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Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter BTN/SB: t1510 30.20 BBs Hero (BB): t1490 29.80 BBs Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BB with T K BTN/SB raises to t100, Hero calls t50 Flop: (t200) J 2 Q (2 players) Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t100, Hero calls t100 Turn: (t400) 7 (2 players) Hero checks, BTN/SB checks River: (t400) 5 (2 players) Hero bets t250,  Villain is a reg at 100s.I c/c flop because I don't expect villain to barrel with air on any turn card lower than J. Also K high is very often the best hand. Would you prefer a c/r? What do you think about turning K high into the bluff on the river? I bet because I think I can fold out any pair lower than Jx.  My c/c flop range is mostly Qx, Jx, Ax. There's no FD. He probably thinks that I'm checking high cards and weak pairs. There's very little air in my range. I would play the same way with Qx, Jx. 

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KT hand:  against most

KT hand: against most players, i believe that donkbetting is your best option here...typically bet/3betting about any raise size (unless you donk 100 and he minraises or something very small). c/c isn't great bc: you get barreled off somewhat easily, when you hit turns it's going to get checked back a ton, plus i really dont think K high gets to showdown very often as the best hand vs most players (even if you do have the best hand on the flop more often than not). donkbetting>>>>c/r though bc villains range when facing a c/r we will be 45%ish at best against. villains will continue vs a c/r at these stacks with a range that is going to be really hard for KT to exploit. vs a donk though, villain will continue with a much wider range typically (and usually KT will fare better vs a bet/3bet get-it-in range as well compared to a c/r stackoff range). so ya, consider donkbetting as an option more! it solves a lot of your problems here. don't be so tempted to just auto-pilot check the flop oop just bc you see most other regs do that. donkbetting is a great option and something that almost all husng players are missing in their games.As played, on the river I think you have 2 options:fake valuebet (250 into 400 like you did): this is going to work best vs players who can handread. your betsizes reps a wider value, JX+. slight overbet (450 into 400): this is going to work better vs poor handreaders who think strictly in terms of relative hand strength (i.e. "wow, that's a big bet. well, i only have 4th pair. he must have top pair. i fold"). this is typically going to be most "fish", but don't give regs too much credit for their handreading abilities (many are terrible). 

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Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter Hero (BTN/SB): t1480 37 BBs BB: t1520 38 BBs Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BTN/SB with T 7 Hero raises to t80, BB calls t40 Flop: (t160) 5 7 K (2 players) BB bets t80, Hero calls t80 Turn: (t320) 5 (2 players) BB checks, Hero bets t160, BB raises to t480, Hero folds Final Pot: t640 BB wins t640 Villain is a losing player. He c/f to cbets 80%, c/c BP on wet flop. This is his 3rd donk bet - I folded both times before.So if I assume he c/folds air and c/calls weak pairs then when he donks he might have Kx+ or draws. Ofc this is just an assumption, he might be doing it randomly. But agaist that range I think I can bet turn because I not only get value from draws, but also I'm very often get a check from him on the river and I can get to showdown. What do you think? When he c/r turn I think that confirms what I thought about his donking range - Kx+. So my adjustments should be cbet whenever he checks, raise his donk bets with strong value, barrel more often when he c/calls, don't bluff when he donks. 

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Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter BTN/SB: t1415 35.38 BBs Hero (BB): t1585 39.62 BBs Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BB with Q J BTN/SB raises to t80, Hero raises to t200, BTN/SB calls t120 Flop: (t400) 5 Q K (2 players) Hero bets t200, BTN/SB raises to t450, Hero folds Final Pot: t800 BTN/SB wins t800 Villain is good reg at 200s, he's not afraid to play anyone, always accepts rematches. He's aggressive, opens 90%+ OTB, 3bets 30%+. Against him I tightened up my opening range so that I have more hands that could continue against his 3bets either by calling or by 4bet shoving. Since he calls 3bets I'm 3betting KT+, QJ+, AJ+, 99+  and some lower suited cards. Also I defending kind of wide OOP. I think basic adjustmens are ok. Last hand I 3bet 80-200 with AJ and c/f to half pot bet on 98Qss. Then this hand with QJ. Do  you think I could've done anything differenly? C/c flop or bet / get it in given how many draws there are on this flop. How do I get an adge against this kind of player? He's not the one that I could run over, he reacts to aggression by being even more aggressive. It's extremely hard to be in control of the match when he doesn't stop. When I started 3betting more he didn't tighten up preflop, he just started calling wider. So I feel like I'm bleeding chips when I play tighter OTB to counter his 3bets while he keeps raising non stop and calling 3bets. How do I exploit this type of a player? I don't feel like I have edge. I mean, I don't feel like I'm making any major mistakes but I'm not doing anything to exploit him and put him in tough spots. 

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Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter Hero (BB): t1220 40.67 BBs BTN/SB: t1780 59.33 BBs Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with 8 A BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t30 Flop: (t120) 3 K 5 (2 players) Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t60, Hero raises to t150, BTN/SB calls t90 Turn: (t420) 3 (2 players) Hero checks, BTN/SB checks River: (t420) K (2 players) Hero bets t30, BTN/SB raises to t300, Hero folds Final Pot: t480 BTN/SB wins t480 Villain is a reg at 100s.I c/r flop because I think A8 is the best hand a lot, but if I call he might barrel me off my hand. It's a dry flop and I'm not representing much but I think he folds enough. He might float with worse Ax. 

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Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter BTN/SB: t1530 76.50 BBs Hero (BB): t1470 73.50 BBs Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with A J BTN/SB raises to t40, Hero raises to t140, BTN/SB raises to t340, 1 fold Final Pot: t280 BTN/SB wins t280 3rd hand, my 1st 3bet, villain is reg. Never played him before.I think his range is very strong here. QQ+, AK. I think it's best just to fold readless. Do you agree? 

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Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter BB: t1700 85 BBs Hero (BTN/SB): t1300 65 BBs Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with J Q Hero raises to t40, BB raises to t120, Hero calls t80 Flop: (t240) 9 4 K (2 players) BB bets t124, Hero calls t124 Turn: (t488) 2 (2 players) - effective stack 1056 BB checks,Villain is a reg. Still early in the match. It's his 2nd 3bet, I folded 1st time. Is float on this flop ok with backdoor FD, gutshot, 2 overs to floped MP? What should I do on this turn? Check back and take free card with FD + gutshot or bet trying to fold out pairs lower than K and A high? If he c/shoves turn I think I'm committed to call. 

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Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No

Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter Hero (BTN/SB): t1110 27.75 BBs BB: t1890 47.25 BBs Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BTN/SB with 9 7 Hero raises to t80, BB calls t40 Flop: (t160) 4 8 4 (2 players) BB checks, Hero bets t80, BB calls t80 Turn: (t320) 5 (2 players) - effective stack is 950  BB checks, Hero bets t160, BB calls t160 River: (t640) 5 (2 players) - effective stack is 790  BB checks, Villain is a reg. Do you think I shoul've bet more on turn and call if he shoves? I don't think I can fire 3rd barrel on this river. 

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Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter Hero (BTN/SB): t1415 28.30 BBs BB: t1585 31.70 BBs Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BTN/SB with T T Hero raises to t100, BB calls t50 Flop: (t200) J 2 9 (2 players) BB checks, Hero bets t100, BB calls t100 Turn: (t400) 5 (2 players) BB checks, Hero bets t200, BB raises to t600, Hero folds Final Pot: t800 BB wins t800 Villain isn't good. He's very loose preflop, he c/c with gutshots before. I barreled turn not so long ago and he folded on wet board. This is 2nd time I'm barreling. I bet half pot to encourage calls from 9x, FD, SD. He c/mr my cbet only once. Fold is good, right? He has J5, 95 in range. I don't think he would c/r turn as semi bluff with turned draws given how passive he's been. 

hokiegreg's picture
AJ hand: if it's your first

AJ hand:if it's your first game readless, how can you assign him to such a nitty range esp when hes a thinking player??? thinking players are going to be more capable of 4bet bluffs. i almost always jam vs a thinking player readless here.

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"if it's your first game

"if it's your first game readless, how can you assign him to such a nitty range esp when hes a thinking player"I just extremely rarely see non-allin 4bets. And it was just 3rd hand so I was not expecting him to start making plays like this readless. We've never played before so he doesn't know anything about my 3betting range and frequency. I would've jammed if he had done this before and if I knew he was capable of doing it with worse hands. You obviously think that this is a major mistake even realdess. If you get 3bet 1st hand do you jam AJo also? Is it really standart to get it in AJo 75bb deep 1st hand? My range always was AQ+.  

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versus a thinking player i'll

versus a thinking player i'll expand to AJ+ until i realize that they aren't capable of 4bet bluffing almost ever...i think most thinking players have gotten the memo that you can get away with a 4bet bluff early sometimes (especially on one of your first 3bets).

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Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No

Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter Hero (BTN/SB): t1340 67 BBs BB: t1660 83 BBs Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with 3 3 Hero raises to t40, BB calls t20 Flop: (t80) 9 4 J (2 players) BB checks, Hero bets t40, BB calls t40 Turn: (t160) 3 (2 players) BB checks, Hero bets t100, BB calls t100 River: (t360) T (2 players) BB bets t200, Villain is a losing player. Raise for value from 2pair hands and call a shove? If he has straight it's just a cooler?  Only KQ, 78, Q8 got straights and they aren't very likely. 

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Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter Hero (BB): t1640 82 BBs BTN/SB: t1360 68 BBs Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 9 A BTN/SB raises to t40, Hero calls t20 Flop: (t80) 2 3 T (2 players) Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t40, Hero raises to t120, BTN/SB raises to t220, Hero calls t100 Turn: (t520) J (2 players) Hero bets t260,  Villain is a winning player at lower stakes, but is losing at 100s. He's not bad, aggressive, capable of playing back. Previously he bet/called 3 streets with flopped set in 3bet pot. He perceives me as very aggressive player. I think it's good flop to c/r with backdoor FD, over to TP, 2 overs to MP. His small 3bet seemed like bluff to me. I don't think he's doing it with 2x, 3x, Tx, FD. I think strong value hands would raise bigger for value or just call. So if I think my A high is good and I have backdoor draws what should I do on the flop? If I raise I'm not really getting value out of anything. So I called. It's just a 100 chips. I donked turn because I can represent flush very well given my line on flop. But if I think I'm ahead maybe I should've checked, let him bet and shoved. I just wasn't sure if he would bluff on turn again. I think donk on turn would be good if I had no showdown value because I could fold out a lot of better hands (high cards). Now I kind of turned my showdown value into the bluff. It's almost the same as If I had jammed over his flop 3bet. I think it was a mistake and I should've c/jammed turn. Do you agree? 

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Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No

Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter Hero (BTN/SB): t1447 48.23 BBs BB: t1553 51.77 BBs Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with 4 5 Hero raises to t60, BB raises to t165, Hero calls t105 Flop: (t330) 3 J 7 (2 players) BB bets t111, Hero raises to t240, BB calls t129 Turn: (t810) K (2 players) BB checks, Villain is winning at lower stakes. His 3rd 3bet. Do you like my flop raise with gutshot and backdoor FD? I'm risking 240 to win 441. My goal was to fold out AK, AQ, KQ and a lot of air hands. When he calls - check turn and give up? 

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33 hand:  I click back the

33 hand: I click back the river and fold to a jam. You will need to be good about 30% of the time to call a jam after a minraise to 400. Hardly anyone, losing players included, is jamming over you with worse than a straight in that spot. Just so, so rare. I comfortably fold. Def think there is a ton of value in a small raise though.

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A9: I think given your reads,

A9:I think given your reads, your c/r is going to get played back at too often and you are going to be lost a ton of the time...so I prefer flatting. I like a c/r more if you think you get barreled a decent amount when you call, but when you c/r villain is a little closer to fit or fold. The risk/reward on 4betting/jamming flop is pretty awful, since villain can definitely have a lot of value combos in his range here (TX, over+diamonds, JJ-AA, sets...all make sense). As played, I think a call is good as I expect his value to continue pretty transparently on a lot of turns and I do expect bluffs to shut down pretty frequently from most villains. Your perceived range when you flat is basically TX type hands and flush draws.On the Jd turn, I think leading turn is an ok line but I think you still run into overpairs/sets/flushes a lot...tho you prob get him off TX some. I would lead a little smaller (200ish) to setup stacks a little better for a river jam (so he calls with a wider range, which will find more river folds).Not a bad line, kind of a wierd hand. Spots like this are why I think c/c the flop given this type villains tendancy to play back vs a c/r on such a transparent c/r-bluff board. You just get played back at a lot, and when you do his range contains so much value that I'm not sure you can exploit that range even tho it does contain some bluffs.Hope that makes sense.

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45 hand: Meh, I fold preflop.

45 hand:Meh, I fold preflop. My calling range would be down to T8o 87s+ type stuff. I don't think people cbet these type boards as wide as you would think, and even when you do get his AK/AQ/KQ type stuff to fold (I expect a lot of players to float such a small raise) he is just going to have a lot of hand combos that connect to this board enough to continue flatting or 3betting. You have to consider his full range, not just optimistically think about the part of the range you can get to fold. You have decent equity, flat and reevaluate turn. If he checks some turns maybe you can barrel off...I think that's going to be a better line a lot of the time on this type board anyways.

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posts #114 and #117: A9

posts #114 and #117: A9 handIf I c/c flop and villain barrels turn whould you c/c or c/r and get it in? This line looks strong and I think villain might fold Tx, Jx. I think the problem with c/c turn is that I'm never getting value on the river when I hit flush. Another question about similar situation. What do you think about this line: c/c K7 on 568ss, c/r A. Villain likes to barrel. Would you make this play given this read? It's not fun when villain actually has Ax but I think it's ok because I expect his barreling range to be much wider. 

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Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No

Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter Hero (BB): t860 43 BBs PanamaRespec (BTN/SB): t2140 107 BBs Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with K A PanamaRespec raises to t40, Hero raises to t120, PanamaRespec calls t80 Flop: (t240) 5 Q J (2 players) Hero checks, PanamaRespec checks Turn: (t240) J (2 players) Hero checks, PanamaRespec bets t140, Hero calls t140 River: (t520) 2 (2 players) Hero checks, PanamaRespec bets t1880 all in, Never played him before. He opened 100% OTB, folded to my opens, called my 1st 3bet with A5 75bb deep. This is my 2nd 3bet. I checked flop because this flop should hit his defending range although he called with A5 last time, so his range is wider. Also I have A high, gutshot, 2 overs and don't want to get raised off my hand. I would've c/c flop had he bet. But he snap checked back. I thought he had auto fold on. Would you call turn and river? My perceived range is weak. I'm representing Ax or 88-TT. 

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AK hand: Cbet flop and get it

AK hand:Cbet flop and get it in. You have reasonable equity vs his range (after you bet, you def are getting right price to bet/call). You are giving free equity w a check, he has air n his range, and you get bluffed too easily.

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Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No

Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter BTN/SB: t1120 28 BBs Hero (BB): t1880 47 BBs Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BB with J 2 BTN/SB raises to t80, Hero raises to t200, BTN/SB calls t120 Flop: (t400) T 4 4 (2 players) Hero bets t200, BTN/SB calls t200 Turn: (t800) 2 (2 players) Hero  Villain is a reg at 100-200s. He's tight aggressive. Opens a lot OTB, folds to 3bets decent amount. This is not my 1st 3bet, What would you do on turn? He could have Tx with over (JT QT KT) but I think most of the time he will be raising it on the flop. Pocket pairs (except maybe KK-AA) and a lot of Ax are jamming preflop over my 3bet. I can see him having overcards like QJ KJ KQ. I think if he had air and decided to play back he would be raising flop instead of floating at these stack sizes. On turn I beat all his unpaired broadways but I doubt he will turn them into the bluff and bet turn if I check to him. I don't want to give him free card. But at the same time I don't think there's a lot of value in betting because I don't expect him to call with broadways (unless ofc he had backdoor FD with spades on the flop). So I was thinking about betting something small that could induce. It looks weak, I wouldn't do it with Tx - I'd bet it for value especially when there's FD on board. I would bet 4x. So small bet doesn't rep anything apart from super strong hand like fullhouse. I think he might attack weakness by jamming and my plan is to call.Does my logic make sense? Do you agree with my reasoning and decision? 

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You only have 720 back. I

You only have 720 back. I think he has Tx a huge percentage of the time here, and quite rarely a float (occasionally Ax that just thinks it's good). I would check/fold. Your hand is still basically AK, and hands he called with on the flop usually don't bet turn when checked to if they're worse than you.People just don't have the balls to call off so much of their stack here with air.

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Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter BTN/SB: t1820 45.50 BBs Hero (BB): t1180 29.50 BBs Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BB with A J BTN/SB calls t20, Hero raises to t120, BTN/SB calls t80 Flop: (t240) Q 7 J (2 players) Hero bets t120, BTN/SB calls t120 Turn: (t480) 2 (2 players)  Hero bets t320, BTN/SB calls t320 River: (t1120) 9 (2 players) Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t1260 all in, Hero calls t620 all in Final Pot: t2360 BTN/SB shows Q 7 (two pair, Queens and Sevens) Hero shows A J (a pair of Jacks) BTN/SB wins t2360 Villain is a breakeven player. It's a 2nd time I raised his limp - last time he folded to cbet on dry paired flop. I thought villain would raise TP+ on the flop. So his flatting range becomes Jx, 7x, draws. Therefore I decided to bet for value with the intention of calling a shove - that's reason I bet big - to force draws to jam over the top. On the river I checked to let villain bluff with his busted draws. But I really hated to be in that spot. Do you think betting turn is a mistake? I often get into this spot: I raise villain's limp, bet flop with MPGK, get turn undercard and then wonder whether I should bet again or check. When I check I "tell" villain that I'm weak and he can bet turn/river and put in me in tough spot. How would you play this hand?

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Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter Hero (BTN/SB): t1640 41 BBs BB: t1360 34 BBs Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BTN/SB with 8 A Hero raises to t80, BB calls t40 Flop: (t160) 5 5 6 (2 players) BB checks, Hero bets t80, BB calls t80 Turn: (t320) A (2 players) BB checks, Hero bets t160, BB raises to t320, Hero calls t160 River: (t960) 4 (2 players) BB bets t880 all in,Villain is the same from AJ hand where he called flop/turn with floped 2pair on wet board. So given that I expect him to c/c turn with 5x and not c/r. I really doubt he would c/r Ax. He's representing 5x or air. I should call turn and call river? I need be good 32% of the time. 

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AJ hand: It's close, but on

AJ hand:It's close, but on flop I think your plan given your reads needs to be bet/folding. I can't imagine you are doing well enough to stack off vs a range consistenting of mostly top pair + draws w pretty good equity. I would also assume his flatting range on flop to be <QX, so I love barreling this turn (gets value from worse hands, protects equity). Turn seems fine, if anything just a little smaller..think it might induce more (doubt many regs think your turn sizing is a pure bluff).Given that pot is about 1100 and stacks are about 600, I prefer a river jam. A lot of his range is going to have some kind of sd value which will check back a lot (KJ,JX,T9,spades or diamonds + a pair...tho i think those might just jam turn). A lot of people will find a justification to hero a river jam with all the missed draws on this board, especially given the pot:stack ratio. Def think a jam is better.

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Respect the shit out of

Respect the shit out of people when they check/minraise your double barrels, until proven otherwise. The average player is just so-so-so nitty in this spot, it's ridiculous. Just pay attention to frequencies, people wont pick up hands strong enough to take this line very often..so if you see any reasonable frequency of it then I would stop nitting it up. Also, I just don't think this is a turn card many people attempt a c/r bluff on. It actually wouldn't be that bad of a line, since we should be barreling this type card with a ton of our air...I just dont think many players take advantage of that at all.

hokiegreg's picture
Also, if you do call turn,

Also, if you do call turn, river is such an easy fold. You are just not good here 32% of the time imo. Your perceived range is basically AX+ and 78/74. I don't think many thinking players are going to try to fold you off that kind of perceived range.

adastfe's picture
I'm definitely bet / folding

I'm definitely bet / folding AJ on that flop. I folded river with A8 and he showed me T6. Maybe I'm just being results oriented. At that moment it felt like a big mistake because he slowplayed 2pair before on wet board. So I really didn't think he would raise 5x. I had information from previous hand and didn't use it. 

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Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t30/t60 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter Hero (BB): t1130 18.83 BBs BTN/SB: t1870 31.17 BBs Pre Flop: (t90) Hero is BB with J Q BTN/SB calls t30, Hero raises to t120, BTN/SB calls t60 Flop: (t240) 6 K T (2 players) Hero bets t160, BTN/SB raises to t420, Hero raises to t1010 all in, BTN/SB calls t590 Villain is a losing player. He raised strong hands and limped weak. He shoved over my cbet with open ended w/o overs in 3bet pot. Raised preflop for value because he called a lot with weak hands and folded to cbets >50%. But maybe I should've just checked and saw cheap flop? We were just 19bb deep. I can't fold flop given the pot size and my equity? 

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I like slightly bigger pre,

I like slightly bigger pre, t150, mainly bc I think most villain's will call almost the same range as t120 in position. QJ/KJ/JT/T9s are all going to do great vs a wide limp calling range, bc he will be l/c soo many dominated hands. The more invested he is to the pot, the wider he will stack off post as well. I don't want to go much bigger though, as I think you start folding out a lot of the hands you dominate at that point. Post, I just cbet half-pot. It induces raises less (which I don't think you are doing great against), gets called wider (you do better against), and I think he folds basically the same range to t120 and t160 really. As played, assuming you have no fold equity and stacks are always getting inw hen he raises (you don't imo), you  need 37% equity. Considering the flush draw combos, TX spaz-raising at short effective stacks, weaker straight draws going nuts etc...I def think you have to get in. If you cbet t120 and get raised, I think it's closer to a fold. Mainly bc I think the average players range is induced a bit less. 

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Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No

Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter Hero (BB): t1050 35 BBs BTN/SB: t1950 65 BBs Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with J 8 BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t30 Flop: (t120) T 8 3 (2 players) Hero checks, BTN/SB checks Turn: (t120) Q (2 players) Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t77, Hero calls t77 River: (t274) T (2 players) Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t122, Hero raises to t913 all in, Villain is a slightly losing player.  What do you think about turning 8x into the bluff trying to get him off Qx? His range is mostly Qx and very rarely J9 but I think he would cbet flop with it the vast majority of the time. I don't think he has air because he would've bluffed flop, not turn. And he can't have Tx. I credibly rep Tx but maybe it's too narrow of a value range? I would lead turn with J9. But at the same time I don't have much air either because I would lead turn with all my air, draws.I was considering min donking river to block him because I don't expect him to raise with Qx or air. So I'm preventing him from barreling me off my hand with air. But that's the thing - I don't think he has air. So block bet has no value. That's why I chose c/shoving.Knowing that he still called with Qx I think it's a bad play vs him, but what do you think about this line in general? Is it good in vacuum? Would you fold Qx If a thinking player c/shoved river? 

hokiegreg's picture
I would lead the turn to

I would lead the turn to protect your equity and to get value from draws.I hate trying to make fish make folds with top pair+ when I don't know if they are capable. I think you rep well here, but the important thing is how does your opponent think about poker? Does he even pay attention to what you are repping? I would probably call river (u dont need to be right that much)...i can see an argument for folding tho its close. I just think you need more information vs fish to make this kind of play. Versus a reg, I think you can make far more generalizations about their thought process and shove here.

adastfe's picture
Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No

Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter BTN/SB: t1540 77 BBs Hero (BB): t1460 73 BBs Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with K K BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero raises to t180, BTN/SB calls t120 Flop: (t360) 4 2 T (2 players) Hero bets t200, BTN/SB calls t200 Turn: (t760) Q (2 players) Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t320, Hero raises to t1080 all in, BTN/SB folds Final Pot: t1400 Hero mucks K K Hero wins t1400 Villain is a losing player. He was raising 50%, limping 30%. I don't know if he has floats in range. But what hands call on this flop? Most people would raise flop with Tx and FD. What's left is overcards, A high and complete air some % of the time that decided to play back by floating instead of raising. I don't think he is that strong. Thefore If I bet I'm expecting him to fold all his air. But if I check he might bluff with air or turn A high into the bluff. I don't think I'm losing value from Tx because I think he wuold bet for value/protection. He would probably take free card with FD if he decied to call flop instead of raising. So I'm losing value from that hand. So it all comes down to his range: does he have more FD combinations or air / overcard combinations. I shoved over his turn bet because I didn't expect him to fire again on the river with air because pot would be 1400 and I would have 760 left. If he has draw I one to get it in on the turn. Also, if he has Qx he might not value bet it on some rivers. So shove is for value from draws and worse pairs. Would you check the turn readless? As played would you c/c or c/shove? If he checked back the turn and river was spade then I would have to check, right? After this hand I should take note that "villain is capable of floating on dry flops in 3bet pots and bets with air If I check turn to him"? 

hokiegreg's picture
i expect a floating range to

i expect a floating range to be AX/KQ/KJ/QJ type stuff. Q hits that range pretty hard - and I expect most villains to check back their AX/spade draws to get a free river. I don't expect to see a lot of pure floats on board like this really.Just barrel the turn to make sure you get value out of his full range. people are stations and make mistakes - let them make them. bet, bet, bet. I would barrel turn pretty small 320ish to give him opportunity to call w a really wide range and hopefully be a station on rivers. 

hokiegreg's picture
just checking in - have you

just checking in - have you been working on improving focus/length of sessions? how's that going?

adastfe's picture
So if Q hits his calling

So if Q hits his calling range does it mean that barreling turn with 69dd would be a mistake? What would you do with AK?Let's say turn was 8d. Would you barrel 69? Would you barrel AK? 

adastfe's picture
I spent a lot of time working

I spent a lot of time working on increasing the length of my sessions. I'm used to 75 min sessions by now. I'll try to add additional 15min. Ofc I'm not playing in sessions every single time. Sometimes when I feel tired I sit down just for a couple of games. Step by step approach works great. Very happy with the results so far. Ofc it's easier for me because I'm playing just one table and therefore get some rest in between the games (waiting for a table / villain). 

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Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No

Poker Stars $96.32+$3.68 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter BTN/SB: t1700 56.67 BBs Hero (BB): t1300 43.33 BBs Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with J Q BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero raises to t160, BTN/SB calls t100 Flop: (t320) K T 3 (2 players) Hero bets t160, BTN/SB calls t160 Turn: (t640) K (2 players) - effective stack 980Villain is a losing player. My 1st 3bet. If I cbet and get raised I have to get it in on the flop? Should I be happy with this outcome given the number of draws?What do you think about check/shoving flop?Let's say I have FD w/o overs on this flop. The same questions:If I get raised I have to get itin? What do you think about check / shove? I think villain's betting range when I check to him on the flop is wider than his raising range. As played I have to check the turn?

hokiegreg's picture
So if Q hits his calling

So if Q hits his calling range does it mean that barreling turn with 69dd would be a mistake? What would you do with AK?Let's say turn was 8d. Would you barrel 69? Would you barrel AK?It hits PART of his range, our barrel with 69dd doesn't have to work 100% of the time for it to be +ev so I am still continuing. Would barrel AK as well, as it doesn't check/call well at all...turn fold equity/river implied odds.8 turn is a good barrel card too. Would barrel with both hands.I think we have pretty decent fold equity on most non-spade turns. Just remember that you are never folding out his whole range and your barrel never needs to work 100% of the time. 

hokiegreg's picture
QJ hand: Cbetting smaller

QJ hand:Cbetting smaller makes everything a lot easier for you. Villains range will play very fit or foldo n a board like this. I would just cbet 125ish. If villain raises/jams flop I seriously doubt you have enough equity vs his range to stack off this deep. I would play a naked flush draw the same way, bet/folding flops. Most villains are not raising this wet of a board (esp one that hits our perceived range) wide at all.I don't like a turn check/shove, as I think a lot of draws will check back or just jam so a betting range will be a lot more weighted to KX/TX. I just continue pretty small 180-200ish and expect most villains to be relatively passive against it...allows us to realize our river equity a good % of the time. 

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No Limit Hold'em Tournament -

No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 2 players DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter janekaaa (BTN/SB): t1540 30.80 BBs Hero (BB): t1460 29.20 BBs Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BB with Q 9 janekaaa raises to t100, Hero calls t50 Flop: (t200) 2 9 3 (2 players) Hero checks, janekaaa bets t150, Hero calls t150 Turn: (t500) J (2 players) Hero checks, janekaaa bets t300 Hand is vs very good player - Janekaaa. I think you should know him. He's aggressive. I c/c flop because he was barreling a lot. And given board texture on the flop there will be a lot of good turn cards for him to barrel. I could c/r flop but I think he won't have a lot of worse hands that he can continue with, it's fairly dry board. And if he has air it's extremely likely that he'll put another bet on vast majority of turns. So my plan is to c/c flop and c/r most turns (even overcards). Do you like this line given information that I know  about him? When I c/r J turn I'm not really representing much. I can't have J2, J3. The only value hand that makes sense is J9 or semi bluffs with turned draws. So I think he might get it in lighter. If he's barreling with draws I want to get it in vs them on the turn. It's a value raise. At that time I was thinking that maybe I'm overplaying my hand a bit. What do you think?I think c/c turn is completely out of the question. Pot would be 1100 and I would have 910 left behind. And there are a lot of cards that could come that I don't want to see on the river. Although he's very likely to fire 3rd barrel with air If I c/c turn. How's my thought process? Do you agree with my decision or would you played it differently?

hokiegreg's picture
i think there could be some

i think there could be some more value in a c/r considering it's a board he also won't perceive you to have a lot of value hands on. so he might play back a lot vs a c/r with his ace highs and other similar stuff.i think a flat can be ok, but if i flat it's definitely to just call off on really any turn and river. you are flatting because he barrels a lot, so this is the perfect turn card for him to continue bluffs on, and if your reads are correct i expect him to continue on rivers a lot as well. i don't think stacks are short enough that you need to check/shove turn - i would just do that if i expect him to never bluff rivers...i dont tihnk that is the case here.don't mind your line at all. just call and c/c rivers.

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