Sa1251 Faces a New Super Turbo Regular

"good video. as usual. i have a dream of you, flipflop  and other guys of similar caliber stop making HTurbo videos :) thats just stupid in every case possible."

thank you. i appreciate the kind words. 

"he flats A8s preflop... in ST.. this one showdown is absolutely enough to mark him as a clueless fish and you go by assumption u get herocalled by "thinking" player with reg tendencies?"

i don't think flatting A8s at ~25bbs to a minraise is nearly enough to classify a player as "clueless fish." i'd probably classify him as a player who "flats A8s oop to minraise at deepish stacks." making such harsh assumptions in notes without much information can be a critical mistake in future games if you don't remember much else. 

"6:10 so u saying u dont have 4xs in ur craise range on this turn? u think hes not betting this turn based on what? ur initial assumption hes good? (i agree then.. but problem is hes not)."

i think on a 4x turn (esp one that completes the flush iirc), it is a card that he will check back an enormous portion of his range (inc top/middle pair, possibly overpairs, two overcards with a flush draw). although i believe those hands are in his check back range a lage % of the time b/c i'll be c/c turns so often on this runout, i also think he'll be willing to call a bet when i lead that turn with those hands enough to make it the optimal line out of all the possibilities. 

 "all in all Sean why you continue to think hes ANY good for rest of the video? He butchered minimum 2 plays (both showdowns weve seen) in 15 minutes + couple of spots like checkback limped pot /snapfold to turn probe.. + 14% 3bet and <40 BBVPIP over 350 hands? in HT? against very good aggro player like you ? and u continue to assume hes not braindead? is this a level or what?"

again, i think it's rash to call this player "braindead" due to a couple of plays without us having much history. i tried to base this video on the information i had at the time, and not on the future hands we played against each other. yes, i think i matchup well vs his low 3bet % and low oop vpip, but i wouldn't make such a sweeping statement about this opponent's level of play based on a couple dozen games, and especially not on an iffy call down early in game one. if there's one piece of information i'd away from the A8s hand, it's that he understood that might be a board where he's perceived as weak and i'll be barreling more often. i try to give my opponents more credit rather than less - it helps my stress levels :) 

"i really like your play as usually and i would like to see more videos at the ~low-midstakes of you. Would you also review a game of me playing on pokerstars? I usually 4 table 15-30$ buyin."

thanks :) yeah, contact me at the e-mail address i posted in the last comment. 

"First hand on the T86ccc do you really think that is a board where you can cbet 100% because villain isn't bluffing much at all when he raises? Of course he isn't bluffing much at all, he doesn't have to because he hits that board so often. I mean, he's probably check raising about 35% JUST with value hands + some K high flush draws, he's probably easily flatting another 30% with hands that won't fold too often when you barrel (maybe if you 3 barrel they do though). In other words, if we assume we need more than 33% folds for a 1/2pot cbet to better than simply giving up (obv we don't always lose the hand when we cbet with crap, but we also don't lose every time we check back) cbetting would be actually pretty close to just clicking fold instead.

I would definitely check back a decent amount on such a board. Obviously we have a flush there and it doesn't matter, but what would you do say you have bottom pair with a gutshot, no flush draw? Cbet fold to a raise? Cbet get it in? Would you still cbet A/K high there? It really doesn't feel like the best choice imo, I might be wrong though so I'd like to hear your thoughts on that."

keep in mind this hand takes place without any history with villain. this villain was open-sitting 200s,300s,and 500s. figuring there was a plausible chance of playing a set of games against this player, i didn't play this hand in a vacuum such as one you are discussing right now. when i make a cbet with air on this board, i'm not cbetting and giving up on the hand. this is a spot where it's likely i'll go three streets. along with the % of time i make this player fold on different runouts, i'll be able to gain information on how he played a hand on this very wet board which will benefit me (imo more than him) in future games that i figured had a realistic chance of happening.   

i stoved a c/r range against the player i'm describing. i included EVERY high card + gutshot club draw i possibly could, i.e. the botom part of the range is Jc7x, along with most Tx, two pair hands and made flushes. if this villian actually was c/r ALL of these combinations 100% of the time, and if this villain had the std oop calling range i figured for a decent villain at these stakes, it'd be about 30% of the time. using this same std oop calling range, he'd c/f about 25% of the time. 

extrapolating this information, i also figure his c/c range to be quite weak (i.e. a pair of 8s without a flush draw). i'll be able to barrel a ton of turns and rivers with this information to get a fold by the river. although 6x turn is one of the worst turns to continue to barrel, and one that i'm probably not a majority of the time with air, this actually makes me believe my opponent is thinking at somewhat of a high level noticing his perceived weaker range. i think having the intention of barreling this board against this type of villain will be more profitable than checking and essentially giving up on the hand. keep in mind i'm very rarely only 2 barreling in this spot with the given information. against this type of villain, i really don't think we win the hand often at all when we check back on the flop with an ace high/king high type hand. we won't get credit for clubs, and we won't get much credit for 4 to a straight boards (although we probably should). i doubt we are winning the pot any more than the times we do hit our Kx/Ax that isn't a club), and even then, our hand is very transparent. my belief is three barreling will yield more profit than this alternative.