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The fish value line ... And

The fish value line ...And I'm always asking myself what the hell does he have here ?What's the plan ott, bet/fold or pay him off ?No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$57.67+$2.33 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBjandemanxo1620  BBHero1380  Effective Stacks: 69bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB jandemanxo raises to 40, Hero raises to 120, jandemanxo calls 80   Flop (240, 2 players) Hero bets 120, jandemanxo calls 120   Turn (480, 2 players) Hero bets 240, jandemanxo goes all-in 1380, Hero goes all-in 900   River (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in)   Final Pot: 3000 


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When fish make weird

When fish make weird overbet-jams like this ...Would we call here with KT ?No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$57.67+$2.33 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBvenom441235  SBHero1765  Effective Stacks: 41bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, venom44 raises to 90, Hero calls 30   Flop (180, 2 players) venom44 bets 120, Hero calls 120   Turn (420, 2 players) venom44 goes all-in 1025, Hero folds   Final Pot: 1445 


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If he actually overplays hands ....

So I thought ok, maybe the guy is in fact overplaying hands.But this one is different, I'm never ever good here, ever ? Maybe ?  In hindsight, I think I should have flatted his river raise. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$57.67+$2.33 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBvenom441445  BBHero1555  Effective Stacks: 48bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB venom44 calls 15, Hero checks   Flop (60, 2 players) Hero checks, venom44 checks   Turn (60, 2 players) Hero checks, venom44 checks   River (60, 2 players) Hero bets 60, venom44 raises to 180, Hero raises to 390, venom44 goes all-in 1415, Hero calls 1025   Final Pot: 2890 


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This guy was really aggro and

This guy was really aggro and spazzy.  First match, he gii with tp+sd against my flopped straight.  Then he fired 3 streets with air on a J-high ragged board, where it was quite obvious that I wasn't going anywhere with my hand.Then, he started to play back aggressively against my 3bets.Flat his small 4bet here ?No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$57.67+$2.33 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBamontobin991650  BBHero1350  Effective Stacks: 68bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB amontobin99 raises to 40, Hero raises to 120, amontobin99 raises to 320, Hero calls 200   Flop (640, 2 players) Hero checks, amontobin99 goes all-in 1330, Hero folds   Final Pot: 1970   


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Since he also flatted a ton

Since he also flatted a ton of my 3bets, I decided to do it here for value.After he 4bet-jammed here, my thinking was that he's probably weaker here since he already made a smaller 4bet before.Or should I better flat this hand pf ?  It really sucks that he's coming over the top here.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$57.67+$2.33 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBamontobin991645  BBHero1355  Effective Stacks: 27bb Blinds 25/50 Pre-Flop (75, 2 players) Hero is BB amontobin99 raises to 100, Hero raises to 225, amontobin99 goes all-in 1645, Hero goes all-in 1130   Flop (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in)   Turn (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in)   River (3000, 2 players, 2 all-in)   Final Pot: 3000 


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Running very good so far

Running very good so far :-)I'm at ~$4600 again, so I'll give it at shot at $100 again tonight.Family time ...


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Calling with ATo+ A9s+ KQs

Calling with ATo+ A9s+ KQs 55+ on the AT hand.Definitely a weird hand where you have the AQ, but I think you have to bet/call the turn, he can have worse Ax that just decides it's good.Nothing you should do different with T6, A8 is probably the bottom of my calling range.I would flat the river raise with the K3.Preflop decision with the AQ depends on what you mean by "really aggro and spazzy". If he's been aggro preflop and we already have a 4bet dynamic, I just ship it in pre without a second thought. If not, and you just mean aggro and spazzy postflop, then it's close...but I still prefer jamming or folding to flatting, I think. Basically if we think his range is wide then jamming is good and if we don't then it doesn't really matter how spazzy he is because he only has premiums.I'd 3bet bigger with the KJ, t280 or even t300 is good, you'll still get all the calls with lots of dominated Kx/Jx hands. As played, I think I would fold once you make it this small.Great to hear you're running well :)

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BOTTOM PAIR ISS DA NUTZZZ !!!

Really tough session today, went down some $800, already wanted to call it a day and whine about how bad things are - then I ran into this guy.And this ended with abou the sickest home run that I've ever had in a very long time, actually managed to end the session break-even after this guy lost 11 buy-ins to me :-)If you guys want to see some really funny hand, have a look at this hand here !  This was towards the end of the session, I already had some sick reads on that guy and knew exactly I was good here.Really tired - played all night long without any break - but this guy was just so terribly bad that kept rematching him.In the end, he lost at least 5 matches straight in a row to me, getting it in bad every single time - then he quit.Just think this hand is so funny because the way how this went down, I almost have "da nutz" ott after flatting his c/r and I'm clearly not going anywhere with my hand - each time he c/r me before, I either folded or had a hand that beat him, he simply couldn't believe me ...No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$57.67+$2.33 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1470  BBdavrow1530  Effective Stacks: 74bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, davrow raises to 120, Hero calls 80   Flop (240, 2 players) davrow checks, Hero checks   Turn (240, 2 players) davrow checks, Hero bets 120, davrow raises to 364, Hero calls 244   River (968, 2 players) davrow goes all-in 1046, Hero goes all-in 986   Final Pot: 3000 Hero shows a pair of Nines davrow shows high card King Hero wins 2940 ( won +1470 ) davrow lost -1470 


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Nice comeback!!! :)

Nice comeback!!! :)

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2nd hand against a good

2nd hand against a good reg.Feeling a bit lost in spots like this - since he's a good reg, I'd expect him to 3bet his 99+, so the only thing that really beats me here is two pairs and sets, but he can easily c/r me here with all sorts of draws or even worse 8x.Standard to gii ?No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$96.32+$3.68 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBTeobaldo1380  SBHero1620  Effective Stacks: 69bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, Teobaldo calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) Teobaldo checks, Hero bets 40, Teobaldo raises to 120, Hero raises to 280, Teobaldo goes all-in 1340, Hero calls 1060   Turn (2760, 2 players, 1 all-in)   River (2760, 2 players, 1 all-in)   Final Pot: 2760 


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Same guy, I managed to come

Same guy, I managed to come back a little bit.He was opening 95% of his buttons and I didn't 3bet him yet, so decided to do it here as a bluff.What's my plan on the flop, should I just c/f and give up or is it ok to cbet ?  And what about bet sizing ? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$96.32+$3.68 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBTeobaldo2040  BBHero960  Effective Stacks: 24bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is BB Teobaldo raises to 80, Hero raises to 240, Teobaldo calls 160   Flop (480, 2 players) Hero bets 240, Teobaldo raises to 920, Hero folds   Final Pot: 1640 


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With the A8, I'd make a much

With the A8, I'd make a much bigger flop 3-bet sizing, and I am getting it in without additional reads that his c/r range is tight.Usually you want to pick a better 3bet bluff hand than 82o. I'd c-bet the flop, probably a little smaller.

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The milestone post

Had to share this one with the world, so I posted it in the regs thread on 2+2 :-)http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=27135817&postcount=85629 


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76o against good reg - sd plus oc's

This one was against a good reg.  We registered at the same time, I asked whether he wants to chop, but he declined and wanted to play.  This happened a few hands into the game, nothing really happened so far.23 Hands, he opened 10/12 buttons, 3rd time that I flatted and he cbet every time so far.Since he's a good reg, I don't give him too much 5x after he flops my c/r, there's a fd and some sd's out there - and if I actually c/r him here with a fd, then I'm almost always gii if he comes over the top (all my fd's also have 2 overcards).So I'm basically betting for value ott against 4x / overcards / draws.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$96.32+$3.68 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBJagz71420  BBHero1580  Effective Stacks: 47bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB Jagz7 raises to 70, Hero calls 40   Flop (140, 2 players) Hero checks, Jagz7 bets 70, Hero raises to 210, Jagz7 calls 140   Turn (560, 2 players) Hero bets 315, Jagz7 calls 315   River (1190, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 985, Jagz7 goes all-in 825   Final Pot: 3000 


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Reg Wars - Part II

Another hand against a good reg.2nd time that she raised my river lead - any value in coming over the top here to maybe get some value from two pairs / sets ? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$96.32+$3.68 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBOshriAK2021  BBHero979  Effective Stacks: 49bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB OshriAK raises to 50, Hero calls 30    Flop (100, 2 players) Hero checks, OshriAK checks    Turn (100, 2 players) Hero checks, OshriAK checks    River (100, 2 players) Hero bets 60, OshriAK raises to 140, Hero calls 80    Final Pot: 380    So far, she mostly checked back ott - so I suspected here to be strong here - wasn't sure how to get most value though, either by c/ring here or jamming river.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$96.32+$3.68 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBOshriAK2071  BBHero929  Effective Stacks: 31bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB OshriAK raises to 75, Hero calls 45    Flop (150, 2 players) Hero checks, OshriAK bets 79, Hero calls 79    Turn (308, 2 players) Hero checks, OshriAK bets 120, Hero calls 120    River (548, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 655, OshriAK folds Final Pot: 1203 She said in the chat that she had QQ here, then immediately next hand I picked up a small PP. Only have a very small samplesize of 63 hands, but 3bet% is 4/16, coldcall% is 5/16 - I'd always jam here for ~25-30bb, but wasn't sure since we're still kinda deep here. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$96.32+$3.68 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter     BBOshriAK1797  SBHero1203  Effective Stacks: 40bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, OshriAK raises to 190, Hero goes all-in 1203, OshriAK calls 1013      Flop (2406, 2 players, 1 all-in)    Turn (2406, 2 players, 1 all-in)    River (2406, 2 players, 1 all-in)    Final Pot: 2406


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Reg Wars - Part III

Early on against another reg.  I expected him to come over the top with any better Ax / two pair, especially after the turn added a 2nd flush draw.Standard to c/r and gii here ?  A9 is my weakest Ace that I'm c/r'ing here.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$96.32+$3.68 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1620  SBPastillo1380  Effective Stacks: 69bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Pastillo raises to 50, Hero calls 30   Flop (100, 2 players) Hero checks, Pastillo bets 60, Hero raises to 180, Pastillo calls 120   Turn (460, 2 players) Hero bets 320, Pastillo calls 320   River (1100, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 1070, Pastillo goes all-in 830   Final Pot: 3000 


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The $200's ?

Still a bit early for this, but I'm so curios, so I'm asking anyways:How different is $200 and above from $100 - and which bankroll would you recommend to take a shot ?At the moment, I'm thinking maybe $10k and having played at least some 800-1000 games at the $100's, what do you think ?I'm also thinking about August and beyond, I'll most likely have a non-poker job again somewhere around end of August / early September, and I'm wondering whether I can get the required bankroll and skills to play $200/$300 by then to make some decent money even if I can only grind at the weekends.In the past, I've always played at least some 250 games per month, so if I could reach maybe some ~4% ROI at the $100's or 2.5-3% at the $200's, then I could still make some $1k/month even while having a full time job.


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No issues with the 67o hand,

No issues with the 67o hand, wp.I'd lead turn small with the A7 for thin value. I'd just flat the river raise against anybody halfway decent.With the T9, you're right that it's awkward to get value. I think the small bet on the turn is going to be a lot of Ax/Kx/7x/pocket pairs. I think I'd make a non-allin bet on the river. If there's any dynamic at all of him getting suspicious and making hero calls I think you have to raise turn/jam river, but absent that, I think your line is good (other than river sizing).I'm perfectly fine with jamming 44 esp given gameflow.I think your check/raise size is a little too big with the Ax, but only marginally. As played, I like betting turn and river, nh. 

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"How different is $200 and

"How different is $200 and above from $100 - and which bankroll would you recommend to take a shot ?"There is much more of regs sitting other regs when you make this jump, and the regs tend to be better, that's really the only difference."At the moment, I'm thinking maybe $10k and having played at least some 800-1000 games at the $100's, what do you think ?" Sounds about right. I'd take a 5BI shot with that roll and see how it goes.

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Thanks a lot for your quick

Thanks a lot for your quick answers :-)Regarding the 67o hand, is it standard for him to call me down and go broke with 4x there?  It wasn't even A4, but something like Q4o I think - and he had no draw.  I'm a bit confused here as to why this apparently good reg refuses to chop with me then calls me down that light.Got really unlucky in that 44 hand, Oshri showed up with Aces - but considering that she just lost a huge pot with Queens, I really didn't expect her to be that strong and there's really a decent chance she's doing that same large 3bet with all kinds of junk that has to fold against me jam or gii against a chop.And that Pastillo guy actually flatted me on this dangerous board with AQ - without any flush-draw.  Btw. what's my plan if I c/r to ~160 here and he comes over the top - I suppose we're gii here due to the many draws ?  And would you agree that A9 should be the lowest Ax hand to do that with ?  I just flat with A7 or worse in these spots, is that correct ?So regarding the $200's - how much better is the average opponent ?  Are they so good that I have to like crush everyone who has a 5% ROI at the $100's or is it not that extreme ?Maybe I should modify my moving up requirements and add a requirement to play more regs at the $100's once I've crossed the $8k mark.  At the moment, I'm purely bumhunting and chop with about everyone who accidentally joins at the same time - so I think once I'm feeling a bit more comfortable at the $100's, I'll stop that and just play them to see how it goes.


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Opening frequencies

After I read that thread about button opening frequencies on 2+2, I looked at my own stats and realized that I have 69% VP$IP / 64% PFR overall and 71/71% in the first blind level.Is this too tight or is it ok as long as I'm winning ?


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Party Time :-)

Ending today's session early - only 45 games, and I'm a bit short of my daily 1000 VPP target ...But I'm up 7 buy-ins and just crossed the lifetime threshold - never had a higher bankroll than today in my entire life - just made it past the $6250 mark :-)Had a very cool match against jenna86 this afternoon - she's really tough to play against and I promised her not to sit her anymore in near future.Then, I sat some "fish regs" and made some money.Only played 230 games at the $100's yet, but it's going really good so far.


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His 4x calldown is going to

His 4x calldown is going to be bad against most. I think your understanding of the Ax hand is pretty good, I don't mind villain's flat with AQ, I'd flat as well.It's not like a massive jump from $100s to $200s in terms of reg skill, but it is noticable.

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Don't worry too much about

Don't worry too much about opening range, seems pretty normal. Just look for spots to adapt and open more often when appropriate.

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I've recently come across a

I've recently come across a few players who're overall very tight oop, but 3bet a lot more than they're flatting - for instance they have 15% coldcall and 30% 3bet or something like that.What's the best strategy against these opponents ?I was thinking that since they only play less than 50% of their hands oop, it is +EV to open 100% of my buttons (is it?), but when I get 3bet they're stronger than you'd usually expect, so I should proceed cautiously against that.


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Flush-draw got there and my

Flush-draw got there and my two pair got counterfeited, but this guy was very loose and he had 62% river aggression frequency - maybe hero call him here ? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$96.32+$3.68 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBriverat5131790  SBHero1210  Effective Stacks: 61bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, riverat513 calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) riverat513 checks, Hero bets 40, riverat513 calls 40   Turn (160, 2 players) riverat513 checks, Hero bets 112, riverat513 calls 112   River (384, 2 players) riverat513 bets 220, Hero folds   Final Pot: 604 


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Results oriented - or am I really valuetowning myself here

Recently lost a ton of money in spots like this - but maybe I'm too results oriented.Guy berated me in chat, called me a stupid fish without any hand reading skills and stuff like that, so I start to question myself whether I should probably switch into check/call turn, check/fold river mode here and I'm in fact some huge fish for not seeing it ... ?No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$57.28+$2.72 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1368  SBgreenbast1632  Effective Stacks: 34bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is BB greenbast raises to 80, Hero calls 40    Flop (160, 2 players) Hero checks, greenbast bets 80, Hero raises to 240, greenbast calls 160    Turn (640, 2 players) Hero bets 320, greenbast calls 320    River (1280, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 728, greenbast calls 728    Final Pot: 2736


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So here I'm faced with a

So here I'm faced with a series of overbets early in the match.I think I should have folded otf here - not hero call him down.  Or maybe flat flop, fold turn ?No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$57.67+$2.33 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBLorielle L1030  BBHero1970  Effective Stacks: 52bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is BB Lorielle L raises to 40, Hero calls 20   Flop (80, 2 players) Hero checks, Lorielle L bets 100, Hero calls 100   Turn (280, 2 players) Hero checks, Lorielle L bets 320, Hero calls 320   River (920, 2 players) Hero checks, Lorielle L goes all-in 570, Hero calls 570   Final Pot: 2060 


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99 facing overcard and fd in reraised pot

One of these great spots where I 3bet some decent PP and there's an overcard and a flush draw on a board that's kinda hard to hit in a reraised pot.This is also some older hand that I just found in my database - I'm currently going over a few hands that I'm usure about how to play - but unfortunately, I don't remember anything about this guy anymore.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$57.67+$2.33 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1210  SBrobertotb1790  Effective Stacks: 30bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is BB robertotb raises to 80, Hero raises to 240, robertotb calls 160   Flop (480, 2 players) Hero bets 240, robertotb calls 240   Turn (960, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 730, robertotb calls 730   River (2420, 2 players, 1 all-in)   Final Pot: 2420 


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"I've recently come across a

"I've recently come across a few players who're overall very tight oop, but 3bet a lot more than they're flatting - for instance they have 15% coldcall and 30% 3bet or something like that. What's the best strategy against these opponents ? I was thinking that since they only play less than 50% of their hands oop, it is +EV to open 100% of my buttons (is it?), but when I get 3bet they're stronger than you'd usually expect, so I should proceed cautiously against that."Open close to 100% of buttons, yeah, but I don't agree that he's stronger than usual if he's 3betting 30%, that's going to be a lot of weaker stuff. I'd recommend limping stuff that flops well but can't call a 3bet.

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I think I'd call river on the

I think I'd call river on the Q8 hand. You'll see slowplayed flushes here for sure, but I think he should have enough JT/J9/T9 with a spade type hand that it justifies a call given his aggression frequency. He doesn't rep anything played like a normal person.You have top two on a dry board 34bb deep on the K8 hand - the money is going in. Unlucky.A7 hand isn't fun, that's for sure. I would generally fold to the turn overbet, but bad times.99 hand is standard, no better option.

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Smallstakes reg. He already

Smallstakes reg.He already checked back bottom pair, then raised my lead on another board of this type, therefor I decided to lead out here with my flopped straight.Wasn't sure what to do otr after the flush got there - since he already raised my flop lead before, I expected him to do the same with a fd - but on the other hand, I came over the top that hand and he folded - so maybe he was afraid I could do the same again here. No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$96.32+$3.68 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBHero1745  SBwond3rkiller1255  Effective Stacks: 31bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is BB wond3rkiller raises to 80, Hero calls 40   Flop (160, 2 players) Hero bets 112, wond3rkiller calls 112   Turn (384, 2 players) Hero bets 268, wond3rkiller calls 268   River (920, 2 players) Hero goes all-in 1285, wond3rkiller goes all-in 795   Final Pot: 3000 


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About that overbetting

So this guy was very aggro, 3betted and c/r me a ton.  This guy is a reg, but he was a little bit tilted - insisted on playing 4 tables against me to win some volume challenge, which I declined - and I was running like god against him.Would this be a good spot for him to overbet-jam river against me ?I think I made a huge mistake here by not barreling the turn since I barreld turn with all my value hands and flush draws before - therefor I have some weak showdown value type hand otr, but never any good Ax or the flush.  So the only hands that really beat him otr and that I'd play the same way are J6 / 46 and 66.However, it wouldn't really make that much sense for him to ever overbet-jam the flush since my range is so incredibly weak.And if I actually did bet this turn for let's say 70% pot and he checked to me otr - that'd be the perfect situation for me to overbet-jam, right ?  He's not a fish and he c/r me a ton before, so he'd c/r all his value hands to get them in otf / ott and I'd expect him to c/r all his fd's as well.  So by him check/calling 2 streets on this board, he has at most some weak Ax type hand, but never two pair or better.As played, there isn't really any point in doing anything other than folding otr since I'm not repping anything, right ?No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$96.32+$3.68 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBsa12511210  SBHero1790  Effective Stacks: 30bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 80, sa1251 calls 40    Flop (160, 2 players) sa1251 checks, Hero bets 80, sa1251 calls 80    Turn (320, 2 players) sa1251 checks, Hero checks    River (320, 2 players) sa1251 bets 240, Hero folds    Final Pot: 560


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Thin value jam otr ?

Same guy.So we're extremely shallow here.  He did 3bet-jam a ton and also jammed over my limps when we were below 15bb.  And this guy is a reg - he has his SS blocked, but rating 90 / avg stake $145 on PO, so we can easily assume he's at least halfway decent.Which means, he never has Ax here.  And he already has seen me limp-trap him with strong hands while we were below 15bb.  But I should never have any Ax here like ever - so I'd expect him to lead the flop with all his Qx type hands (he already lead flops in limped pots at these stack sizes before).Otr, he has 390 behind - going for some thin value here ?  Or maybe I should have bet/called turn instead ? No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$96.32+$3.68 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBsa1251550  SBHero2450  Effective Stacks: 14bb Blinds 20/40 Pre-Flop (60, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero calls 20, sa1251 checks   Flop (80, 2 players) sa1251 checks, Hero bets 40, sa1251 calls 40   Turn (160, 2 players) sa1251 checks, Hero checks   River (160, 2 players) sa1251 bets 120, Hero goes all-in 2370, sa1251 folds   Final Pot: 2650 


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Running like God

So I'm really running like God this week :-)Which makes me think that maybe this huge downswing in the middle of the month wasn't tilt after all but just normal variance.My BR just hit the $7k mark (including rakeback) and I had to quit my session early to avoid "winner's tilt" - 22k VPP's this month, 29k left till SuperNova.Also ordered the new Jared Tendler book a few days ago, am really looking forward to read it.


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Leading seems OK with the 75.

Leading seems OK with the 75. I'm also jamming the river. There's far more than just flushes in his range.With the KQ, it is a decent spot for him to bluff river, your range is going to be pretty capped not betting this turn and he can rep made flushes decently.I think the jam with the J6 is definitely too thin. He's going to be pretty polarized with this river sizing. Checking turn is fine.Glad you're running well!!! :)

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This guy had 25% 3bet% - too

This guy had 25% 3bet% - too deep to jam ?No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$96.32+$3.68 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1650  BBDavidPet11350  Effective Stacks: 68bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, DavidPet1 raises to 140, Hero goes all-in 1650, DavidPet1 goes all-in 1210


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This guy was super passive,

This guy was super passive, any way to get away from this hand, maybe otr ?No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$96.32+$3.68 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBDavidPet11902  BBHero1098  Effective Stacks: 37bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is BB DavidPet1 raises to 60, Hero calls 30   Flop (120, 2 players) Hero checks, DavidPet1 bets 75, Hero calls 75   Turn (270, 2 players) Hero checks, DavidPet1 bets 150, Hero calls 150   River (570, 2 players) Hero checks, DavidPet1 bets 330, Hero calls 330   Final Pot: 1230 


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Random fish, 1st time that he

Random fish, 1st time that he 3bet me, but he has been aggro before post-flop.Good defend with QJo here ? Ott I thought that the Ace is probably a decent part of his 3betting range, so there isn't really that much to get any more value from betting.Any easy fold otr I assume.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$96.32+$3.68 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1585  BBiceman4pot1415  Effective Stacks: 47bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, iceman4pot raises to 210, Hero calls 150   Flop (420, 2 players) iceman4pot checks, Hero bets 210, iceman4pot calls 210   Turn (840, 2 players) iceman4pot checks, Hero checks   River (840, 2 players) iceman4pot bets 870, Hero folds   Final Pot: 1710 


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I'm definitely jamming 77 vs

I'm definitely jamming 77 vs that frequency, nh.I'm folding the 89 on the river against a passive player. This cbet sizing and 3 bets is very likely to be a strong hand. The one thing that would change this is that if he's the type who can't value bet "thin" - his only big hands are flushes and full houses, and most passive players don't barrel flushes. So I'd want to know that he can have A9 here with this sizing. But that also doesn't really matter if he shows actually close to no bluff frequency, sometimes all he reps are full houses and that's just actually all he has.I fold QJo pre against this 3bet size and low 3bet frequency, but it's close. Your line post is good.

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Another of these passive guys

Another of these passive guys - but he already c/r 4 of 17 times over ~100 hands.My plan was to proceed very cautiously ott, but then improved to a fd - but I was really unsure whether to look him up otr./Edit: In the rematch, he checked back flop, then raised turn with AJ on ATx where turn added a 2nd flush draw - I jammed over the top with AT and he snapcalled with top pair, no redraw.  If I had this read before, then I probably should lean more towards calling otr here / or even jamming ott here.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$96.32+$3.68 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero1415  BBapentaros1585  Effective Stacks: 47bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, apentaros calls 30    Flop (120, 2 players) apentaros checks, Hero bets 60, apentaros raises to 150, Hero calls 90    Turn (420, 2 players) apentaros bets 300, Hero calls 300    River (1020, 2 players) apentaros bets 630, Hero calls 630    Final Pot: 2280


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Doesn't sound very passive to

Doesn't sound very passive to me! I would just jam over the turn bet - he only needs like 30% to call the shove, so it's going to be best against his draws and he's already shown the ability to overplay top pair, so we don't have to worry about him folding that.

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minraise/calling for 12bb

Just a quick question:Today, I minraise/called AJo for ~12bb in a 100 EUR turbo against a reg.  He then asked me in chat why I'm minraising this hand at these stack sizes rather than openshoving and said something like his 3bet-jamming range is exactly the same as his flatting range if I openjammed a balanced range.Should I change anything in my play against this guy ?


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Flatting 3bets in superturbos

When I'm faced with a 3bet early in a superturbo readless, how loose should I call them and which hands should I just jam over the top ?So far, I've been jamming KQ, A9s+, A8o+, 22+ - but I think I have been flatting smaller 3bets too wide.  For instance, I'm just so used to flat a 3bet early on against an unknown with hands like JTs - but then I suddenly look at a t240 pot with just t380 behind and have no idea what to do.


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"Today, I minraise/called AJo

"Today, I minraise/called AJo for ~12bb in a 100 EUR turbo against a reg.  He then asked me in chat why I'm minraising this hand at these stack sizes rather than openshoving and said something like his 3bet-jamming range is exactly the same as his flatting range if I openjammed a balanced range. Should I change anything in my play against this guy ?"Yeah. If he actually has no 3bet light range, then pound him with minraises at this stack depth. Opening wide 10-15bb deep against people who are too tight at this stack depth was one of my biggest edges against regs in STs.

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"When I'm faced with a 3bet

"When I'm faced with a 3bet early in a superturbo readless, how loose should I call them and which hands should I just jam over the top ? So far, I've been jamming KQ, A9s+, A8o+, 22+ - but I think I have been flatting smaller 3bets too wide.  For instance, I'm just so used to flat a 3bet early on against an unknown with hands like JTs - but then I suddenly look at a t240 pot with just t380 behind and have no idea what to do."Your jamming range looks fine. You can definitely flat JTs and other suited connector hands - just pick up some equity and get it in :) Post confusing hands.

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Cool :-) Another quick ST

Cool :-)Another quick ST question:How many tables would you recommend me to play ?  I started to read over all the other student's threads and saw that chadders 4-tabled them, but he was also very good in them.Do you think 2-tabling is fine in the beginning or should I only single-table while I'm still learning ?I still don't want to fully switch over, so I'm still opensitting $100 / 100 EUR / $200 turbos while playing these and sometimes I end up at 3 tables which kinda sucks.And how many of these do I need to play before I have some anywhere decent samplesize ?  My gut feeling tells me at least 1k or is that still too few of them ?


mersenneary's picture
It's really just where you

It's really just where you feel comfortable, I wouldn't do more than 2 as a beginner, but I think 2 is definitely doable depending on your comfort level.The bigger sample the better obv for STs. If you're a 53% winner at STs, you'll win 500 or less in a 1k sample around 3% of the time (assuming independent events, constant skill level, no tilt, etc). So that's a decent place to start. You really need 10k to feel super solid about it given all the extraneous factors.

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Pick up some equity and gii

This one is against chadders; 1st time he donked into me.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBchadders0510  SBHero490  Effective Stacks: 16bb Blinds 15/30 Pre-Flop (45, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 60, chadders0 calls 30    Flop (120, 2 players) chadders0 bets 60, Hero raises to 150, chadders0 folds    Final Pot: 330 2 matches later, he started to play back at my button opens and started to 3bet me more often. Standard to defend and gii here ?No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero500  BBchadders0500  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, chadders0 raises to 100, Hero calls 60 Flop (200, 2 players) chadders0 bets 80, Hero goes all-in 400, chadders0 folds Final Pot: 680


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Stack sizes ott / otr

I've some problem with stack sizes ott / otr.No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter BBdadsmistress440  SBHero560  Effective Stacks: 22bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, dadsmistress calls 20    Flop (80, 2 players) dadsmistress checks, Hero bets 50, dadsmistress calls 50    Turn (180, 2 players) dadsmistress checks, Hero bets 140, dadsmistress calls 140    River (460, 2 players) dadsmistress checks, Hero goes all-in 330, dadsmistress goes all-in 210    Final Pot: 1000    No Limit Holdem Tournament • 2 Players$58.74+$1.26 Hand converted by the official HUSNG.com hand converter SBHero510  BBg-xalkida490  Effective Stacks: 25bb Blinds 10/20 Pre-Flop (30, 2 players) Hero is SB Hero raises to 40, g-xalkida calls 20 Flop (80, 2 players) g-xalkida bets 20, Hero raises to 80, g-xalkida calls 60 Turn (240, 2 players) g-xalkida checks, Hero bets 160, g-xalkida calls 160 River (560, 2 players) g-xalkida bets 80, Hero goes all-in 230, g-xalkida goes all-in 130 Final Pot: 1000


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