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- Elliot Roe
Turbo, playing gambling players.
July 26, 2012 - 04:38
First i prefer to say i sign immediately to play this kind of player, but it appears to be not so easy...
I play turbo on .fr 20€, i saw a lot of video here, special thanks to coach :) , but i don't really found interesting video with this players and interesting hand.
Profil i have the most difficulty is player have around Vpip 100% IP and OOP, call any 3bet , donk overbet, CR a lot etc...
I means they are playing all hands like this.
I'm pretty new in snghu with 600 mtt and 8% Roi, of course it's really easy to win this players when you hit some flop because there are also calling station with any2cards.
One exemple may be you are sb with AKs and he raise 3x level 1, you 3bet to 180 he snap call (like usual) and flop come 237r you cbet 180 and he raise 700 !! you have to fold even you could have the best hand , if you raise IP the same hand he call from bb and could also donk overbet the same flop to 400 in 120, what we could do exept folding ?!
My question is what kind of adaptation could we have, may be keep pot very small untill you hit the flop, 3bet smaller or not 3betting ? min raise or limp IP, make some hero call ? How could we reduce variance against this profil, if we can :P
July 29, 2012 - 04:05#1
Raise big for value.3bet for
Raise big for value.
3bet for value.
Cbet for value.
You need to figure out how big you can raise until he quits calling 100%. If you can open to 5BB with AA, why should you open to 3BB instead? If he calls a preflop-3bet-shove AI 50BB deep very wide, why give him the chance to fold on the flop?
You do not wanna raise hands that run bad versus a 100% calling range postflop. Fold crap like Q3o. Raise with value hands (strong Aces, big pairs) and limp with strong drawing hands (suited connectors, one-gap and two-gap suited connetors, offsuited connectors) and play them passivly unless you hit your draw then you start out betting big.
As for the hand example you posted:
1) do not think about the result. Of course you do 3bet this hand big time versus this particular opponent.
2) if your opponent does not fold to cbets, your only value comes from the high card you hold, so there is very little reason to build a pot. Building a pot is something you do if you wish to commit to the pot - which in this situation you clearly do not want
If your opponent does donk a lot / 3bet your cbets frequently you should chose a very strong open-raiseing range (TT+, AQs+, KQs......that kind of stuff) and limp or call with strong drawing hands. You will get enough value from your value hands and the turbo structure allows you to wait for good hands.
August 1, 2012 - 18:20#3
Barrin has good advice
Barrin has good advice although Id opt to be more aggressive with a wider range rather than limping