Hi, i'm Pedro from Portugal (and my english kind of sucks, so sorry for that) and my sn is kasparovski @ stars were recently i've been playing mostly the $10.50 reg speed. If anyone want to add me at skype i'm pedrodmnmartins there.Don't have any great HH now but this two were against the same opponent were i've made two thin river value bets that went c/raised. My plan was to bet fold on both since villain was really passive and not showing any signs of aggression during the match. the second i don't really like my turn raise but when river came i think i had to bet fold again no? I'm problably spewing chips on both hands so yeah, i'm a donk a need your help. =) No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBchipthief651590 BTNHero1410 Effective Stacks: 71bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 60, chipthief65 calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) chipthief65 checks, Hero bets 60, chipthief65 calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) chipthief65 checks, Hero bets 120, chipthief65 calls 120 River (480, 2 players) chipthief65 bets 20, Hero raises to 300, chipthief65 goes all-in 1350, Hero folds Final Pot: 2130 chipthief65 wins 2130 ( won +540 ) Hero lost -540 No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNchipthief651565 BBHero1435 Effective Stacks: 48bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB chipthief65 raises to 60, Hero calls 30 Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, chipthief65 bets 30, Hero calls 30 Turn (180, 2 players) Hero bets 120, chipthief65 calls 120 River (420, 2 players) Hero bets 270, chipthief65 raises to 720, Hero calls 450 Final Pot: 1860 chipthief65 shows Hero shows chipthief65 wins 1860 ( won +930 ) Hero lost -930
Sorry for the results but i couldn't find the "stop action" thing.
I think the river on the first hand is indeed spew, the turn is a thin bet in and of itself, just call the river minidonk.In the second one, talk to me about why you decided to lead the turn, and we'll go from there.
At that point he was being a little bit more aggressive pos flop but still open raise very few hands (like 15%, probably less) so i really didn't put a nine in is range. when the ace came i just thought there would be less ace combos and had good fold equity. I said in the op that i don't really like it because there are still some pp and draws that would call, and is preflop range is so tight that even if there are less combos with an ace it's still a big part of it. meh, it was just bad lol. i hope i'll post better hands in the future =)
Never apologize for a hand you want help with.The big problem I have with the turn is two-fold. First of all, you're trying to fold out a very thin range: Kx/pps, and the pps are very rarely folding to one street. I want to make sure that's the framework in which you think of turn bets like this: What am I getting value from, or what am I folding out that has a better hand than me? "I think he might be weak a lot" isn't quite enough, because a lot of what's weak you actually beat, so you can check/call the turn even if he's being more aggressive, or you're fine if the hand is checked down. The second part is that if he's really only openraising 15%, that's really really not much at all. Pokerstove has it at 77+,A7s+,K9s+,QTs+,JTs,ATo+,KTo+. Even though Kx is more of a part of his range now given that, I still think you're not getting enough folds from worse hands (and should just be check/folding turn). 15% is ridiculously tight. You can still call pre I suppose just because QJs flops so well, but it's actually even close if that's really what he's raising.
Yes i thought for awhile on making the call pre. That match was kind of long and i even saw im limp KJ and QT (thought i also saw im min-raising QT), limp call A3 etc so that's why i said it might even be less than 15%. Still think i can't find the fold pre lol the hand is really pretty and the guy wasn't exactly amazing posflop. I guess that's why i also try to make the bluff on the turn, like i thought that if i call this to make it profitable sometimes i'll have to outplay him posflop but yes, the more i think about ranges the more i think it was bad because i don't even think he'll fold Kx and pp (with just one barrel at least).edit:Another thing is i saw him cr some draw boards and since he was a nit/rock for the most part for me it was hard to put i'm on Ax on the river, i never even thought on AA lol witch i still was a little surprised to not saw him cr. It looked to me as if all the hands he hit he would always bet and rr hard. i guess he understood it wasn't a all that wet flop. That made me think is river was very polarized to full houses and the AA and that's why i made the call to is rr (that and it was the second time, and tilt). Still, after the mistake on the turn what should my plan be for the river (i assume bet/fold but might be wrong)?
I've some theory questions to make and have been writing them down on a notebook but it's starting to look like a Table of Contents for a book and i know your a busy person and don't want to push my luck. So far mostly are about preflop, but i'm sure i'll have tons of postflop questions also.I'll post here some of the topics that i would like some advice from you and you answer and go as far as you want if that's ok for you. If you want i can make a separate post for each you would like to explain in more detail in the main page of the forum.Preflop:How should my open/raising/limping frequencies change as eff stacks go shorter?How should 3 bet frequencies change as eff stacks go shorter?What's a good 3bet calling range (cause i do it mostly by instinct and don't really have a framework on that) / how should it change according with villain 3bet frequencies, gameflow, sizing and as eff stacks go shorter? (one of the mistakes i think i do is calling allot someone who is always 3 betting small because i know i have position, odds, etc, but then i don't really have a plan for post flop witch leads me to my postflop questions)4betting: at my stakes i don't really 4bet bluff so i think i have a really narrow range of like 99+ to JJ (depending on the opponent) AK QQ KK AA that goes wider as eff stacks go smaller. my question here is on bet sizing (when and why to shove or make a 2.5x or something like that) and if i should always stack of on the flop if i don't shove and stay with a "my stack/pot size" ratio of something like 1:1 (that i think is what happens mostly). Also when is it good to flat some of those hands?lol i'm not even going to post posflop questions before seeing your reaction to this ones.i think you'll note that most of my question is about how do ranges change as eff stacks go shorter and that's because i seen in my hm that my bb/100 hu is something like: 10/20 30bb/100 ; 15/30 25bb/100 ; 25/50 -5bb100 ; 50/100 10bb/100 . This leads me to think that i'm doing huge mistakes at 30-15bb and that there's a lot to do with not adjusting ranges as eff stacks go shorter.edit: and obviously would appreciate some input from everyone
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBRandys Aces1420 BTNHero1580 Effective Stacks: 71bb Blinds 10/20
Hero raises to 60, Randys Aces calls 40
Randys Aces checks, Hero checks
Randys Aces bets 60, Hero calls 60
Randys Aces bets 240, Hero calls 240
Only played some 15 hands with villain, seems tight-aggressive.Is the turn call ok? Am i losing value by not re-raising river??
No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNHero1570 BBWiles841430 Effective Stacks: 72bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 60, Wiles84 calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) Wiles84 checks, Hero checks Turn (120, 2 players) Wiles84 bets 40, Hero raises to 240, Wiles84 goes all-in 1370, Hero ???? 5th hand... not much happened.
Have to call with the K4. c-bet with the 78 is standard. Turn call fine. River decision is close but I'm okay with just calling.Prior questions are too general, they need an opponent and some tendencies to go with them :)
lol been thinking about those questions and somehow knew you wouldn't want to spoon feed me and i understand why. I'll try to articulate more particular questions about them that would give me an idea of the all thing.
meh... just wish there was a way i could plug an usb device into your head, download all poker data and put it my brain (it would probably explode when receiving information though).
ok... this hand for example. Villain is tight-agg, looks solid, and 3 bet wideish.Where i'm at: it plays well pos-flop especially since i have position but i know he will barrel at least flop a high % and as it's a 3bet pot my implied odds are reduced and would be hard to navigate a pair for example.Is it still good to call? How low can i go with suited connectors (?) How about pp, can i setmine in this same situacion? How about high suited connectors, don't they suffer from reverse implied odds? (like QJs TJs or QTs J9s)?Same situation but with but with 50bb and 30bb (i'm quite sure it's a fold below that)? Again i know suited connectors playability is reduced as stacks go shorter and i'm not even sure if it's good to call the 3bet with 75bb but i just can't get a grasp for when to stop calling or even if call at all. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BTNHero1530 BBdrroid1470 Effective Stacks: 74bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 60, drroid raises to 160, Hero calls 100 Flop (320, 2 players) drroid bets 200, Hero folds Final Pot: 520 drroid wins 520 ( won +160 ) Hero lost -160
Very easy call. You can actually call all the way down to 20-25bb deep or so with a hand as strong as 98s if he's 3betting a reasonable percentage. Would be a huge mistake to fold 74bb deep espectially vs the villain described. As played poor flop, try getting dealt 97cc next time :)
$20 reg speed, 2nd hand of the match, no reads on villain. I don't know readless and as a default if i should semi-bluff turn. River i think it's a good card to bluff and i don't really put him on a J after just calling 2 streets on that board but again, readless i might be spewing no? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BB1MAB1480 BTNHero1520 Effective Stacks: 74bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BTN Hero raises to 60, 1MAB calls 40 Flop (120, 2 players) 1MAB checks, Hero bets 80, 1MAB calls 80 Turn (280, 2 players) 1MAB checks, Hero bets 160, 1MAB calls 160 River (600, 2 players) 1MAB checks, Hero bets 300
I think the turn barrel is definitely optimal, people will call that flop with a lot of stuff that is folding to a turn bet. I think a river bet is fine too - I'd make it just a little bigger, like 360-400. I'd be very surprised if you didn't get folds the 38% of the time you need a fold.
lol @ me yesterday for being so quiet and then when i tried to speak was going to say something really stupid (something like "if we would check would it be to c/c?" and we were closing the action on that street lol), i think u guys noted but just ignored lol witch was cool. Really great to ear how u guys discuss and think about this things.. one thing i realized i'm not doing much is in seeing how many chips i leave behind and measure the sizes of my bets also depending on that etc.had a question thought but didn't want to interrupt and then kind of lost my timing: when villain is donk betting a lot and then when he check he c/r, if we see he's doing that with strong equity we can assume his donk betting range is really weak no?
Definitely, that's a good conclusion to come to as well. Be careful about different board textures, etc, on that one though.