Bodog - $50.00+$2.50|<> NL - Holdem - 2 playersSB: 1,510.00Hero (BB): 1,490.00SB posts SB 10.00, Hero posts BB 20.00Pre Flop: (30.00) Hero has As 9dSB raises to 60.00, Hero calls 40.00Flop: (120.00, 2 players) 9h 4d 8sHero checks, SB bets 80.00, Hero raises to 220.00, SB calls 140.00Turn: (560.00, 2 players) KdHero bets 320.00, SB calls 320.00River: (1200.00, 2 players) 4sHero bets 890.00 and is all-in, SB calls 890.00SB shows Ad Kc (Two Pair, Kings and Fours) (PreFlop 75%, Flop 12%, Turn 95%)Hero shows As 9d (Two Pair, Nines and Fours) (PreFlop 25%, Flop 88%, Turn 5%)SB wins 2,980.00
Sorry - having problems with the hand converter - will repost as soon as I get this fixed.
You can post them like this or try http://www.handconverter.com/ and link (not sure if they do Bodog hands).As for the hand, pretty gross spot. I usually make it a little more on flop and then bet/call turn, as played, I think jamming river is thin but good.
Sorry, failed HH - still working on the converter. I should be in the remedial class.
Hmm - one of the converters should work for you. Send a message to me (mersenneary on skype) or jacktheshipper on skype and have him add you to the skype group, we should be able to get it figured out.
For the hand below, I guess my question is which part is the worst -- I'm not sure if I should fire the turn or check back with equity, and in hindsight the river seems spewwy, though I recall this opponent was pretty apt to bluff.
PokerStars Game #60797284304: Tournament #385355464, $55.00+$2.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level II (15/30) - 2011/04/13 22:02:18 CT [2011/04/13 23:02:18 ET]Table '385355464 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 1: Hero (1680 in chips)Seat 2: Sinner (1320 in chips)Hero: posts small blind 15Sinner : posts big blind 30*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Hero[Ac 5h]Hero: raises 45 to 75Sinner : calls 45*** FLOP *** [4d 6d 7c]Sinner : checksHero: bets 90Sinner : calls 90*** TURN *** [4d 6d 7c] [2s]Sinner : checksHero: checks*** RIVER *** [4d 6d 7c 2s] [7d]Sinner : bets 240Hero: calls 240*** SHOW DOWN ***Sinner : shows [Td 2d] (a flush, Ten high)Hero: mucks handSinner collected 810 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 810 | Rake 0Board [4d 6d 7c 2s 7d]Seat 1: Hero(button) (small blind) mucked [Ac 5h]Seat 2: Sinner (big blind) showed [Td 2d] and won (810) with a flush, Ten high
I'm checking the turn as well, we're not going to fold too many worse hands out, and I'm folding the river, but it really depends what you've seen so far in terms of his bluffs. There are "apt to bluff" people who take this line with Q8 and there are people who wouldn't do that and would only do it with their 95 type stuff.
Bodog History for Hand #2186782097Hold'em Tournament #1526170-1 No Limit ($50.00+$2.50) - 2011-06-20 21:58:00Table 'Entourage (Turbo) II' 2-max Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 1: Villain ($1200.00)Seat 2: Hero ($1800.00)Villain: posts the small blind $15.00Hero: posts the big blind $30.00Hero is dealt [9d,Jc]Villain: raises $30.00 to $60.00Hero: calls $30.00--- DEALING FLOP [7s,Th,2s]Hero: checksVillain: bets $90.00Hero: calls $90.00--- DEALING TURN [8c]Hero: bets $210.00Villain: calls $210.00--- DEALING RIVER [3s]Hero: checksVillain: checksHero: shows [9d Jc]Villain: mucks [JdTc]JeffDiezel: wins main pot($720.00)
Bodog History for Hand #2186810098Hold'em Tournament #1526590-1 No Limit ($50.00+$2.50) - 2011-06-20 22:29:54Table 'Entourage (Turbo) I' 2-max Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 1: Villain ($1370.00)Seat 2: Hero ($1630.00)------------------------------NEW HANDVillain : posts the small blind $10.00Hero: posts the big blind $20.00--- DEALING POCKETSHero is dealt [9c,Ad]Villain : raises $20.00 to $40.00Hero: calls $20.00--- DEALING FLOP [9d,8h,2s]Hero: checksVillain : bets $60.00Hero: raises $120.00 to $180.00Villain: calls $120.00--- DEALING TURN [7d]Hero: checksVillain: checks--- DEALING RIVER [Qd]Hero: checksVillain: checksHero: shows [9c Ad]Villain: mucksHero: wins main pot($440.00)
I strongly dislike your line with the J9. I would check/raise the turn for maximum value, expecting most of his pairs to bet again, and us to get max value against top pair. And if we donk turn, we have to bet river, even if the flush did come up. Most of his range is worse made hands - that's a bad range to check/call against, because so much of it will check back.Again, I'd definitely continue on the turn with the A9, and definitely bet river as played. Again, his range is mostly worst made hands, not missed draws. Checking is bad against that range. You may lose a lot of value by being too cautious in these types of situations.
Bodog History for Hand #2188137010Hold'em Tournament #1535853-1 No Limit ($110.00+$5.00) - 2011-06-22 23:09:09Table 'Seattle (Turbo) I' 2-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: Hero ($1640.00)Seat 2: Villain ($1360.00)------------------------------NEW HANDVillain: posts the small blind $50.00Hero: posts the big blind $100.00--- DEALING POCKETSHero is dealt [Ah,Ks]Villain: calls $50.00Hero: raises $200.00 to $300.00Villain: calls $200.00--- DEALING FLOP [Tc,4d,9s]Hero: bets $400.00Villain: foldsHero: uncalled return $400.00Hero: mucksHand 2188137010:Hero: wins main pot($600.00)
This is probably a simple situation, but it comes up a decent amount in end game against passive players. Opponent is pretty passive, loose and will fold to most c bets. Not very likely to get out of line. Maybe my 3x is too much preflop, but Villain is kind of loose so I want to charge him for calling. Preflop bet makes the stack sizes a little awkward for my post flop bet. I assume my line given the dead money has to be bet/call. Looking back on it, I probably like a smaller c/bet to induce jams with dominated hands (though this is a little unlikely from this opponent), but I guess I got a little jumpy so I panicked and bet 400.Also, quick math check. Supposing he jams for 660, the equity I need to have in the hand to call is equal to 660 / (600 + 400 + 660 + 600), or .284. Seems like AKo will have a ton more equity on average than that, so this looks like a definite call. Is that right?
I usually make it 350 pre with the AKo, not a fun spot as played but I'm probably still bet/calling as well. I don't think 3x is too much at all, if he's really loose, we can even make it 375-400 and just get the stacks even better set up.I don't really think a smaller c-bet is best. Most stuff that jams has the correct equity to get it in against our hand, so we're not really inducing very much at all.Your math is off just a bit. One quick way to do it: The pot will be 2720 if you call (2x effective stack). 660/2720 = 24.3%. Which is even more of a call once you bet than you thought :)
Thanks for the analysis - very helpful.
Do you have any tips in transitioning from single tabling to multi tabling? I am trying to transition and have not multi tabled heads up matches much and would appreciate any general advice that might help me get up the curve faster.
Start with two at stakes you're comfortable with. Never rush yourself. Take a beat on every decision. Consciously focus on how the players have different frequencies and why you should be doing different things on different tables. It's OK to use the timebank and go slowly at first if necessary.
I've seen in a few videos comments where the instructor notes it would be bad to raise because we would knock the air out of the villain's range. How does that concept get balanced against the need to charge draws and get value? The interaction that comes to mind is that on dry boards we should be more apt to keep air in the villain's range and on wet boards we should weight more heavily towards charging draws and getting value. Aggression level of the villian seems like a factor, too, since it increases the value we can expect from villain bluffing off his chips with air. This is obviously a very simplistic view, but I'd be curious to hear your thoughts and other factors that should be considered.
It really depends on board texture, our hand strength, perceived range, villain's range, gameflow. Post some hands where you think this thought process would apply!A few examples (sorry for the format, but I'm just making up hh's here):Effective Stacks 1350 (blinds 10/20)Hero raises to 60 with AKo and Villain flats (pot 120)Flop KQ2Villain checks...Hero cbets 60...Villain check-raises to 190...Hero???This is the kind of board where a c/r is going to be very polarized between top pair+ that will stack off, and complete air that will snap-fold to a 3bet. So we have to ask ourselves, how will villain's value range respond if we 3bet or we flat? Villains value range (KX, 2pair, 22, AA) is going to stack off the vast majority of the time on future streets when we call, there are very few action-killing cards that can come on the turn that will eliminate our value. So by flatting, we keep bluffs in villains range and we are more under-repped (we don't look like AK as much).Another scenario:Effective Stacks 1350 (blinds 10/20)Hero Raises to 60 with K3hh and villain flats (pot 120)Flop KQ8Hero Cbets 60...Villain check-raises to 200...Hero???The problem here is that if we 3bet there are just very few (maybe zero) hands that villain is c/r and stacking off with that we are ahead of. We correctly turn our K3 into a bluff-catcher here and call off on many turn/river cards (barring great reads where we can fold).Another scenario:Effective Stacks 1350 (blinds 10/20)Hero raises to 60 with A9 and villain calls (pot 120)Flop is 983hhHero cbets 60....Villain check-raises to 180....Hero???Unlike the board texture of the AK hand, there are A TON of turn cards that suck for us here when we flat. Too many action-killing cards for when villain has K9/Q9 type hands, we allow draws to play correctly and realize their equity easily. It is a board that not many players c/r bluff on, there are a ton of hands that the average player will c/r and get it in with on this board (over+fd, JT, QT, 9X, etc etc). We do well versus that range getting in on the flop...not so well vs that range when we flat and "reevaluate".Hope that helps. I think it would really be good if you posted some hands though.Hokie
Bodog History for Hand Hold'em Tournament No Limit ($110.00+$5.00) Table 'Seattle (Turbo) V' 2-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: villain ($1355.00)Seat 2: JeffDiezel ($1645.00)------------------------------NEW HANDJeffDiezel: posts the small blind $15.00villain: posts the big blind $30.00--- DEALING POCKETSJeffDiezel is dealt [9s,6c]JeffDiezel: raises $30.00 to $60.00villain: calls $30.00--- DEALING FLOP [3c,6d,9d]villain: checksJeffDiezel: bets $65.00villain: raises $125.00 to $190.00JeffDiezel: goes all in $1520.00villain: foldsJeffDiezel: uncalled return $1395.00JeffDiezel: mucksHand 2224172608:JeffDiezel: wins main pot($500.00)
Some background - I've played a few games with villain and feel like he thinks I'm spewwy. At the time this happened, I had stuck in a bunch of raises and check raises, so felt like he might think that I'd get it in light here. Plus I thought there was a decent chance he would c/r with a flush draw. Looking back on this, my jam doesn't seem very good because it's so large and not that many draws can continue. Better to call the check raise and plan on getting it in on the turn?
The problem with flatting is that there are so many hands that he can stack off with on the flop vs a jam (or a 3bet/get it in) that will shut down on certain turn cards. If he is c/r T9 he will stack off on the flop - but if turn is a 6 or an overcard most villains will shut down a lot and you will have a hard time getting full stacks.If he c/r an over with a flushdraw and bricks the turn a lot of villains will c/c and c/f rivers. You will def get stacks on the flop.I think a fair generalization is that the average player doesn't c/r these wet boards with hands that fold to a 3bet often at all. Especially if they think you are aggro and play back a lot.I think a non-allin 3bet looks a lot stronger than a jam. I expect pretty much the exact same range to call a jam that would continue vs a non-allin 3bet. Plus, I think most villains view a jam as weaker/more drawy.If the board texture was less the type that will change so drastically on the turn, I would like a flat on the flop a lot more. For example, if our AK on AK3 gets c/r - I would hate a 3bet from us - just flat, AX is getting in almost no matter what the turn and river is for most players.Does that make sense?
Makes a lot of sense - thanks for your thoughts. These are spots where I doubt myself based on results, so it's great to have you and others to bounce these spots off of. Thanks!
Makes a lot of sense - thanks for your thoughts. These are spots where I doubt myself based on results, so it's great to have you and others to bounce these spots off of. Thanks!
Bodog History for Hand #2240015027Hold'em Tournament #1926874-1 No Limit ($110.00+$5.00) - 2011-08-25 22:51:53Table 'Seattle (Turbo) III' 2-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: My nemisis ($1760.00)Seat 2: JeffDiezel ($1240.00)------------------------------NEW HANDJeffDiezel: posts the small blind $10.00My nemisis: posts the big blind $20.00--- DEALING POCKETSJeffDiezel is dealt [Ah,Th]JeffDiezel: raises $40.00 to $60.00My nemisis: raises $120.00 to $180.00JeffDiezel: calls $120.00--- DEALING FLOP [6c,As,7s]My nemisis: bets $180.00JeffDiezel: calls $180.00--- DEALING TURN [8d]My nemisis: goes all in $1400.00JeffDiezel: goes all in $880.00My nemisis: uncalled return $520.00My nemisis: shows [Ac Jh]JeffDiezel: shows [Ah Th]--- DEALING RIVER [9s]My nemisis: shows [Ac Jh]
This hand occurred against an aggressive reg on Bodog. He's dominated me in our matches together and I'm not really sure about my lines here. I flatted the flop with the intention of calling turn and river because I think he would barrel off.
Bodog History for Hand #2240028915Hold'em Tournament #1926874-1 No Limit ($110.00+$5.00) - 2011-08-25 23:05:51Table 'Seattle (Turbo) III' 2-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: My nemisis ($1330.00)Seat 2: JeffDiezel ($1670.00)------------------------------NEW HANDJeffDiezel: posts the small blind $25.00My nemisis: posts the big blind $50.00--- DEALING POCKETSJeffDiezel is dealt [2h,Ad]JeffDiezel: raises $50.00 to $100.00My nemisis: calls $50.00--- DEALING FLOP [8d,Kh,Ac]My nemisis: checksJeffDiezel: bets $100.00My nemisis: calls $100.00--- DEALING TURN [6c]My nemisis: checksJeffDiezel: checks--- DEALING RIVER [7s]My nemisis: bets $200.00JeffDiezel: calls $200.00My nemisis: shows [8c Th]
This is another hand from the same match. I checked the turn here for deceptive value because I think he's seen me only play my aces fast from the button. I'm curious how bad my turn check is an also why he leads out the river. It doesn't make much sense to me. Maybe he thinks he's folding out any Kx in my range, but that doesn't seem that likely (unless he thinks I'm way too nitty). Also, a lot of draws missed, so on a board like this after checking the turn I'm at least somewhat likely to give up the river if I've got air (especially because I know he'll make tough calls).
AT hand looks really standard to me. I'm never folding there. There shouldn't be a lot of AX in your preflop flatting range...if he's good he may know that so your perceived range is pretty weak - though your range does slightly improve on this turn but not too much. Def an easy call imo.I hate the turn check on the 2nd hand. You give free equity to a lot of hand combos that would call a 2nd barrel. He is never folding KX when you barrel here - and that is going to be a big part of his range at these effective stacks I would say.
This hand came up pretty early in the match, no major reads. Two questions (1) thoughts on my check raise? (2) is this too light to call or am I too nitty for questioning this? Table Bison Room - Turbo Heads Up, (Tournament: Bison Room - Turbo Heads Up, Buy-In: $0+$0.00)Seat 1: Hero ($1,555.00 in chips)Seat 2: Villain ($1,400.00 in chips) DEALERVillain: Post SB $15.00Hero: Post BB $30.00*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Hero [Qs Jh]Villain: Raise $60.00Hero: Call $30.00*** FLOP *** [8s Js 6h]Hero: CheckVillain: Bet $90.00Hero: Raise $240.00Villain: Allin $1,265.00Hero: Call $1,115.00*** TURN *** [Ad]*** RIVER *** [9s]*** SUMMARY ***Hero: Shows [Qs Jh]Villain: Shows [8h 6c]Villain: wins $2,830.00
If I'm c/r this board, I am never folding to a jam. Too many draws and worse JX. Really standard imo.
how's your month going? post some hands or any questions!
Bodog History for Hand #2264144621Hold'em Tournament #No Limit ($110.00+$5.00) Table 'Seattle (Turbo) II' 2-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: Villain ($1830.00)Seat 2: JeffDiezel ($1170.00)------------------------------NEW HANDJeffDiezel: posts the small blind $25.00Villain: posts the big blind $50.00--- DEALING POCKETSJeffDiezel is dealt [6h,Qh]JeffDiezel: raises $50.00 to $100.00Villain: calls $50.00--- DEALING FLOP [Ah,9d,Td]Villain: checksJeffDiezel: checks--- DEALING TURN [9c]Villain: checksJeffDiezel: bets $125.00Villain: calls $125.00--- DEALING RIVER [Jd]Villain: checksJeffDiezel: bets $350.00Villain: calls $350.00JeffDiezel: shows [6h Qh]Villain: shows [7d 2d]Hand 2264144621:Villain: wins main pot($1150.00)------------------------------
I'm interested in your thoughts on my river play - I actually thought this was a decent spot to bluff because I think I'm folding out a lot of Aces and Tens but I'm not sure.
Thanks for the encouragement - I'm trying to start posting hands as part of my "Tendler" cool down routine and am focused on doing a better job of that. I'm also trying to get myself into a more regular schedule in terms of taking at least one day per week off, making time to watch videos and reviewing hand histories. My results have been up and down, but I feel that I'm getting on track again, which is more important to me than the short term money. More to come . . .
Bodog History for Hand #2264157084Hold'em Tournament #2105074-1 No Limit ($50.00+$2.50) - 2011-09-21 21:04:07Table 'Entourage (Turbo) X' 2-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: Villain ($1600.00)Seat 2: JeffDiezel ($1400.00)------------------------------NEW HANDJeffDiezel: posts the small blind $10.00Villain: posts the big blind $20.00--- DEALING POCKETSJeffDiezel is dealt [8d,8h]JeffDiezel: raises $40.00 to $60.00Villain: calls $40.00--- DEALING FLOP [Th,8c,6s]Villain: checksJeffDiezel: bets $60.00Villain: calls $60.00--- DEALING TURN [Qh]Villain: bets $240.00JeffDiezel: raises $360.00 to $600.00Villain: calls $360.00--- DEALING RIVER [9c]Villain: goes all in $880.00JeffDiezel: goes all in $680.00Villain: uncalled return $200.00Villain: shows [Jh Qc]JeffDiezel: shows [8d 8h]Villain: shows [Jh Qc]JeffDiezel: shows [8d 8h]Hand 2264157084:Villain: wins main pot($2800.00)
Not really sure what to make of this hand, other than the river sucks. The turn lead to me feels like 2 pair. Trying not to be results oriented - should my turn sizing be larger or do you think my size was ok? I assume I'm just stuck calling, but curious if you disagree.
Q6: if villain is calling wide oop, i would definitely cbet this flop. i could see checking back some of the total air in your range if he's calling tight though, as this board crushes a c/c range (i think it's a leak to just say cbet all AXX boards vs anyone)as played, delayed cbet on turn looks great but gotta be giving up this river. you don't rep anything other than a checked back 9X on flop. plus people will be pretty skeptical of this line and look you up light. also, villain will have a lot of JX in range that isn't folding river much.
glad to hear about the mental game work. good job.88: cbet flop bigger t80. it's a wet board, people dont actually adjust to sizings that much - like noone is folding any draw/pair here obv. so build the pot with a big hand.turn looks good.river is a fold, but it's disgusting obv. you need to be good 24.8% of the time you call his river jam. given how much JX/7X make snese for his range, and bluffs make no sense - i dont think you are going to be ahead nearly enough for a call. vomit and fold!
------------------------------ Bodog History for Hand #2273005193 Hold'em Tournament #2174052-1 No Limit ($110.00+$5.00) - 2011-10-01 17:22:41 Table 'Seattle (Turbo) II' 2-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: Villain ($695.00) Seat 2: Hero ($2305.00) ------------------------------ NEW HAND Villain: posts the small blind $15.00 Hero: posts the big blind $30.00 --- DEALING POCKETS Hero is dealt [Qh,Ks] Villain: calls $15.00 Hero: raises $45.00 to $75.00 Villain: calls $45.00 --- DEALING FLOP [Kc,7d,7h] Hero: checks Villain: checks --- DEALING TURN [4s] Hero: bets $80.00 Villain: calls $80.00 --- DEALING RIVER [Jh] Hero: bets $150.00 Villain: goes all in $540.00 Hero: calls $390.00 Villain: shows [9c 7s] Hero: shows [Qh Ks] Villain: shows [9c 7s] Hero: shows [Qh Ks] Hand 2273005193: Villain: wins main pot($1390.00) ------------------------------
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Bodog History for Hand #2273003143 Hold'em Tournament #2174052-1 No Limit ($110.00+$5.00) - 2011-10-01 17:20:06 Table 'Seattle (Turbo) II' 2-max Seat #1 is the button Seat 1: Villain ($935.00) Seat 2: Hero ($2065.00) ------------------------------ NEW HAND Villain: posts the small blind $10.00 Hero: posts the big blind $20.00 --- DEALING POCKETS Hero is dealt [Ac,Jd] Villain: raises $20.00 to $40.00 Hero: raises $80.00 to $120.00 Villain: calls $80.00 --- DEALING FLOP [3d,8d,6d] Hero: bets $100.00 Villain: goes all in $815.00 Hero: folds Villain: uncalled return $715.00 Villain: mucks Hand 2273003143: Villain: wins main pot($440.00) ------------------------------
This is a pretty general question, but suppose you are playing an opponent that you think you have a significant edge against. When you approach end game, at what point in bb terms are you abandoning the idea of trying to outplay them and sticking to push fold? Against opponents that I think I have a good edge against, it is very frustrating to grind them down and then get it in flipping. I tend to be too nitty anyway, so I probably just need to get over it and get it in according to Nash, but curious what your thoughts are on these situations.
will update tomorrow
KQ: i like preflop/flop/turn a lot. well played. river i think is a fold though - frustrating, for sure. we need to be good 390/1380 or about 30%...we really just beat pure bluffs. i don't think u see that nearly 30% of the time here. AJ: hmm, given how much AdXx (that you beat), KdQ/KdJ-Kd9x type stuff (you flip against a lot of it), QdX, T9, 97 type stuff. Actually a ton of draws you are doing reasonable against, even if they have a higher diamond than you. his single pair hands you are doing well against too. Pretty hard for you to be crushed here really unless he has like Ad and a pair.
This is a pretty general question, but suppose you are playing an opponent that you think you have a significant edge against. When you approach end game, at what point in bb terms are you abandoning the idea of trying to outplay them and sticking to push fold? Against opponents that I think I have a good edge against, it is very frustrating to grind them down and then get it in flipping. I tend to be too nitty anyway, so I probably just need to get over it and get it in according to Nash, but curious what your thoughts are on these situations.8 or 9 bb's is the absolute lowest I can see limping - this would be against the absolute worst players in limped pots that just c/f wayyy too much. In general, it's a lot better to be too aggro than too nitty if you are leaking in your endgame play - this is because our average opponent folds way too much, so being real aggro is often correct anyways.