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Ph33roX Leakfinder #4 - $30 Hypers (Mix of Opponents)

Ph33roX reviews play at the $30 hyper level on Full Tilt Poker. The player faces both a random opponent and a regular. Ph33roX talks about taking your entire range into consideration when playing a thinking opponent, and why you should sometimes play smaller pots against unpredictable randoms.

lindridgeben's picture
Great video bro,  keep them

Great video bro, 
keep them coming

Ph33roX's picture
Thanks mate. Will do. 4 more

Thanks mate. Will do. 4 more to go in this series and I'm absoultely going to have another series after this one.

teddybloat's picture
Thanks for taking the time to

Thanks for taking the time to put these out.
i'm pretty new to these games [600 games or so], two things in this video were completely new to me. First checking our entire range in the AJo hand on a 7497 board OOP. makes so much sense, but ive never really considered spots were i should be checking my entire range [mainly due to the fact that i'm grinding a roll on the micros, so haven't needed to think this deeply in general]. would this only be optimal against thinking players / guys we are going to be playing regularly? against weaker players we can be unbalanced and exploitative right? also what is it about the board texture that makes it a good spot to be checking everything, is it because it's paired or 9high and therefore missing a lot of our 3betting range?
the other thing that kinda blew my mind was talk of of a balanced limping range at 6bbs deep! again it makes a lot of sense, but is something i wouldnt dream of doing. it must be hard to remain balanced here though as there are way more hands like 93s than AA. also why is limping eg 93s better than folding: is it so we can induce with our AA, AKs type hands or is it so we can play more hands from the button at 6bb? dont we leave our shoving range a bit light or does it not matter at these stack depths? what's our cut-off for open folding here?
one of the biggest steps up for me in hypers was getting my head around the fact that 10-14bb stack is actually a monster stack with loads of playability, another step up was realising that 8-10bbs had strategic options i hadn't previously considered. i guess i'm going to have to view my 6bbs as deep now too, lol.
sorry if these questions are a bit basic...
 
cheers,
TEDDY

Ph33roX's picture
Hey There. Happy to hear you

Hey There. Happy to hear you got new information from the video.
You're right that that against weaker players we shouldn't be concerned with our overall ranges. On that board texture we are going to want to give up often with our bluffs, and also hands like AJ have showdown value on this board where on other board runouts they probably wouldn't (which might mean we wouldn't want to check it). So this is basically a spot where we have many hands that "want" to check. If we bet our strong hands hands on this board, it would make our checking range very weak, which will allow our opponent to value bet very thin and bluff a lot too (the thinner you can bet for value, the wider can bluff) , and both of those are things that we want to avoid with the majority of our range (air and weak sdv) .
Limping at 6bb is a way to play more hands in the SB compared to a shove or fold strategy. I think it works well both vs strong and weak players. You can be unbalanced vs weak players and limp more trash than monsters (like you said, it's hard to get monsters) and limp slightly more balanced versus regs, although I think a lot of regs are hesitant to shove vs 6bb limps, at least initially (people tend to give JJ+ too much weight in your range). You are also right that limping monsters at 6bb is going to make our shoving range weaker. That's not going to matter vs fish as they normally call too tight. And most regs do not adjust their calling ranges at 6bb and just call nash. But even if I see someone adjusts and start calling off lighter at 6bb, I'm still gonna keep my limping range as I think this is overall a more profitable strategy for us (as it allows us to play profitably with more hands).
 

teddybloat's picture
again, makes so much sense.

again, makes so much sense. i'm already starting to experiment with limping at these depths, just thinking about things like this helps you improve too imo.
look forward to the rest of the series.
 
cheers,
TEDDY

Jack3d's picture
Really nice video :) Just one

Really nice video :)
Just one question - in the first game with hand K8s on flop 447 would you play it the same way (flating his donk bet) if he was donking a lot, lets say  50% or more. In that case bluff raise with our equity would work better or you still would choose to flat? 
Thanks.

Ph33roX's picture
Hey jack3d, I think my std

Hey jack3d,
I think my std would be to flat this even against an agressive donkbettor. I feel like we have too much showdown value be raising with this hand. I would rather raise 68 type hands on this board if I think villian is donking very wide.

evs's picture
great video thanks, 10m  8cQd

great video thanks,
10m  8cQd on 3dJc5c , which board runouts are you thinking are good to bluff?

Ph33roX's picture
Hey evs,I think a board

Hey evs,
I think a board runout like J5326 for example would be very good, because on this board there is not a lot of precieved air in our range and we will be at the very bottom of hour range (even 67 type hands have made a pair). Also if the turn is a 5 or a 3 for example, our opponent will give up with with T9  type hands a lot and we win at showdown.