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Soulouri's HH Thread

Hey all,I tried to post some info and a HH in here but I am having a lot of problems with the website.When I try to open half of the articles to read I am re-directed to the membership/sign up page.  When I try to paste a HH using the Edit HTML Source button and click "update", it takes me to the membership page.I have a standard membership on HUSNG.com, am I meant to be on premium to access 80% of this stuff?Thanks,Soulouri

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Welcome!There are things

Welcome!There are things about the forum that are a pain. Here is a thread that should help:http://www.husng.com/content/how-post-hands#comment-19907 You don't need a HUSNG paid membership to use the forum. In general, if you just turn Full HTML on by clicking "input format" next to submit, you'll be fine.

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I'm interested in thoughts on

I'm interested in thoughts on this hand - this was in a $10 donkament HU, round 2, my opponent is a loser over the $6 games and I think I had a significant edge on him.  His post flop play here is super transparant I think, and put him exactly on AJ (or AQ/AK but for some reason it felt like AJ :))
 
With this information, and the knowledge we have a large edge postflop (and we're in round 2 of a donkament if that changes anything), is this still a call/shove with 88?
 
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$10 + $1 Heads-Up Shootout
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BB
Hero
1500

SB
N11d
1500

Effective Stacks: 50bb
Blinds 15/30
Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)
Hero is BB

N11d raises to 90, Hero raises to 300, N11d goes all-in 1500, Hero goes all-in 1200

Flop (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in)

River (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: 3000
Hero shows a pair of Eights

N11d shows a pair of Jacks

N11d wins 3000 ( won +1500 )
Hero lost -1500

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test

I'm not sure what to do in a 3bet pot here.  Villains turn up so often with Ace/rag here and small pocket pairs that I normally just get it in vs an unknown at these stakes.  Is this a mistake?  If i had not run into KK i probably wouldn't have posted it but it is making me wonder.
 
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$11 + $0.50 Heads Up Sit & Go
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BB
Jago4ever
1485

SB
Hero
1515

Effective Stacks: 50bb
Blinds 15/30
Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)
Hero is SB

Hero raises to 60, Jago4ever raises to 180, Hero raises to 480, Jago4ever goes all-in 1485, Hero calls 1005

Flop (2970, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn (2970, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River (2970, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: 2970
Jago4ever shows a pair of Kings

Hero shows Ace Queen high

Jago4ever wins 2970 ( won +1485 )
Hero lost -1485

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I was pretty tilted in this hand (had a quite bad session and should have stopped at this point) so I made what i think is a pretty loose call. But i really how no clue how to play this flop, check behind, bet/raise, bet/call, bet/fold... really confusing. Not played too many pots with this villain, he seems a little stationy but definitely not seen anything bluffy from him yet.
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$11 + $0.50 Heads Up Sit & Go
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BB
Philgordonarg
1690

SB
Hero
1310

Effective Stacks: 33bb
Blinds 20/40
Pre-Flop (60, 2 players)
Hero is SB

Hero raises to 80, Philgordonarg calls 40

Flop (160, 2 players)

Philgordonarg checks, Hero bets 80, Philgordonarg raises to 200, Hero calls 120

Turn (560, 2 players)

Philgordonarg bets 200, Hero folds

Final Pot: 760
Philgordonarg wins 760 ( won +280 )
Hero lost -280

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Is raise/fold ok here readless?

Is raise/fold ok here readless?
 
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$11 + $0.50 Heads Up Sit & Go
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SB
Hero
1435

BB
wowa1188
1565

Effective Stacks: 36bb
Blinds 20/40
Pre-Flop (60, 2 players)
Hero is SB

Hero raises to 80, wowa1188 calls 40

Flop (160, 2 players)

wowa1188 checks, Hero bets 80, wowa1188 calls 80

Turn (320, 2 players)

wowa1188 checks, Hero bets 160, wowa1188 calls 160

River (640, 2 players)

wowa1188 bets 120, Hero raises to 320, wowa1188 calls 200

Final Pot: 1280
Hero shows two pair, Queens and Tens

wowa1188 shows

Hero wins 1280 ( won +640 )
wowa1188 lost -640

mersenneary's picture
I would think about hands

I would think about hands much more in terms of ranges - your opponent will have a variety of paired and unpaired hands here, something to 3x and good enough to jam over your 3bet (though usually people will make small 4bets with AA/KK). That said, you definitely should be calling it off with 88 here if you decide to 3bet. He can easily have worse pairs and weird hands like suited aces. I'm also 3bet/calling.

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So I have a quite strange

So I have a quite strange hand here, and a two part question.  1) What to do with J10o in this situation, villain normally limps, he is only raising 25% of his buttons, here I decide to flat but i'm not sure how close it is.  I am also unsure how to proceed with J10 in the same situation if we were 14-15BB deep.2) I realise postflop looks spewy, but this villain was playing EXTREMELY face up, small bets were weak holdings, he tended to bet 3/4 with stronger hands and check all his draws.  When he min bets I am 100% sure he has not connected so make a raise.  I am also pretty certain the turn did not help him since he would let me know about it if it did.  Do you think I should have fired again on the river or was this play just too spewy in general even given the reads?(sorry for HH, taken straight from universal replayer)[22/48]##########################################FullTilt Poker Game 30843722787 / TournamentTable 1 - 21:25:22 CET - 2011/06/02 [15:25:22 ETBlinds : 25/50##########################################2 players[But]+[SB] villain (1260) [BB] hero (1740) hero T J Initial Pot: 75 villain raises to 150hero calls 100### FLOP ### K 5 4 Pot: 300hero checksvillain bets 50hero raises to 200villain calls 150### TURN ### 6 Pot: 700hero bets 280villain calls 280### RIVER ### 4 Pot: 1260hero checksvillain checkshero shows T J villain shows 3 A villain wins 1260 from the main pot with A Pair of fours

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hope this works...

So just typed out a huge post and the website lost it, hope this one works :(I just wanted to quickly go over a super common spot, hand #2 vs a total random.  After this hand it made me think about some conflicting poker theory that I play by;In this situation I want to check the turn, it feels 'natural' - there is very little the villain can have and we want to maximise our value by letting him improve and disguising our hand.The problem is, if I had a hand such as 78off here, so total air, I would be inclined to check this turn because of the paired board syndrome "if he liked the flop he likes the turn" or "nothing has changed".  Surely under this logic betting a 2nd barrel would be best since from a bluffing POV, we think he is more inclined to continue, and this way we can get 3 streets of value.I think I could make this post MUCH longer if we started talking about "balancing ranges" and other such topics, but I feel that is just overcomplicating the issue when we don't need to.I would be really interested in your thoughts on those two sides of the coin, and also whether betting 3 streets for value here would be optimal over the way i played it vs an uknown :) No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$11 + $0.50 Heads Up Sit & GoHand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converterSBHero1515 BBvillain1485 Effective Stacks: 50bbBlinds 15/30Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, villain calls 30Flop (120, 2 players) villain checks, Hero bets 60, villain calls 60Turn (240, 2 players)villain checks, Hero checksRiver (240, 2 players)villain checks, Hero bets 140, villain calls 140Final Pot: 520Hero shows three of a kind, Kings villain shows Hero wins 520 ( won +260 )villain lost -260

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another one

So here is another one, i'll try to leave at this for the moment to give you a chance to read through it all :) Basically my decision is river raise or jam - I am quite happy with the rest of the hand, this is hand 2 or 3 vs a random unknown. In this instance I raised a decent amount because even though it looks strong, I think jamming puts our hand totally face up and don't see how anyone can ever call (although i guess our raise effectively does the same).

No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$11 + $0.50 Heads Up Sit & Go
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SBHero1395
BBfredrezz1605

Effective Stacks: 47bb
Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)
Hero is SB

Hero raises to 60, fredrezz raises to 120, Hero calls 60

Flop (240, 2 players)

fredrezz checks, Hero checks

Turn (240, 2 players)

fredrezz bets 60, Hero calls 60

River (360, 2 players)

fredrezz bets 210, Hero raises to 580, fredrezz calls 370

Final Pot: 1520
Hero shows a flush, Ace high

fredrezz shows

Hero wins 1520 ( won +760 )
fredrezz lost -760

mersenneary's picture
Despite the low opening

Despite the low opening frequency, I think JT is definitely still a call pre, with no other good options. You'll actually see a lot of low pocket pairs/Ax with the 3x sizing, which JT plays well against. The check/raise is okay, but I really think given his tighter opening range, there's not enough air in his postflop range, which makes it a lot worse.I strongly disagree with your thought process on the K9 hand. The K turn, pairing the board, is a terrible card to bluff if you didnt have a hand, because all 6x and 3x is calling for sure. Similarly, because of that, you really have to continue for value. You can get three streets, especially given the fact that there's a flush draw that came on the turn and some straight draws he can put you on. I would strongly advise against "fancy play syndrome" checks like this readless given the biggest leak of fish, which is that they pay off too much.I'd raise bigger with the KQ, and probably jam, When people check this flop and end up betting this size on the river, it's very often a decent hand - if they had air, they probably would bet this flop, and if they have a weak pair, it's kind of a large river size. 

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Another game fairly early on

Another game fairly early on so readless vs villain.  My main confused thought here is, lead flop, c/r flop or c/c flop?  I'm really not sure on the best play here. 
 
Only hand so far was a 4x open from villain on the button, cbet A78 flop, we 3bet small, he 4bet small, we shoved and he folded.
 
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$11 + $0.50 Heads Up Sit & Go
Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter

BB
Hero
1980

SB
vl-jenya
1020

Effective Stacks: 26bb
Blinds 20/40
Pre-Flop (60, 2 players)
Hero is BB

vl-jenya calls 20, Hero raises to 120, vl-jenya raises to 200, Hero calls 80

Flop (400, 2 players)

Hero checks, vl-jenya bets 120, Hero calls 120

Turn (640, 2 players)

Hero checks, vl-jenya checks

River (640, 2 players)

Hero checks, vl-jenya goes all-in 700, Hero folds

Final Pot: 1340
vl-jenya wins 1340 ( won +320 )
Hero lost -320

mersenneary's picture
When people take this

When people take this limp/small reraise line, it's strongly weighted towards big hands. I think check/calling is by far the best option on this flop. I play the hand exactly the same as you.

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test

I was completely lost on the turn in this one, this is hand 11, nothing much happend in the other games except for 1 check/raise from him on a super dry board, and one check/call on 77A flop, then c/r 10 turn huge.
 
So other than appearing a little tricky and active postflop we have no reads.  My first thought is we have top pair top kicker... shove, but at the same time I don't see anything we beat taking this line.
 
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$22 + $1 Heads Up Sit & Go
Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter

BB
dbgaruba
1800

SB
Hero
1200

Effective Stacks: 40bb
Blinds 15/30
Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)
Hero is SB

Hero raises to 60, dbgaruba calls 30

Flop (120, 2 players)

dbgaruba checks, Hero bets 60, dbgaruba calls 60

Turn (240, 2 players)

dbgaruba bets 240, Hero calls 240

River (720, 2 players)

dbgaruba goes all-in 1440, Hero goes all-in 840

Final Pot: 3000
dbgaruba shows a full house, Fours full of Nines

Hero shows

dbgaruba wins 3000 ( won +1200 )
Hero lost -1200

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attempt 2 :)

Just wanted a quick checkup on this one, I think check/calling is probably more standard here?  We're only 46% against a K here (which i didn't realise at the time).  I'm not sure if for this reason we should c/c or if we should raise here since if we factor in his air, weaker flush draws, 8x etc. we're in quite good shape. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$22 + $1 Heads Up Sit & GoHand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converterBBHero1680 SBquenast1320 Effective Stacks: 44bbBlinds 15/30Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)Hero is BB quenast raises to 90, Hero calls 60Flop (180, 2 players) Hero checks, quenast bets 120, Hero raises to 420, quenast goes all-in 1230, Hero calls 810Turn (2640, 2 players, 1 all-in)River (2640, 2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: 2640Hero shows Ace King high quenast shows a pair of Kings quenast wins 2640 ( won +1320 )Hero lost -1320

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flush

Another hand where we're early on and have very few reads.

On this turn I am really torn between flatting and raising.  We can only expect a diamond to hit the river 19% of the time and i think the other 81% we're going to win a pretty huge pot.  This is what made me flat here but obviously with that river it all kind of back fired.

Do you think flatting is fine here or am I trying to be too tricky again and should just play a much more straight forward raise for value on the turn?
 
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$22 + $1 Heads Up Sit & Go
Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter

BB
Stolf
1470

SB
Hero
1530

Effective Stacks: 49bb
Blinds 15/30
Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)
Hero is SB

Hero raises to 60, Stolf calls 30

Flop (120, 2 players)

Stolf checks, Hero bets 60, Stolf raises to 150, Hero calls 90

Turn (420, 2 players)

Stolf bets 240, Hero calls 240

River (900, 2 players)

Stolf bets 480, Hero folds

Final Pot: 1380
Stolf wins 1380 ( won +450 )
Hero lost -450

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flush

double post :(

mersenneary's picture
Nothing you should do

Nothing you should do differently with the K9. A bigger flop bet is best against a lot of fish, but you have to call turn and river.I think raising is best with the A7cc. We want to get value from worse flush draws and fold out bottom pair/ace high type hands.I raise the turn with the flush. There are hands to get value out of and I don't think he's continuing with his air as often as you might think, and yes, it does matter a lot when he has KdXx type hands where he may be betting and calling a raise but you let him hit his equity for free and give up when you just call. I'd actually call the river, as well. Your reasoning is inconsistent - you're trying to trap him by just calling, but you think he's rarely bluffing on the river? It's possible for those two things to be true, but unlikely.

soulouri's picture
Fairly standard spot, not

Fairly standard spot, not sure if i should be calling or folding with suited connectors this deep.  It's pretty early with no reads.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$11 + $0.50 Heads Up Sit & GoHand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converterSBHero1455 BBPonpeta1545 Effective Stacks: 49bbBlinds 15/30Pre-FlopHero is SB Hero raises to 60, Ponpeta raises to 180, Hero folds Final Pot: 240Ponpeta wins 240 ( won +60 )Hero lost -60

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test

Not sure if i should 3bet bigger pre or how to proceed on this flop.  it was villains first 3bet.  I have a lot of trouble getting away from big hands when i hit a bad flop. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$11 + $0.50 Heads Up Sit & GoHand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converterSBHero1365 BBkrull3331635 Effective Stacks: 46bbBlinds 15/30Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, krull333 raises to 90, Hero raises to 240, krull333 calls 150Flop (480, 2 players) krull333 checks, Hero bets 210, krull333 calls 210Turn (900, 2 players)krull333 checks, Hero checksRiver (900, 2 players)krull333 bets 390, Hero foldsFinal Pot: 1290krull333 wins 1290 ( won +450 )Hero lost -450

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Also mers, is it possible to

Also mers, is it possible to do something about this HH submission stuff?  Every single time i try to do one forum post with a HH it takes me about 20 minutes because the website keeps saying "insert comment" like i'm trying to post nothing.I add the hands via the HTML converter thing and click "update" then add a comment to the top of the post to explain my thoughts or question, but then it keeps saying I need to insert a comment and wiping the post blank, so i have to write it all out again like 10 times until it finally works.This is really putting me off posting hands and harming my use of this program :(

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Just use handconverter.com

Just use handconverter.com and link to it if you're still having problems.

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I'd call with the 86s,

I'd call with the 86s, probably folding 85s.I'd make your 4bet bigger with the JJ, your line is good postflop, pretty close river decision.Yep, I don't think you post it if you don't run into a worse hand with the AQ. I usually just jam over the 3bet here.With the Jx, I think you have to peel one more card, you do have domination issues which is bad times, but I think you're getting the right price. I also would c-bet.I'd raise/call the river bigger with the QT, backdoor flush isn't super likely with this line.  

soulouri's picture
Sorry for HH like this but I

Sorry for HH like this but I couldn't convert it again so i thought i'd just do as you suggested :)So hand one; I have no clue what to do with my 88 on the turn, obviously here i spewed and just sort of hoped he had a FD but should i just be giving up?http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1336880 Hand two: Is this a standard line or a bit fishy?  I think turn call is standard, river... it's just hard to see what's betting full pot for value.http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1336881  Hand three: So here the min raise just screams flush, i really dont see what else does this, you would expect all big clubs to just jam over our raise.  Can we ever get away from this at our stack size?http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1336882 Hand four:  This happens just a few hands after the one mentioned above, based on that mini raise (which turned out to be the flush) can we lay this down pre or is it a mandatory call/jam?http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1336886 Hand five: Is this river a standard bet for value or just a check back?http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1336887 FInally i just have one concept.  If in the first hand of a match villain 3x's his button to 90 and we have 22.  I believe technically we're not getting the odds to call to hit our set right?  Would you advocate open folding or calling anyway?

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With the 88, I think your

With the 88, I think your biggest issue is sizing. I'd make it more both flop and pre, I think your turn jam is OK.The J7 line is standard up until the river, where it's really close. I don't mind a call, reads can dictate a lot here, it's close readless.You're right that the small raise is scary, but you have to get it in with top two. I've seen some weird stuff here and not just flushes.I do think folding the KQ in position is a significant mistake to that sizing. It's usually a jam, but can be a call given reads. It's basically never a fold.Your line with the QJ looks perfect, nh.

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Hey mers just bumping this

Hey mers just bumping this one;FInally i just have one concept.  If in the first hand of a match villain 3x's his button to 90 and we have 22.  I believe technically we're not getting the odds to call to hit our set right?  Would you advocate open folding or calling anyway?And also I was wondering if you could share a little wisdom on poker mentality.I've been working very hard on my game and feel it's at the highest level it has ever been, I also feel that i am pretty much crushing my level of games in the sense that I never feel outplayed and rarely in difficult spots against people, the problem is BR wise, I'm actually down $20-30 from where my game was considerably weaker 4 weeks ago.Just to put some numbers on it, i basically grinded out 20 buyins at the 11s, then 5-6 at the 22's and since then have lost around 10-15 buyins at 22s and been pretty break even at the 11s.I'm finding it quite difficult to stay motivated, I still put a huge chunk of time into reviewing games, doing sweat sessions with others on a similar level and all these things but it feels like i'm trying to swim up a waterfall - any thoughts?

mersenneary's picture
Only having to call t60 with

Only having to call t60 with t1410 behind, we definitely should play our deuces. Jamming over the raise to t90 is actually a very reasonable option (run some math for this)."I never feel outplayed and rarely in difficult spots against people"I would strongly advise against this type of thinking - what you may think of as "not difficult spots", you may very well be taking suboptimal lines. Work on the basics. Book your live 30 minute session with me or send in the 30 minute HH review, whichever option you decide to go with - I think that will start to help a lot in identifying things you're missing while thinking the spots aren't interesting.

soulouri's picture
Hey mers, I have not played

Hey mers,I have not played in a few days as my gf wanted to spend time together (gfs are definitely -ev) but anyway here are some hands, hope i can move back to the 22s soon, ran 220 below ev last time and those swings are pretty big for me as ive never played higher than the 11s, anyway, some hands;http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1344528Should i lead turn/river?  No reads on villain aside from knowing he can barrel turns light and sometimes river, although he seems to do this almost at random.http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1344532I wasn't sure if in a vaccum, should i be donking this turn or checking back as we'd figure Kx to be in a lot of people's check back range.http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1344536I think this is a super standard jam but wanted a check up :)http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1344538This is super, super thin value I think, but with a blocker to the FD and so many Qx hands being in a general floating range I decided to jam for value from Qx and maybe some Tx.  Am i going a little too thin here in genreal?  Villain had not been looking us up super light, but he'd for sure take this line with Qx and Tx but also with his air and hands that beat us like QT.http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1344540Another jam check, this is vs the same villain mentioned above - he for sure plays his air like this *sometimes* but also pretty much any pair.  He has not been calling super light, so i wouldn't expect to get called by anything worse than Qx (perhaps 9x in a longshot) 

mersenneary's picture
http://www.handconverter.com/

http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1344528I would check/raise flop without stronger reads. As played, I'd raise turn. I wouldn't lead river this small without strong reads that we'll induce a good % of the time.http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1344532Close spot, there aren't many situations readless where c/c turn is best after flop is checked through, but this may be one of them. Kx will be a decent part of his range and we're not getting value out of a lot by betting.http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1344536Yep, looks perfect.http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1344538Close again, I think because the river completed basically no two pair hands, raising is good here. I think I'd make it smaller, but it's close.http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1344532Very reasonable, nh.

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A few more hands, i feel

A few more hands, i feel somewhat clueless lately so hopefully this can help me get my head round things again :)http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1347161I'm completely lost on the turn here, but even with reads i would be completely lost.  I would be interested in your thoughts on plays vs the following villains;1) mr passive station that always floats flop cbets2) mr tight passive who we expect to at least be on a draw here (at worst)3) mr unknown who has folded to 100% of cbets so farI guess I should just give up on the turn?http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1347168Stack sizes make this hand kind of awkward... so far there has been no push/fold dynamic at all, just a lot of min raising at this 20bb deep level.  Villain seems solid and has not run any big bluffs yet but we have seen him value mid pair on a scary board.http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1347172Villain has been 2 or 2.5x'ing all weak/middleish hands and 3xing his stronger range.   Can we ever not jam in this spot or is it super standard? Finally I just had some general questions about 3betting - I have read your recommended articles on 3betting but i am still confused because every single time i talk to someone about 3betting a hand, I am told that it is terrible to 3 bet with.There seems to be confusion between all poker players about what exactly is a good hand to 3bet with early, and what should be in your calling range.Do you have any thoughts on the following hands for 3betting early, in a vaccum, vs someone that has been opening button 100% (we're 50bb deep as i play turbos);a) 54suitedb) T9 suitedc) Q7suitedd) 68 off suit

mersenneary's picture
http://www.handconverter.com/

http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1347161I would just bet/call the turn here readless. There should be enough worse pairs and draws in his range and I think bet/calling is definitely better than check/raising all-in against most people's turn ranges, I think most will check back their weaker hands. I definitely hate check/jamming against a passive opponent, though, that's going to be the worst line. Against the opponent described, I'd make a small bet and bet/fold, expecting never to get raised as a bluff.  

mersenneary's picture
http://www.handconverter.com/

http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1347168You say he's been minraising a lot, or making it 2.5x like in this hand? I'm usually folding turn in both these cases, but I don't mind your line if he's been 2.5xing a lot. It's definitely a not fun spot, but people don't bluff enough here.

mersenneary's picture
http://www.handconverter.com/

http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1347172We need more frequencies. How much has he been opening all together? If very high, even at this stack depth, then yes, this is fine.

mersenneary's picture
"Do you have any thoughts on

"Do you have any thoughts on the following hands for 3betting early, in a vaccum, vs someone that has been opening button 100% (we're 50bb deep as i play turbos); a) 54suitedb) T9 suitedc) Q7suitedd) 68 off suit"I think all of these are fine to 3bet bluff against a wider opener, I prefer flatting T9s until we get deeper if our opponent likes to 4bet wide.The bottom of your flatting range and the stuff just outside, that doesn't have an ace or a king in it, tends to be pretty good for 3bet bluffing.

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When you say pretty good for

When you say pretty good for 3 bet bluffing, does that mean better than flatting?Obviously lots of this is villain/read dependent but I'm really struggling to work out with hands like 54suited if I will have better expectation 3betting it pre or just flatting vs a villain i figure to be opening wide and cbetting wide but not necessarily calling our 3bets so wide.

soulouri's picture
Only the one strange spot

Only the one strange spot tonight;http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1348424Given that villain has a fold button, has been attacking these low card flops and given up close to 100% so far vs our 3bets pre and standard cbets, is this an ok jam?

mersenneary's picture
Yeah, I mean, "better than

Yeah, I mean, "better than flatting" is what we're trying to figure out, I think it's pretty close with a lot of those hands and good to throw in some 3bet bluffs.T8 hand looks good, especially given reads.  

soulouri's picture
Should I be raising the

Should I be raising the turn?  I flatted because I think that he will get it in on the turn with Qx but we might fold out all his draws and air, if we flat then he can continue with all this on the river in addition to his Qx hands.  I wanted to keep his range as wide as possible.http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1355154

mersenneary's picture
Yes, raise the turn, a lot of

Yes, raise the turn, a lot of his draws are close to priced in anyway. There's a lot to get value out of.Also, you say you want to keep his range wide and get more money from his draws and air, which you think he has a lot of, and yet you fold the river when the draws miss. Those aren't really compatible thoughts. If calling the turn were best for your reasons, you'd be calling this river.