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shawnty's picture
Hyper $1.5 weak top pair + gutshot

Is it correct to shove here or should i fold? Villain has been pretty nitty and I thought he might feel like he was getting run over and decided to do this a flush/straight draw. And I thought if he has a hand like 2 pair, trips or a better pair I could always suck out:DNo Limit Holdem Tournament
2 Players
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$1.44+$0.06
SB lhm61 340
BB Hero 660

Effective Stacks: 11bb

Blinds 15/30

Pre-Flop (45, 2 players)
Hero is BB with s8 s6

lhm61 calls 15, Hero checks

Flop (60, 2 players)
h7 d8 h4

Hero bets 30, lhm61 raises to 120, Hero raises to 570, lhm61 goes all-in 190

Turn (940, 2 players)
s5

River (940, 2 players)
c9

Final Pot: 940

lhm61 shows
c8 hK

Hero shows
s8 s6

Hero wins 940 ( won +340 )

lhm61 lost -340

nekrogovner's picture
Not good imo. Villain has a

Not good imo. Villain has a tight/nit image and therefore probably isn't capable of big bluffs. His raise size is commiting, which means he isn't giving up on hand no matter what you do, and therefore you are probably crushed. As a nit he also doesn't have any weak 8s in his preflop calling range.

shawnty's picture
Okay thanks! I actually felt

Okay thanks! I actually felt this was to loose but I had a stupid gutfeeling telling me he was on a draw which obviously was wrong. I need to start giving nitty players way more cred I think

nekrogovner's picture
He'd prolly jam any 7, draw,

He'd prolly jam any 7, draw, maybe 4. It was probably a mistake by him to just raise flop, if he shoved he would represent much wider range.

crstn's picture
let's look at stack eff stack

let's look at eff stack sizes!I think we never ever can fold top pair + gs this shallow

nekrogovner's picture
I can, if villain is so

I can, if villain is so transparent.

RyPac13's picture
I wouldn't ever fold here

I wouldn't ever fold here without definitive reads, but I can't realistically picture ever having those reads here.11bb, top pair with a gutter, draw heavy board, been dominating an opponent... if this is a single match (no history), I don't see how anybody could be nitty enough to make you fold TP, especially with 18% of your stack committed on the flop before he raises.