xSCWx Video 30 - Two $500+20 regular speed games on Full Tilt

December 17, 2009 - 18:21

In this video xSCWx plays two $500+20 regular speed games against unknown opponents.
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In this video xSCWx plays two $500+20 regular speed games against unknown opponents.
adastfe says:
Why is his play @21:30 with 74 that bad?
Raised pre, cbet T74ss, ckd back 7, bet K
He turned fullhouse and doesn’t need to wory about flush, straight and being outdrawn. From his perspective you can't have much because you'd have raised Tx on the flop. You could have 7, 4, 89, 56, spades, 55, 66, 22, 33 although most of the time he expects you to just 3bet shove with small pocket pairs . So he checks to induce bluffs from you on the river, gives you chance to catch your draw and can bet river himself if you check. And I think that's exactly how he would play his air hands on that turn because it's not that good card to double barrel as a bluff. And because of that I expect a lof of worse hands to fold.
Although now that I'm thinking about it, there aren't that many worse hands. Majority of your range is draws, 7x. I can see somebody check/shoving turn in your place with draws, 7x and even air. In which case he would get villain's stack regardless of the river. It's also possible that villain just flat calls turn bet with draws.
If he checks back turn and all the draws miss then he's only getting value if villain bluffs with busted draws. There aren't many hands in your range to even hero call him with. If he checks back turn and draws hit then he gets villain's stack. So by checking back turn he's only giving free card and is missing a lot of value. He's very dependent on the river card.
After writing all that I've convinced myself that beting turn is better line. Do you think he should have fired turn as well for value from pairs, draws, bluffs? In the video you said it's "beyond awful" and just moved on to the next hand. Now I think I know why but I'd like to hear your thought process.
thanks
xSCWx says:
I wanted to discuss this hand more, but I started to get dragged into other hands and I felt it would be confusing if I continued talking about it so I opted to let it go. This is definitely one of the drawbacks of making live videos as opposed to recording afterwards. I should have been clearer in this spot by specifically saying that I was concerned with him checking behind on the turn, and commenting on videos like this one really helps us understand what mistakes we make so we can improve them in the future.
On the turn, we have 1190 remaining in our effective stacks and 390 in the pot. If he bets a little over half pot he can probably get called by any draw (they have decent implied odds this deep), and given that none of the draws improved, he will probably get called by any pair as well. With stacks this deep, he will want to get at least 2 bets (the turn and the river) out of me to maximize his value with his full house. If I raise or lead at some point then he will be able to get his entire stack in. However, if he checks back the turn then instead of getting 2-3 bets against me he will usually get 1, and on rare occasions get 2. I would not be leading many rivers with made hands because I would want the busted draws to be able to bluff into me. If I do lead against a player like this, I will tend tend to have a busted draw and won't be calling his raise.
I hope this is clearer. I just got up so I am still a little groggy.
PuertoRican says:
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dillerboerge says:
Awesome video.
But ffs that constant right clicking is tilting the shit out of me.
RyPac13 says:
I do that too much too, but it's a left click. I notice when I play (not as much in videos anymore I think) that I am constantly clicking the left button on the table as I'm waiting for my opponent.