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OhMySweet666's picture
overcard vs cbet

opponent 85hands

​OR 42 Fold3Bet 100

Cbet flop 100 Turn 50 River -

Aggressione 1,5  Flop 1,38 Turn 2 River 2

I opted for call preflop, because he folds 100 to 3bet. iI prefer 3bet top range and baby K/Q/J

In the flop i opted for fold, but i don't think is right, because He cbets 80% and the flop is very dry

Which is the best line?

If I call and the turn is KQJ, whick is my line?

If I raise and the turn is KQJwhick is my line?

 

[converted_hand][hand_history]IPoker, 10/20 blinds No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
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[b]Hero (BB): 1,232 (61.6 bb)[/b]
[b]SB: 1,768 (88.4 bb)[/b]

[b]Preflop[/b]: Hero is BB with A:heart: T:spade:
[color="red"]SB raises to 40[/color], Hero calls 20

[b]Flop[/b]: (80) 9:heart: 4:club: 2:spade:[color="blue"] (2 players)[/color]
Hero checks, [color="red"]SB bets 60[/color], [color="grey"]Hero folds[/color]

[spoil][b]Results:[/b] 80 pot
Final Board: 9:heart: 4:club: 2:spade: 
Hero mucked A:heart: T:spade: and lost (-40 net)
SB mucked and won 80 (40 net)
[/spoil][/hand_history][/converted_hand]

 

Jepser8's picture
   

 

 

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teddybloat's picture
We shouldnt fold flop   We

We shouldnt fold flop

 

We have two back-door straight draws and are ahead of his bluffs.

Its worth noting that although he cbets 100% he only opens 42% of hands. So 100% of a 42% range is the same as a wide opener cbetting a 50% or so [not exactly the same, but worth getting into the habit of not assuming high cbet = air: you have to consider the range they take to the flop. someone only minraising 88+ and suited broadway for example can cbet a very high % and not be weak].

that said 942r doesnt hit his opening range very hard, we are ahead of his range here and have many good cards. Q,K,J,5,3 all give us gutshots, T and A give us strong top pair. and he checks the turn 50% of the time so we sometimes will get to showdown our Ax against weaker Ax, Kx and Qx which may feel have showdown, and any bluffs he decides to give up on.

x/raising can be ok - certainly better than folding -, but i'd prefer to not use hands that have good showdown /  equity realisation. 

we should never be folding this flop without extreme reads.

 

Jepser8's picture
I tought he had the 85 hand,

I tought he had the 85 hand, I really need more sleep

I am interested to enroll in a short term 'staking only' program or a long term staking combined with coaching program.

teddybloat's picture
i misread the hand myself, we

i misread the hand myself, we dont have two backdoor gutshots at all lol.

but defo dont fold anyway