Hey guys, That site is against Pokerstars Terms and Conditions, so if Stars catches you using it you can have your account closed.
I don't know if they can actually catch you but its not worth the risk in my opinion...
Stars game integrity team is actively working right now on shutting down this site ( and another I won't name here). These sites are illegal and I would be very careful before to give them my payment details.
The word illegal is incorrect. The site is not in line with Pokerstars terms and conditions. I would use the site when not logged into Pokerstars. Sharkscope was banned years ago too.
These sites help players catch cheaters such as robot software. It also helps find coaches that do not tell the truth or otherwise hide their results. I can find every coach on this site and other sites if I want to thank you to this site.
I found the sharkscope story, but stupid spam filter keeps blocking it. It's on www[dot]pokernewsdaily[dot]com/pokerstars-bans-sharkscope-use-by-players-641/ but replace the [dot] with real dots. the spam filter blocks it if i try to put it in like a normal link.
Man, that site gives you much more information than sharkscope. These 2 sites are completely different.
Sharkscope only tracks tournament results and that other site also gives you all preflop and posflop statistics about other players.
That is called data mining, it's not allowed on PS or any other site, and Pokerstars is very strict about this. If you use those statistics from that site that is considered cheating (by Pokerstars) and if you get caught you will get you Pokerstars account closed and all your money will be lost.
If you still decide to use it, that's your own choice, but we told you what will happen if you get caught...
no illegal is correct. That's why PS is considering legal options. When you join you agree to the T&C, it's a contract in a way. if you don't respect these T&C you are in breach of your contract.
Does if say in T&C that you can not show any results ? Or does it say which results you can show? There is many results sites posted on this site. Sharkscope and Official Poker Results + more. If you are a player of the games how can a cartel of players decide who gets to play in a game against bad players but cannot show the results of players?
Also if you are a player of the site for many years Pokerstars was illegal in places like USA.
Stars allows results sites in the condition that players can opt out of them.
This is because some players do not want their ROI information to be publicly available and they have a right to privacy. Also, it would give an unfair advantage to players who are able to obtain ROI data about players who have not consented for their information to be shown.
Everyone can opt out of results sites (or opt in if you want to join a cartel for instance). Just transfer 1c to "ResultSites" on PS and they will opt you out of all of them.
Regz.club is not a result site but a data mining site (against T&C). Big difference.
Also players cannot opt out (Also against Stars data policy). The site won't last long (Stars has closed many before) and rightly so.
I did scan ToC because I was curious. I didn't find what Genher said though on quick scan (to be clear, a QUICK scan with control + f and some browsing) - https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/tos/
But I've always understood it the way Genher does, people need to be able to opt out. I dislike that personally (my alternative is to auto block anyone that hasn't won $x in a year, say $20,000, and auto unlock everyone above that, to allow interest in the games, since so many players only care how much money good players have won and there's no real reason to see losing player stats), but that is neither here nor there.
The upsides are pretty clear, it helps find new cheaters and it creates interest in big winners. The downsides are also clear, losers get berated and have no privacy.
Do you believe all tournament results should be private too?
See, I don't see it as a player's financial data. So many people are backed, or play other games, or stake money (and win or lose on that), have rakeback deals, play other sites nobody pays attention to and so on.
I see it as a measure of success. It's like a batting average in baseball, a touchdown % in football. Goals scored in soccer.
I don't care if a player has 50% or 100% of themselves when they win 300k in husngs. I just care that they were good enough to take 300k off other players, that's pretty cool and neat to me.
Tounament results are shown. You can't hide your entrant or result in WSOP, WPT, etc. Obviously I'm not arguing that PS doesn't have a right to do what they want with their site, I'm just arguing my opinion on what I think a better policy is (moderately good, average and bad results if players want, celebrate successful ones in this game of intense competition).
I just looked up the results on both sites and compared and it looks very accurate. I signed up with discount code tenp and got 10% off too.
Think site is already down, tried to register and culdn't do it. Hope this was not a trick to plant some malware.
VHL
It works fine for me. It is not malware, it is a tracking site for hypers that doesn't block players.
Hey guys, That site is against Pokerstars Terms and Conditions, so if Stars catches you using it you can have your account closed.
I don't know if they can actually catch you but its not worth the risk in my opinion...
"If you want to win, you must not lose!"
what he says.
Stars game integrity team is actively working right now on shutting down this site ( and another I won't name here). These sites are illegal and I would be very careful before to give them my payment details.
The word illegal is incorrect. The site is not in line with Pokerstars terms and conditions. I would use the site when not logged into Pokerstars. Sharkscope was banned years ago too.
These sites help players catch cheaters such as robot software. It also helps find coaches that do not tell the truth or otherwise hide their results. I can find every coach on this site and other sites if I want to thank you to this site.
I found the sharkscope story, but stupid spam filter keeps blocking it. It's on www[dot]pokernewsdaily[dot]com/pokerstars-bans-sharkscope-use-by-players-641/ but replace the [dot] with real dots. the spam filter blocks it if i try to put it in like a normal link.
Man, that site gives you much more information than sharkscope. These 2 sites are completely different.
Sharkscope only tracks tournament results and that other site also gives you all preflop and posflop statistics about other players.
That is called data mining, it's not allowed on PS or any other site, and Pokerstars is very strict about this. If you use those statistics from that site that is considered cheating (by Pokerstars) and if you get caught you will get you Pokerstars account closed and all your money will be lost.
If you still decide to use it, that's your own choice, but we told you what will happen if you get caught...
"If you want to win, you must not lose!"
I don't use those hud stats. I do see who the top players are though. It is very interesting to view the very best of the games.
no illegal is correct. That's why PS is considering legal options. When you join you agree to the T&C, it's a contract in a way. if you don't respect these T&C you are in breach of your contract.
Does if say in T&C that you can not show any results ? Or does it say which results you can show? There is many results sites posted on this site. Sharkscope and Official Poker Results + more. If you are a player of the games how can a cartel of players decide who gets to play in a game against bad players but cannot show the results of players?
Also if you are a player of the site for many years Pokerstars was illegal in places like USA.
Stars allows results sites in the condition that players can opt out of them.
This is because some players do not want their ROI information to be publicly available and they have a right to privacy. Also, it would give an unfair advantage to players who are able to obtain ROI data about players who have not consented for their information to be shown.
Everyone can opt out of results sites (or opt in if you want to join a cartel for instance). Just transfer 1c to "ResultSites" on PS and they will opt you out of all of them.
Regz.club is not a result site but a data mining site (against T&C). Big difference.
Also players cannot opt out (Also against Stars data policy). The site won't last long (Stars has closed many before) and rightly so.
I'm more of the mind that Genher is right here.
I did scan ToC because I was curious. I didn't find what Genher said though on quick scan (to be clear, a QUICK scan with control + f and some browsing) - https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/tos/
But I've always understood it the way Genher does, people need to be able to opt out. I dislike that personally (my alternative is to auto block anyone that hasn't won $x in a year, say $20,000, and auto unlock everyone above that, to allow interest in the games, since so many players only care how much money good players have won and there's no real reason to see losing player stats), but that is neither here nor there.
The upsides are pretty clear, it helps find new cheaters and it creates interest in big winners. The downsides are also clear, losers get berated and have no privacy.
I don't think anyone should have to reveal any of their financial if they don't wish to do so. Winning player or not
Do you believe all tournament results should be private too?
See, I don't see it as a player's financial data. So many people are backed, or play other games, or stake money (and win or lose on that), have rakeback deals, play other sites nobody pays attention to and so on.
I see it as a measure of success. It's like a batting average in baseball, a touchdown % in football. Goals scored in soccer.
I don't care if a player has 50% or 100% of themselves when they win 300k in husngs. I just care that they were good enough to take 300k off other players, that's pretty cool and neat to me.
Tounament results are shown. You can't hide your entrant or result in WSOP, WPT, etc. Obviously I'm not arguing that PS doesn't have a right to do what they want with their site, I'm just arguing my opinion on what I think a better policy is (moderately good, average and bad results if players want, celebrate successful ones in this game of intense competition).