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Zialum's picture
Facing minraise on flop

No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$6 + $0.25 Heads Up Sit & Go Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1500 SBmcdonoob1500  Effective Stacks: 50bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB mcdonoob raises to 60, Hero raises to 180, mcdonoob calls 120   Flop (360, 2 players) Hero bets 220, mcdonoob raises to 440, Hero goes all-in 1320, mcdonoob folds   Final Pot: 2120

Very first hand of the match.I don't think I love my line but I don't like calling or folding either. Any thoughts?

 

qattack's picture
I think preflop you should

I think preflop you should flat his raise, so as not to build a big pot OOP. I just finished watching a series of low stakes videos, and this was a common theme among of many of them.Especially early on, you don't know much about your opponent. Keep the pot small and you will have more room to work with. These low-stakes villains tend to build a pot for you when you hit.I don't know what to say about the flop. The pot is already getting big and you are basically desperately chasing your preflop raise. You have only four to seven outs if he has any sort of hand. And if he is making a play at you here, I assume you will get paid off in future hands if you fold this one.

wabomushroom's picture
3bet pf is super standard

3bet pf is super standard here. I even belive that with flating you are losing so much value it's insane. I prefer check/raise on flop, that is if you are certain our villain will fire after being checked to him.

RyPac13's picture
I agree with the 3bet in low

I agree with the 3bet in low stakes games specifically, it's a strong enough hand against the average opponent that calls 3bets much too wide.  I don't think it's amazingly better than flatting or anything, in a higher stakes game you might consider flatting this against a non fish, since you don't get as much value from their very loose and wide calling range and building big pots OOP in general early vs a random semi competent opponent without a strong hand or clear fold equity is a good way to reduce your edge ceiling.However, leading the flop and then shoving over a minraise on this board looks like it will hurt you much more often than help.  You have pretty low equity against many legitimate hands and I don't think you are facing a bluff all that often from a majority of players on this board.  A fairly wide calling range usually includes broadway hands first, many of which have you hit pretty hard equity wise.  You can argue that by the time you lead and face a raise, you're closer to being pot committed against a range that includes a lot of draws you have better equity against, but I think the lead in the first place might be the mistake on this type of a heavy action board vs the average opponent.Basically, if you're 3betting for value here preflop against the average opponent, this board has too many hands that play large pots and have too much equity against your hand to play it this way.  Reads can change that, but we're talking about unknown/random opponent.