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LaoSfa's picture
(HT) 22$ Turn x/r & River Bluff

Hi, its my first HH post and I'm looking for feedback on how I played this hand out and on my thought process.

History on villian- Mostly passive preflop & postflop, decent competent player. He is capable of thin value barrels, slowplaying on dryboards to induce bluffs

Thought process

Preflop- Villian limps on BU and limps very often, saw no reason to raise w marginal hand oop especially when he limp/calls very often aswell 

Postflop- On the Flop decided to x/c & bluff most Turn cards if he fired 2 sts, since he cbets almost always when checked to & didn't see him folding much value hands in a limp pot especially when he knows I'm aggressive 

Turn- On the Turn he bets again and I thought he mostlikely wasn't bluffing since from my notes he's on the passive side, & range of hands I put him on was mostly Jx Qx or better maybe some 9x or TT but I expected him to check back those hands. I decided to x/r since I'd raise my strong Qx 2Pairs or better 

River- On the River I thought he's range was heavily towards Jx  maybe some 9x & TT & thought I could get those hands to fold against this specific player and maybe even some Qx but not so sure.

 

Any thoughts if I should've played this hand differently?

Was my Turn betsizing good?

Should've I followed through on River?

Anything wrong with my reads?

 

 

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Merge Network Game 76308579-18 / Tournament
Table 2 - 27.03.14 - 14:12
Blinds : 40/80
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2 players
[But]+[SB] Villian (1520)
[BB] Hero (1600)

Hero T 6Initial Pot: 120
Villian calls 40
Hero checks
### FLOP ### 5 J 9Pot: 160
Hero checks
Villian bets 88
Hero calls 88
### TURN ### QPot: 336
Hero checks
Villian bets 188
Hero raises 385
Villian calls 197
### RIVER ### 3Pot: 1106
Hero is All in
Villian folds
Hero mucks
Hero wins 2153 from the main pot

 

adam25185's picture
The problem, as I see it, is

The problem, as I see it, is that all the draws missed, except 10-8 and K-10. This makes bluffing a competant player difficult at the best of times. But, to make matters worse, you put your opponent on a hand as strong as 2nd (or even top) pair. In my view, you should stick to bluffing your opponent when he has a weak hand, or, better still, when he has nothing / is bluffing himself.

In general, I don't think the c/c flop and c/r turn line gets very much credit. Hence, I generally take this line only with strong hands. 

 

LaoSfa's picture
Thanks, Also

Thanks I don't ever take that  line just something different I tried and wasn't too sure about, Afterwards villian told me he had TT, do you think in that spot he should be checking back TT or valuebet  it considering Qx should hit my flop calling range and do you think I should've c/r Flop instead & barreled Turn?

Would you hero call me with TT on the river?

adam25185's picture
Thanks I don't ever take that

Thanks I don't ever take that line just something different I tried and wasn't too sure about, Afterwards villian told me he had TT, do you think in that spot he should be checking back TT or valuebet it considering Qx should hit my flop calling range and do you think I should've c/r Flop instead & barreled Turn?

Would you hero call me with TT on the river?

 

I would almost always cbet the flop with TT. The only way I wouldn't would be if my opponent had a completely psychotic c/r tendency (perhaps 50% c/r). On the turn, the decision to bet or check back depends very much on the opponents (i.e. your) tendencies. If my opponent was particularly loose-passive, he could call me with any draw, 5x or 9x. In that case, I would indeed barrell the turn for value. Against most other players, I think it makes more sense to check back, see your draw to the K or 8, and check down, bluff catch or fold on the river.

I think, for the price you are being offered (that is, half pot on the flop and turn) I would prefer to flat call. You have said that your opponent cbets frequently, which makes a c/r more attractive. c/r could be the best line sometimes, if your opponent is capable of folding. I think a big barell on the turn Q could be a good play.

No, there are no circumstances under which I would call with TT vs a river shove.