PrimordialAA Archive Video 01 - Heads Up SNG From Scratch Part 1 of 2

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In part 1 of this 2 part series, PrimordialAA introduces us to the basic fundamentals of heads up sngs.  The video features a powerpoint presentation of the fundamentals and then actual gameplay to demonstrate those fundamentals.

Note: This video was previously featured on thesngacademy and is part of 30 PrimordialAA videos being periodically rereleased on husng.com.

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r1tony says:

I love vidoes like these.. always learn something from them. Thanks bro and welcome.

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PrimordialAA says:

Thanks alot, this is a 6-part series in reality, labeled:

 

HU SNG from Scratch (Introductory Concepts) (1  /  2)

HU SNG from Scratch (Introductory Concepts) (2  /  2)

HU SNG from Scratch (Intermediate Concepts) (1  /  2)

HU SNG from Scratch (Intermediate Concepts) (2  /  2)

HU SNG from Scratch (Advanced Concepts) (1  /  2)

HU SNG from Scratch (Advanced Concepts) (2  /  2)

 

So there should be alot more to come :)

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r1tony says:

Man that is great bro.. I realize you guys play at a lot higer stakes then 90% of the members here so its good to see these types of videos.   I look forward to the rest of these like christmas ;)

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hhtan87 says:

nice sharkscope use on stars :)

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rumrumrumrum says:

hhtan87: That video is really old (it's from sngacademy.com). I think it was recorded when PS wasn't prohobiting sharkscope.

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PrimordialAA says:

obv rumrumrum hit it on the nose, this video was from before sharkscope was banned, I think it got banned after like my 2nd or 3rd video there... but it's nice that this was the only thing you had to say about the video... ;p

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Jamie says:

Hi,  very very good video and as i'm just starting out at HU i really enjoyed it. I think you explain things spot on in this vid for people like myself.   TY

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REBTgenius says:

This video was very useful.  I can't express how much I love your videos.  You are very clear and use a wide array of teaching different methods, which reflects your skill as an instructor.  I actually took notes based on your slides; it felt like I was in a college auditorium-only the subject matter was more interesting.

Also, your concepts further explain and reinforce what my coach expressed when evaluating my hand histories.  This material is essential to a winning player; I wish I would have known about these concepts a long time ago.  I look forward to watching part two.

Thank you,

Jeffrey (5 stars on this vid)

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PrimordialAA says:

Thanks so much Jeff,

I appreciate the comments, and especially you taking the time to write out an elaborate set of thoughts about the video. Please let me know if there's subjects or video's you'd like to see me cover in the future, and don't hesitate to ask if you'd like explanations on concepts covered in any other video

             -Primo

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REBTgenius says:

Greetings Primo,

I just wanted to express my gratitude for your kinds words as well as the invitation to make suggestions or ask questions about your videos.  You have a very systematic and organized approach to your videos, which I appreciate.  The hard work you put into them cannot be feigned.  All of the instructors on HUSNG have impressed me with their knowledge and professionalism. 

I actually started out primarily with your videos, based on the fact that I lost money playing against you on Pokerstars (more than once).  You had instant credibility based on my personal experience playing you.  Anyway, I look forward to watching more videos, making more comments, and potentially asking questions.

Jeffrey

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jamjam747 says:

This is my first video ive watched since joining a few hours ago..... superb idea in explaining theory first with slide show and then seeing you apply in action....im gonna play a few games and apply....then watch part 2.....

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iyotank says:

My first video, very good, excellent seeds for my empty brain, thanks.

I love slideshows.

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kolonel says:

I hope this is the right place to post this, but i have a question in relation to the video :

HUSNG from scratch part 1 of 2

At the 21:20 mark on the video (A3o vs QTs), you point out that opponent was 4x opening, and you shove over him with A3o.

What sort of range do you put him on here ? Being a turbo game, is it common to be almost flipping for stacks (54% vs 46%) ?

I know this is only the beginner series, but it seems to be outside the lines you mentioned in it (Calling Ranges - OOP).

Thanks.

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qattack says:

First of all, great video. It contained valuable information and I rated it 4 stars. I'm always a little tough on my ratings (actually, 4 stars is "great", so maybe not quite so tough!).

To improve on this type of video, I think it would be beneficial to see charts similar to those from PokerStove, showing Opening and Calling hand ranges, as well as 3-Bet ranges. I realize in HU that you cannot set such strict opening standards and stick to them rigidly, but it would be good to give beginners a specific framework while stressing the fact that in actual play you cannot be so rigid.

Even better would be to highlight the marginal hands and explain basics about when to play them or take them out of the range.

But great video and extremely useful.

Here are some questions/comments I had about specific hands:

21:00 I was a bit surprised at this shove, being so deep. However, I ran this through "Cardrunners EV" (formerly SToxEV) and was even more surprised at the unexploitable shoving range here. I am going to post my observations about that in a separate thread on the forum. At this point, what range (in %) do you think this villain is 4x opening his button? And what edge do you think a beginning and/or intermediate player should be happy with here? I mean, if the decision is only slightly +EV, then perhaps we have more of an advantage waiting for a better spot. Or maybe the fact that the game may end sooner and allow us to start a new one will come into play.

25:00 You 3B AJo and fold to his Allin. What range would you call this Allin with at this stage against this unknown opponent?

30:20 You open AQo and Villain shoves. You say that it's better for him to make a small 3B against a good player, because you won't call with worse and you may make a bluff against him. What reraise size would be good? If he reraises to 225, what is a good player's response? Allin or fold? I'm guessing a good player would not flat call that reraise? However, if he does (and I believe many players, even the "good" ones at these stakes, will flat call), there is now 450 in the pot and 625 behind. This is an extremely awkward stack size being OOP for AQs if it does not hit. I ran the villain's shoving range through CardrunnersEV and these results surprised me also. If you assume he shoving with all pairs and AQ+, you are a slight dog. If you add only AJs and KQs, you are getting slight +EV to call, albeit not enough to overcome the rake. Obviously, if there are any worse hands in his range, you do quite well to call here.

31:00 Villain limps, Hero has Q8s in the BB. Flop Td8d7s. Why don't you bet out here? Are you afraid that board is so wet that he will float and/or raise very often? Are there any types of opponents you would bet this against?

33:45 Villain minraises, you shove with K9s. What is your shoving range here, considering Villain has been minraising a lot?

35:45 You limp 44 here and say that this hand is hard to play postflop. You plan to shove if raised. Is this play specific to these effective stacks? For example, if the effective stacks were larger, you would probably be raising and smaller, you would rather shove yourself? What hand range will you make this limp-shove play with here? Also, how does your opponent affect your decision?

**You state that 3/4 pot is generally a good bet in a limped pot. I see some other instructors making 1/2 pot stabs. How dependent on board texture and position is bet sizing in limped pots? Obviously, if the opponent is playing very fit or fold, then a minbet is sufficient. Are there other situations or opponents you would minbet?

Again "great" video...thanks for all your hard work!

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SH1KARI (not verified) says:

sry...

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