A Mersenneary Live Show

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Mersenneary does a video with live recorded commentary one-tabling $500 + 6, $350 + 5, and $200 + 3.50 superturbo heads up sngs to talk end-game strategy.  He plays a variety of different opponents and talks about crucial reads that are important to develop beyond HUD numbers.  The video ends with mersenneary getting rewarded by attempting to maximally exploit a big fish at the $350 level.

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Q says:

A8 and Q6 hands are very interesting, but when you say A4s raise - call is close I dont think so. he has to have stable 30% 3bet shove at 20bb level for that to be ~0 ev which is super rare. I wonder why you play without HUD.

Also why would you accept da_professional, he has 3% av roi at 800$ av stake. with 1.5%~ rake you need sick edge to be willing to play him?

 

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mersenneary says:

A few things. First of all, can you point to where the A4s hand is? I see an A3s hand at those stack depths that I say is somewhat close but definitely a fold without serious reads, I would focus on what I said after I said it was somewhat close with the argument for why I think it's a pretty clear fold.

HUD is more information which is never a bad thing, rationally. I just have gotten very used to getting my information organically and processing opening frequency at different stack depths etc, which a HUD doesn't keep you from or anything, but I feel pretty confident I'm not giving up on anything massive by focusing on it without one. There are others would would disagree with me and agree with you, though, so it's certainly a valid point. Using a HUD crashed my system once and because of that I've given it a jail sentence for a while :)

da_pro is a good player who I respect a lot - don't get me wrong. I've run very hot against him this month and have no delusions about long-term domination. That said, at higher stakes, I'll take any slight edge I can get - no sick edge necessary, and there's only about 1% rake. He's breakeven lifetime over 2000 500s and a 1.7% winner over the same amount of 1ks - very good stats (consistent with him being a very good player), but also not stats that are going to make me immediately decline his action and wait for big fish. He's also made a few bad plays against me while tilted/not focused and he's also someone I like personally, so I don't mind giving him action when he wants it (usually it's him sitting me and me accepting).

Thanks for the comments :) Appreciated

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Q says:

yes sorry, i meant A3s. I see.. Hud interesting, did you try HEM hud? It crashes often but never has crashed my system. in 2 years. Also it has specific effective stack data filters which are nice like when effective stack is 6 bb you can filter to show opponent data for stack sizes 4-10bb. It gives better graps of opponent strategy because it can often reveal some unexpected tendencies, like loose agro guys pf tighten up at 8 effective bb stacks or vice versa. I think that information on a screen cant hurt, if anything you can always ignore it. But anyway you seem to be doing fine without HUD so what do I know, but i really think that it can be a great to make some decision which you would otherwise not make , so Id think your roi would be bigger with HUD, especially against players you got big history with.

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System says:

HUD related:

 

I also think that you can do great without HUD, that's because if you're used to play without HUD you're able to make decisions based on what you see, and not based on what  HUD tell you, especially if you're 1 tabling.

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tomo66 says:

i notice that you are calling pretty wide from the BB i would consider Q7 Q6 hands to be a little loose. do you have to be check raising and floating pretty light to make these defends better than folding?

is Q6o a better hand to defend than something like 85s at shallow stacks?

 

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Katipo says:

I noticed you folded 26s OTB when he had 40 chips behind at 15/30. According to NASH, it's a shove for 2BBs. Does NASH assume fold equity for this?

I have to confess that I'd have shoved 26s every time there and without even considering the possibility that it could be wrong. What are your thoughts on this?

 

 

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Q says:

62s is a fold , its a -ev shove against 100% call range. You can use pokerstove to compute this pretty quick.

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mersenneary says:

Sorry I can't find the hand - BB had 70 chips before the blinds were posted? We assume he's calling with any two, in which case it's -EV to jam.

Tomo: My database has suggested that if anything I can afford to call wider. You do need to be able to take away pots when you miss to get full value. 85s probably has better expectation if I were guessing.

 

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Katipo says:

It's not ahead of his range, but I figured the 15 chips already in the pot make up for having 38% equity vs a random range.

EDIT: OK, I did the math and it is indeed nor profitable.

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red0ncul0us says:

Live vidz > your standard ones imo.

plus its fun hearing you call for cards like a results-oriented fish :P

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Boukman says:

We're all human ;-)

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tekn1qu3z says:

Really really enjoyed this video. If possible, I'd like to request another live show video. I know you said you like to gather your thoughts after the match and then make the video but I liked hearing your exact thought process as it happened in real time and it really helped me out. Looking forward to the next video. :)

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ricky10 says:

Mersenneary do you find a lot of players like "TheComeup" at the 350s level? or is this your first one? wow if thats the case i think im gonna move up cuz ive been playing at the 110s level for a while and havent seen a lot of guys this bad that i remember.

Ricky

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pokerbot102 says:

You talk a bit about a Q6 hand where you flop a weak tp and cr shove QTx wet flop to look like a draw.  You then talk about cr'ing small if the board was dry to get played back at or floated.  When would you take a check/call line? vs barrel monkeys and nits?

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