The Truth About The Poker Community
Mersenneary opens the video talking about this video title, then leads into reflections of his own shortcomings, wrongdoings and interesting situations that have happened to him in the poker world. Having cleansed himself, he then dives into the problems of the poker community, using real examples of players and situations and markets within the poker world.
This is a very different type of video that really reflects on incentive problems and observations in the poker player world.
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I thought this video turned
I thought this video turned out great and had a lot of interesting and relevant stuff within. A few thoughts:
- The title; Reflections sounded a lot less interesting and engaging to the audience than "The Truth," at least to me. Any thoughts there?
- I thought the section about the poker coaching world was extremely good and relevant to a good bit of the poker world, so I made that the free embedded clip. The part about sweat sessions is something I've agreed with for awhile, for the most part.
- Cutcha was unbanned a week or two ago (reference).
- Being stiffed by the trader was a really interesting story, same with the cash guy (don't wanna spoil any of it).
- The US facing site stuff is also interesting and I agree with both his views on BCP and Lock (there may be some back and forth influence there between us, but that obviously happens when two people discuss decisions and issues together).
- True +EV theft is really interesting and I loved the way he explained it. I almost wish it could only work that way, but unfortunately it seems increasingly often to work where someone steals a stupidly small amount of money, ruins their reputation and that is it. All or nothing/Dean Letham and Maxi Stochyk come to mind. Neither of those thefts was worth the time they put into poker or their potential future gain*
It will be interesting to see comments on this video.
*In Maxi's case, I think he was a losing player, so the immediate gain was greater, but the long term cost plus the comparison to a $8hr job both end up with the scam coming up short monetary wise (-EV).
For those who have been
Just saw the clip and since
Just saw the clip and since it seems to be more about insights and talking topics for the community as a whole would it not be good for it to be realeased as a free video for everyone to see? Definitely a good point about the coach/real estate agent analogy.
I thought about making it a
I thought about making it a free or standard tier video, but I ended up going premium because:
- I didn't want to imply that this non strategy video was inferior.
- I think it is very valuable and is premium worthy.
- I ended up taking what I felt was the widest impacting section (not necessarily "best", as that is probably audience dependent), the coaching part, and making it free and on youtube.
- It is a different type of video and would be great for everyone to see in whole, but so would all of Mers hyper strategy videos.
So that was really the thought process. Under the new site format, we may end up doing shorter, thought videos and release them for free as part of our expanded free content (beginning October 1st). We'll have the weekly high stakes report, high stakes hand packages, news, those MochaChoca videos, blog roundups, short strategy clips, classroom style lessons and once in awhile a full free video on the site to make up the daily content (and of course the products will be video packages, similar to the Chadders Hyper Turbo Pack and HokieGreg Packs).
ryan in about a month the
Memberships will go away.
Memberships will go away. Standard and Premium will become video packages of material (same as now but no new content).
New content on the main page will be free (as described above) and we will be building video packs to sell separately (beginner hyper, high stakes turbo, mental game, even heads up cash type packs). Rates will vary by packs (beginner content lower, high stakes content higher).
There will be a newsletter that goes out in the next week or two. I've been trying to balance being informative with not trying to hype it up too much since it's still 5+ weeks away. I also want the changes to stand on themselves, not look good because I talk about them a lot or talk them up as the greatest thing. It should naturally work out a lot better for existing and future members, more of what everybody wants for fair pricing, and coaches will be more aligned with success and continued high standards.
Here is a thread about it, I'll bump it and copy my post over there: http://www.husng.com/content/1-year-option-removed-3-month-option-2-mont...
I disagree with your comments
I disagree with your comments about live sweats. Any experienced coach DOES have the responsibility to talk students out of using this format. It's not a situation where you should say "Well I'll tell him it's not a great format and if he still wants to do it, it's his problem."
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Good point Cog, and when I
Good point Cog, and when I said I agree with Mers, I meant I agree with him saying that live sweats are something that I'm hesitant about a lot of times because I feel like the value is better placed somewhere else. I often suggest leakfinders and HH reviews to newer students (though currently on a hiatus from coaching).
no offense but its pretty
no offense but its pretty weird to hear your opinion on live sweating when you have done it yourself aswell as a coaching service
Certainly no offense taken.
I may be jumping the gun
I may be jumping the gun here, but I would guess maybe you coached emilio and did live sweats?
Emilio, it's my opinion that solid, higher stakes guys can get a lot more from live sweats.
When you get newer players though, they need more time to go over fundamentals, more time to digest things and doing it in the live sweat method is just overhwelming for them I feel like. Newer players take a lot more time to make decisions and are less comfortable.
Now, that doesn't mean live sweats are perfect for higher stakes players, but you can see a lot more value on average for guys that are comfortable playing 2+ tables, firing up 1 or 2 on a live sweat, used to making a lot of standard decisions. They can take feedback live a lot faster and more efficiently without screwing up the dynamic of the game.
Also, you don't find many players that have success at $50 that just don't listen well. In some sweats with lower stakes players, either earlier in my coaching career or guys that just insist we do a sweat despite my advice not to, you do get guys that flat out won't listen to you, and it's sad because those guys aren't getting much value and won't go anywhere if they can't listen. I try to do a writeup or provide some extra post session info in those situations to those guys, but that's probably to make myself feel better when I really think about it, because if I had to bet, I would bet heavy that they will never succeed.
nah i never got coaching from
nah i never got coaching from mers, I dont really disagree a lot with his thought process, its just that concrete situation made me think like.. "ugh.. ok"
didnt want to flame mers or anything, just pointing out as a curiosity for other viewers that he did live sessions before and now he thinks this.. everyone is up to think whatever they want and get their own conclusions from this
is lock *that* bad? Recently
is lock *that* bad? Recently deposited a small amount, not planning on keeping a lot on there though.
I did not like this video it
I did not like this video it seemed mean spirited and a lot of the points in which you made had a lot of inconsistencies in them, also it really seemed to me like you were mostly calling out hokiegreg throughout the entire thing. Although you never actually said his name the truth about the coaching world, lock poker stuff, the reference in which you made about ppl at the tail end of their careers and many other references seemed to directly relate to him.
I have no idea if he was
I have no idea if he was referring to anyone in particular but he's right about somewhat hidden interests. For instance, I wanted to take part in the staking project setup by other HUSNG.com coaches but it turns out the main requirement isn't being a strong winning player. It's not having a Lock account so that you can be signed up under Hokie's rakeback. While this wasn't mentioned anywhere, it was an important drive behind the project. This is probably a fair trade-off but I wish this information was provided from the start so I avoid wasting time in the submission process.
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just to add to the live sweat
just to add to the live sweat coaching discussion, I rem back in Feb you suggested sweat sessions for the 2 hours we did. not sure if you changed your mind about it now, but in hindsight I obviously see that other formats would've been better
Ok I appologize for the
I appologize for the misunderstanding, I thought that that you were taking shots at hokiegreg a player/coach I respect a lot. After realizing that you weren't targeting him directly I removed all bias and rewatched the vid and I actually do agree with many of the points stated throughout the vid especially the coaching world stuff.
Re: Katipo
First off, the main requirement is a belief a player will be +ev. I don't mean any offense by this, but, there are few-to-no backers out there who would offer the deal you wanted. You were looking to be staked at $500s. You were currently playing $50s. Although you claimed you had played $200s in the past, you couldn't show any games tracked where you had played over $100s because the site you mainly played on (Bovada) didn't track results.
As stated, you were currently playing $50s. I then mentioned a $100-$200 mix of lobbies to start. You said it would have to be higher than $200s.
Also, being signed up under "Hokie's Rakeback" is a low priority for us. Of the 3 different sites we have players on, Stars, iPoker, and Lock, Lock has by far the least amount of players. And, we certainly could have required players to play there to be staked.
On the other hand, when we have people who can only play in the US, we are obviously going to want them to be under Greg's referral. He isn't a normal affiliate. He is a sponsored pro at their site and part of his obligation is to bring in new players.
The only players we have signed up at Lock at the moment are US players and players who are in countries not serviced by iPoker. So, although it is a preference to us, it was not an "important drive" behind the project and certainly not a "requirement".
In the first meeting it
In the first meeting it seemed clear that already having a Lock account was a serious problem although not insurmountable. I guess there was a misunderstanding about how imprtant this was. In any case, I've been in the top 10 on Bodog since the first year I started playing HUSNGs and I'm surprised that's not evidence enough. I was playing 50s because it's hard to deposit a lot of money through Western Union, and not because that had anything to do with my skill level.
Either way, I'm glad I didn't go through with it because now I'm rolled for 500s on my own money without needing to give anyone else a cut. Although, I've since focused on $183 STs more than $500 regular speeds primarily due to lack of action.
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