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skobotinc1's picture
1st Hand $115 Turbo HU AKs in the BB

No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$110+$5
Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter

SBNotTheRealJC1500 
BBHero1500 

Effective Stacks: 75bb
Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players)
Hero is BB


NotTheRealJC raises to 40, Hero raises to 120, NotTheRealJC calls 80

Flop (240, 2 players)


Hero bets 120, NotTheRealJC calls 120

Turn (480, 2 players)



Hero bets 240, NotTheRealJC calls 240

River (960, 2 players)



Hero bets 633, NotTheRealJC goes all-in 1020, Hero goes all-in 387

skobotinc1's picture
Curious what you guys think

Curious what you guys think of my line here. It's first hand of the tourney, and all I know leading up to this hand is that this guy is a losing random, and that a lot of losing players often spew on the first hand of a game.Thanks,J

hotrock's picture
bet fold 480 on the river, or

bet fold 480 on the river, or else check call a reasonable bet as lots a silly draws missed go with your gut

thepuminator's picture
I only see 1 draw that

I only see 1 draw that missed, and betting 1/2 your stack and folding to shove is not good.

hotrock's picture
why dont you give your own

why dont you give your own 2cents then?i see 910 then plenty gutshots that picked up diamonds on the turn on top of floats that picked up diamond draw aswel.and why is it so bad to fold after betting just under half your stack you still have 540 to play with anything he raises has you beat unless he is a complete maniac. but theres tons worst he can call with.dont think bet call is bad either theres merit for all 3 lines i reckon

ACES15FULL's picture
with such a drawy board I

with such a drawy board I would expect a raise from TPTK. I really don't see how you can fold once you've committed that much to the pot with that strong of a hand.

supersize's picture
guess a check/call line on

guess a check/call line on the river would be best option. easier to give honest feedback without the results but obviously we are going to think we are good here the majority of the time. doubt most unknowns are going to call that river bet with less very often... give him a chance to bluff, imo.

Newff's picture
Bet/Call river...folding to

Bet/Call river...folding to his shove would be bad and we have to bet river.

breakroomgrinder's picture
You should set up stacks for

You should set up stacks for a river shove (bet the turn a lil bigger) then jam most rivers.

skobotinc1's picture
Too bad I posted results, but

Too bad I posted results, but I'm new to the forums and the HH converter. @breakroomgrinder, I like the set-up for the river jam. Maybe if I bet the turn harder, it induces a shove from stronger hands, too, so I know where I stand better, and can fold to an overshove there. The flat on the turn made me nervous, for sure. I don't like checking and losing impetus out of position on the turn or river. Any input from staff? Thanks :)-J

skobotinc1's picture
Ok, results removed. Honest

Ok, results removed. Honest appraisals, fire away.

ChrisBroholm's picture
I like 3betting slightly

I like 3betting slightly bigger pre, like 140-150 I also bet slightly over half pot on the flop and turn, which should then set the river up for a jam. I feel like we definitely get called by worse so I really can't see you played it really bad. Once he jams over your river bet its pretty ugly, but I guess he turns up with a flush a lot.

RyPac13's picture
Bet a little larger on the

Bet a little larger on the flop, bet a little larger on the turn, shove the river for value.3betting a little larger preflop by default with AK vs a minraise is probably ideal too, 140-160 is perfectly fine and the added value there should outweigh the slight chance that he folds a larger % of his range to the larger 3bet (most losing opponents will call a similar or exactly the same range thus giving your much stronger hand a lot more value from their weaker calling range).But the first line comments I believe are the most valuable, particularly the flop and turn bets (the river kind of solves itself once you get there with my flop and turn bets).

coolcoolcool's picture
Is there any situation where

Is there any situation where you should pass up a somewhat thin opportunity like this (not necessarily this one) if you have a big advantage over your opponent? If so, how big of a perceived edge would you need to fold/would there be a situation that arises where you should consider giving up the pot because you know you can stack him soon?

mrbambocha's picture
def bet bigger pre/flop/turn

def bet bigger pre/flop/turn (because so hands picked up equity on the turn.) But for the river i have some questions. Yes we could/(should) it, but what are we aiming to get value from? Wouldnt the jack raise us on flop? What about giving him the chance to bluff the river? How would we play a river diamond, cf?

leavemealoneplz's picture
I would check call the river,

I would check call the river, general expierence with unknown losers is their more likely to make bad bluffs then bad calls in these spots, also unknown losers will be worse at value betting i've seen twopair+ checked behind in this spot quite often.

nariman44's picture
You did the Best play

I dont see any mistake in your play, you played completely right, you 3 bet 120 in the very first hand, Cbet to half the pot is good since if he calls and you don't hit the ace you can shut down since it is the fisrt hand and you can play back later. but now on the trun you have the ace so you Can't and Shouldn't fold that hand. if he has the flush, he has it and that is just bad luck.