF his flopraising range is super wide. But I am not sure if you can be so sure about that after he made this move only twice. Would like to hear other opinions on this topic.As played on the river I still think it is a check/call, because his range is still much wider then fds and there is a chance he would barrel the Turn with equity eventhough the 4x is a really bad barreling card.

Barewire's picture
Meh, kinda looks like a c/f

Meh, kinda looks like a c/f to me since he shut down on the turn which could mean he's trapping or that he hit a 4 after running a bluff on the flop. I'd never lead the river, it's just not really gonna get looked up light on this runout and he could very well have a better 7x that raised flop but didn't feel comfortable barreling. Have you seen him suicide bluff the river before or only bluffing when barreling? I think there's a big difference and I wouldn't get into the trap of thinking he's someone crazy who can have anything at any time, since that doesn't apply to anyone.

Check out my blog (Updated 4/10) and my coaching page!

longjohn's picture
Ok so are you saying c/f > c/c > b/f?

Thanks for the repliesOk so are you saying c/f > c/c > b/f? or is this quite a clear c/f? even though he could have a massive range on the flop? I don't have any reads about river bluff tendancies

Barewire's picture
It's definitely in that

It's definitely in that order, but imo it's not a clear c/f since he will obviously get to the turn with a large number of bluffs and we don't know for sure how he'll play them. I'm mostly guessing from your description that he'll follow up most of his bluffs on the turn so once we get to the river this way he won't be bluffing enough to c/c. 

Check out my blog (Updated 4/10) and my coaching page!

nekrogovner's picture
I'd raise to 60 pre, if he is

I'd raise to 60 pre, if he is aggro, and doesn't fold limps 2 raises much. No point in bloating pot against a maniac. I'd maaaaaaybe call smaller size bet on a river, around 1/2 pot or so just to look him up. But overall, river card is pretty awful, but it could very likely be scary to him, so i expect him only to barrel here with strongest hands only (and air if he is maniac).

longjohn's picture
Ok yeah I see what you mean

Ok yeah I see what you mean I didn't even think about that that he had been barreling whenever he was bluffing before, thanks.