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TpTk correctly played ?

sorry for the grammar mistakes if their is any.4th hand of the match so no reads. this is a reflection of how i look at the hand afterwards. would like some input on how i could/should have played it and especially my bet sizes and reasoning for why they should have been bigger/smaller. My own thoughts:preflop: pretty standard imo flop: because of how small the bet was i took it as weakness and decided to raise him. I feel that my raise could have been slightly bigger maybe 150-180 since if hes on a draw or a weaker Queen hes prolly still going to call. And if he have a smaller pair i don't think i'm going to get more value from them on later streets.Turn: here is where i have come to conclussion that i played bad. i made the bet to try and build pot that would allow for the stacks to go in on the river, but thinking about it now. the only hand i'm beating that is jamming or calling on the river is a weaker queen.River : he checks i'm stupid and makes a bet and calls his shoove.  SBHero1515  BBTrotter131485  Effective Stacks: 50bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 90, Trotter13 calls 60   Flop (180, 2 players) Trotter13 bets 30, Hero raises to 100, Trotter13 calls 70    Turn (380, 2 players) Trotter13 checks, Hero bets 260, Trotter13 calls 260    River (900, 2 players) Trotter13 checks, Hero bets 400, Trotter13 goes all-in 1035, Hero calls 635    Final Pot: 2970     

RyPac13's picture
I would suggest raising the

I would suggest raising the flop larger.  Don't react to their bet sizing so much, think about the pot size and the value YOU want out of this hand.  Especially vs the average player (too loose), it's unlikely they will fold any decent draw or pair to a larger raise size, so make it 120-180 and go from there.The turn bet is fine, you get value from plenty of hands.  From an average player, Tx, weaker Qx, 98, 98, 87 are all possibilities.  96/J6 if in his range (particularly suited) make sense as calls, KJ as well.  So I still think there is plenty of value to be had, and some weaker flop call hands may have picked up some extra draws on the turn.The river gets thinner.  More 2 pair hand combinations and straights are now possible.With a bigger flop size and thus bigger turn bet, stacks on the river will be 1100+ with under 900 behind.  Checking back is an option in that case, as action somewhat diminishes from weaker hands (IE with the board getting scarier, worse hands are less likely to call, strong hands are more likely to be made) so this spot can actually argue for a river check back.  You'll be getting more value starting from the flop in any case, which is really the key here.  The hand becomes more difficult to make good decisions on when you sell yourself short on value.

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Will thas be crazy to make

Will thas be crazy to make the rase to 250 on the flop again a loose passif and calling station  ?  1 : many time vilain will think ( he raise me because of my week bet ) and snap call 2 : They have 2 strait draw ( fish like draw )   

RyPac13's picture
I would much rather see 250

I would much rather see 250 than 100 vs a loose player Boulases, yes.There's just usually a point with a lot of these players where they stop thinking "I can't fold my weak pair/draw" and start thinking "with that big of a raise size he has to have it, I can make a big laydown!"I'd personally look more towards 180, but if you know your opponent OK and have indications that he's willing to call off larger, then a bigger size is correct.

happy's picture
Thanks

Thanks for the feedback. he had 45O 

RyPac13's picture
45 is quite a funny hand to

45 is quite a funny hand to see, but is a really good example of why you should really push the value early on in the hand, to make them fully pay for their mistakes.