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Ask A Pro: heybude/Mirttinur
October 26, 2011 - 17:27
This is a thread where you can ask me well thought out questions about anything and receive a well thought out answer (I stole this line from Phil Galfond).
For those who don't know me I used to play high stakes HU sng's on Pokerstars and high stakes HU cash games. I now don't play poker anymore, I work for a market making firm in Chicago as a trader. Despite this, I probably have better insights now about poker than I was when I was playing. You can ask me questions about trading as well but I have to warn you I probably won't be able to answer anything about specific strategies, but I will be able to answer questions on the transition and what my life is like now.
I don't have any fancy graphs to show you but I will share with you my lifetime winrate at heads up cash was 8.2ptBB/100, with most of my winnings at 25/50, and I mostly played average or semi strong regulars. I never had great success profit wise at HU SNGs mostly because I played a shitload of tables and didnt game select, but I was well respected.
SO ask away.
October 26, 2011 - 17:31#1
Who's the better looking twin
Who's the better looking twin between you and your awesome brother?
October 26, 2011 - 17:35#3
If you guys want to read up
If you guys want to read up on Danny/heybude, you can do so here in the heybude profile.
October 26, 2011 - 17:59#4
HUSNG against a calling station
HU sng against a calling station.
I know the general answer is "wait until you get a hand and value bet the life out of them!"
But what if you don't get a hand?
What if you only get 32o, 84o, 72s, etc for the whole session?
They don't fold to bluffs, so what do you do?
Do you just give up on the session and say "oh well"?
How do you fight back?
I haven't seen this addressed anywhere, just the general answer is given.
October 27, 2011 - 00:35#6
Do you enjoy your job? Is
Do you enjoy your job?
Is it hard working a 9 to 5 as oppose to the flexible schedule poker allows? Or do you have a flexible schedule at your current position?
October 27, 2011 - 05:05#8
is your preference for the
is your preference for the current job over poker not just based on it being newer/less repetitive as of now etc? and how strongly do you feel about whatever you answer to this question
October 27, 2011 - 11:56#9
Hey man, thanks for doing
thanks for doing this. I totally like "Wells". I have one question about endgame. I created a topic a while ago:
I still have no clue how to aproach this problem. In the endgame I am mostly clicking buttons by feel, so how would you aproach aotodidactically getting a "feel" for the endgame?
Thanks in advance
October 27, 2011 - 12:47#10
describe your typical day at
describe your typical day at work.
do you make a investment decisions on your own brokerage account (something similar to poker). or you can't have your own brokerage account if you work in financial institution?
Do you want to become an independent investor?
do you improve your knowledge about technical analysis or simply you don't need it at work?
October 27, 2011 - 19:00#14
Wow 5:30 to 5:30 sounds
Wow 5:30 to 5:30 sounds rough! At least you enjoy the work.
October 27, 2011 - 19:07#15
as a market maker do you do
as a market maker do you do any discretionary trading at all? can your job only be done at a firm than at home cause of the technology of the firm? do you have to be good at math or probabilities to be a market maker? are you paid by salary and bonus or can you also get paid by percentage of what you make for the firm?
October 28, 2011 - 22:34#18
Thanks for doing this. What
Thanks for doing this.
What types of ways did you study to become so good theoretically? Do you have an education background in game theory/statistics/etc?
In your profile, you mention being obsessed with optimal play. What is the best way for a player without a strong or deep math background to work on this?
I really envy the mathematical knowledge base guys like you, your bro, Mers, and Skates have. I was a History major in college...was always pretty good at math, but never thought I would want to make a career out of it - wish I knew 10 years ago what I'd be doing for a living today. It's never too late to learn new things though, and I've considered going back to school and studying statistics/game theory.
Considering the high cost of education and the time I would spend doing this, it's probably not +EV for my poker career - plenty of guys do great in this game without a really sick mathematical understanding. I have developed a lot of skills (calculated risk-taking, money management, self-awareness/mental game) that I think would be complemented well by a much more solid mathematical mindset and would make me a better poker player, and possibly improve my EV in other future ventures as well (real estate investing, stock market, etc...not sure yet).
I would really appreciate your opinion on this.
October 29, 2011 - 07:35#20
I might have some ability in husng's but I need an honest opinion about my graph.
My sn is neveragain39 on pstars.
Simple question, have I just been running above average, or is everyone horribly bad in micro levels? or with some coaching
would I be able to successfully move up levels and make the investment pay-off?
October 30, 2011 - 00:50#22
"Brain Townsend once said
"Brain Townsend once said that he thought if a player didn't get to high stakes in 6 months they never would."
This should be a Bias 101 question.
October 30, 2011 - 11:02#23
did you use stoxEV/flopzilla
did you use cardrunnersEV/flopzilla to analyze play (or any similar programs)? i don't really know any husng regs that use programs like this to study. i don't see why not though, unless there is some cash-specific aspect about these programs that i don't know of.
did you watch many HU cash videos coming up? if so, who made the best vids? (i have a bluefire membership)
October 30, 2011 - 12:01#24
Great thead! What advice can
What advice can give you to regulars who are beating the game with a solid, straightforward game but who want to become more creative and move up to the higher stakes?
October 30, 2011 - 14:47#25
can you describe what traits
can you describe what traits you developed from poker that really helps you in trading?
October 30, 2011 - 16:04#26
Hi, thank you for the great
thank you for the great thread! before discovering husngs, i frequently visited flopturnriver.com and really enjoyed ur writings there.
You wrote in ur profile here @ husng.com that "I used timing and gameflow tells more than anyone else I knew." Do you think you can share some of ur "Tips & Tricks" with us?
In ur post "My Battle with Isildur" @ suited-aces.com, you wrote: "After playing him for an hour I began to see the specific ways that he played badly and adjusted appropriately. Some of the ways he played badly were really surprising to me. Some of them were pretty expected. I don’t want to go into the adjustments because pointing them out will encourage people to give him action..."
I don't think i will play him in the near future..:))) but it would be interesting to read about what "those specific ways he played badly" were and what adjustments you made...
November 1, 2011 - 21:33#31
First off thanks for doing
First off thanks for doing this, I think it's a great idea. I have sort of an abstract question, but if there isn't a direct answer I'd love to just hear your thoughts on the matter. When I was recording my video series with Skates I noticed that he talked a lot about framing a player's game "into a box". Basically, if I wasn't misunderstanding, he was saying that if you use static strategies in basic (or even complex) situations, he can calculate the optimal counterstrategy and exploit you.
To what extent and in what situations do you think this happens in the tougher high stakes matches now? Are you starting a match looking for edges where villain's range is fixed or are you also looking for edges in his perceived future adjustments? I think a lot of people use static ranges in simple preflop spots at 20bb and lower but theoretically that static range could be very close to GTO and you still wouldn't be able to exploit it dramatically unless he was braindead. Another spot might be minraising 100% at full stacks, this is a static strategy but also one that can't really get you into trouble regardless of who you're playing. Personally I find myself trying to break down someone's thought process rather than their exact ranges, because over the course of a match (4 tabling cash for example) those ranges are going to change on the fly. Basically I'm curious if you can think of a spot or two where most good players' ranges are static and a few spots where most good players' ranges are dynamic, and how you might go about exploiting both cases.
November 1, 2011 - 22:45#32
Hey I am a huge fan of your blog, thanks so much for this thread. Here is my question: If I am striving to play optimally (game theory wise) in hypers (25bbs) and turbos (75bbs), where should my c/r % be higher based on stack sizes?
November 4, 2011 - 12:49#35
Hello As I read in book
As I read in book raiser's edge, GTO play under 20bb is mostly limping and 2x raising is rare, especially with 15bb.
So my question is, why is raising with shorter stacks so exploitable and what is the best way to exploit it.And why with bigger stacksizes raising becomes more and more optimal.
November 8, 2011 - 17:56#37
Hi How will you usually play
How will you usually play a hand like A4 or 35 on J83 flop vs someone, who check-raises nonstop, in shorter (20-30bb) and deeper (around 100bb) stack scenarios? Lets say he calls 40% from bb, 3bets 20%, check-raises this flop 60% and check-calls rarely (maybe 8x and smth else). If we check, he bets all his pairs, draws and many bluffs on the turn and continues on the river a lot. If we call his check-raise he will barell with high frequeny too.
November 13, 2011 - 11:34#39
Thanks for the well, I am
Thanks for the well, I am enjoying it, just thinking about smart questions to ask ;) although i liked Hokies questions already. OK one i have right now, Whats the SN of your brother? is he as known/good as you?
November 16, 2011 - 11:10#41
[quote]When figuring out
[quote]When figuring out how to beat anyone you have to figure out in what ways they are playing exploitably and how to adjust to that correctly. Specifically when playing a player who seems to call too often in many spots, there are a few important drivers of your EV.
1. Find the exact spots where he doesn't fold much, and don't bluff him there.
2. With weak equity hands, align them in lines where your opponent is going to play passively. Without bluffing equity, you simply want to see as many cards as possible.
3. With strong hands, align them in lines where your opponent is going to call the most in the biggest pots.
I could seriously go on forever about theory but to make it simpler those are the important points.[/quote]
Would you give me an hh example of this in progress, how much do you pay attention to villains frequencies that you can exploit and how much in way that you are not being exploited? What kind of husng calculations can and should i make with CREV?
November 18, 2011 - 05:12#42
What learn/play ratio did you
What learn/play ratio did you use in the very beginning of your career? I sometimes feel like 'you do not know enough at all, since you are still learning with each new video' on the other hand, I am thinking that it would be better to watch 2 videos, play, put it in practice other than watching 20 videos and then start with the playing....
November 20, 2011 - 10:00#43
"What learn/play ratio did
"What learn/play ratio did you use in the very beginning of your career? I sometimes feel like 'you do not know enough at all, since you are still learning with each new video' on the other hand, I am thinking that it would be better to watch 2 videos, play, put it in practice other than watching 20 videos and then start with the playing...."
I am not an organized person, I didn't really have a learn/play ratio and should've done a lot more sitting down and work with StoxEV/CREV in my career, it would've helped immensely. Most of my learning involved passive thinking or talking with other players. I think potentially there is a lot to gain from using CREV. But there is a lot of learning from playing obviously. I learned a ton by examining other peoples strategies and thinking about what would be good or bad about them, and copying the good.
November 20, 2011 - 10:09#44
"Would you give me an hh
"Would you give me an hh example of this in progress, how much do you pay attention to villains frequencies that you can exploit and how much in way that you are not being exploited? What kind of husng calculations can and should i make with CREV?"
I'm not sure an HH would be a good example and given I haven't played in months I'm not sure I could bring one up. One example is a player I used to play who when he cold called preflop would c/r my cbets with 40% frequency, hands as low in value as good mid pair and all good draws and decent air hands and then two and three barrel with a very high frequency. When I checked behind the flop he wasn't absurdly aggressive and folded preflop enough to justify opening every hand. Although he did c/r a high %, he rarely cold called, his fold to flop cbet was around 50%. In this situation I played incredibly exploitably, cbetting only like top pair or better, flush draws and oesd or combos, cbetting all air, and checking behind weak top pair or less sd value. Vs this strategy I think he could've started c/ring even a higher frequency of hands and stopped two and three barreling me a lot and would've killed me, but he didn't.
I rarely didn't take a super exploitable counter strategy, because I wanted to make the most money I possibly could and played a lot of players who didn't adjust their games very quickly. This really bit me in the ass against better players. If I started playing again I probably would not play as exploitably as I did before.
With CREV, I think the sort of calculations that are best to do is to figure out what sort of ranges you should be playing against given opponent frequencies.
December 1, 2011 - 05:58#46
Do you think a good poker
Do you think a good poker player has high probability to make a good (private) trader?
I´ve never tried trading (only long term investing), but the problem is that trading is about finding patterns (I guess) and the human is a pattern seeking creature, we think we see pattern when there isn´t. If I toss a coin and it lands heads 10 times in a row some people think "it can´t happen one more time" while other think "it has happened 10 times i a row, it must happen again". It seems to be very hard to find out if the patterns I find is something I can use or if it´s just random.
And also, you´re competing agains everyone at the same time, the markets sets the price. In poker you need to be better than your opponent, in trading you have to beat evreryone.
January 1, 2012 - 23:29#48
How were you able to start this type of business? I love playing poker and will definitely enjoy life more if I have this type of business.
March 15, 2012 - 14:53#49
I've come across the 80/20 rule recently, where by for almost everything you do 80 % of the results comes from 20% of the work, can this be applied to poker? out of everything you did to improve your poker game, which activities would you say were your 20% that brought about 80% of your improvement?
March 19, 2012 - 21:02#50
Best $30 coach?
I currently play the $15 4man shootouts and the $30 1v1 and 4mans on stars(all reg speeds) and was wondering, who'd be the best coach to get for those levels to help move up? I've watched the PrimordialAA and oasis00 vids on CR and found them so helpful and made a lot of money but was just wondering who'd be the best personal coach to get?