ITRIED2WARNU Video 34 - Leakfinder for DonNew

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In this video ITRIED2WARNU reviews HUSNG.com member "DonNew" in a leakfinder at the $22 +1 level on PokerStars.

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DonNew says:

Hey Itried,

Just finished watching 1 time, awesome video, well worth the wait! 

As i was watching myself play I definetely felt there was a lot of spots were i played suboptimal (missed c-bets, limping when to deep, missed second barreling). 

Also i noticed that I played way to passive against the second guy, and he was pretty much running me over with his aggressive donks. Seems like i too often opt to take the easy way out, instead of playing back and have to face some less standard spots where I have to call off lighter.

I will come back later with some questions when I have my notes more organized.

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ITRIED2WARNU says:

Awesome, glad you enjoyed it.  I sound a little congested in it I think (coming down with a cold, and it was like 6am when I did it). I'm looking forward to your questions...

Brent
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manolo says:

Good video

I think that when you sharkscope your villain you should check his HU stats as well coz general sng stats can be misleading, e.g. first oponent made his profit in mtt sng not hu.

One question:

You said that when he is very active from the button than you open your 3betting %. What hands do you add to your 3betting range? Do you widen your range or start 3betting rather polarized range adding hands from the bottom of your calling range or even below it?

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I actually thought you were gonna give me heat for not 3x raise pre when we are deep, but as I understand it is perfectly fine to 2x throughout the whole match in Turbos even at Pokerstars.

And you didnt like limping as a general rule until we get to around 15-20 bb deep. I sometimes do it to probe for information which I can use later on, when stacks are shallower but I probably have a tendency to start overdo it once I start limping.

At 12:09 our opponent 4x on the button and we have A5o. Our opponents has been limping, 3xing and 4xing randomly from the button up until this point. I 3bet once when he 3xed and he flatted and folded to my c-bet. I folded the A5o to his 4x here because my usual assumption is that the 4xes is his strongest hands (and limp weakest + 3x medium hands).

First of all is this wrong to just assume this as a standard our should i not think the larger his PF raise is, the stronger his hand is?

Second of all given his 3 different PF sizes and the fact that we dont know what they mean yet, what is the worst hand I can flat his 4x with here? 

At around 20:00 I 2x raise AKo on the button, get flatted. Flop comes AK4r. I elect to check back here partly to not c-bet 100% and partly to let him pick up a hand, and since the board is not too wet i feel comfortable doing so. But it seems you prefer a c-bet in this situation. Is this only because our opponent was very passive OOP or is this something we should be doing against most types of opponents? 

At around 23:40 I 2x raise A7o to 60. villain 3bets small to 150 with 880 effective left behind. Again what is the worst hand I can flat with here, given our villains low 3bet% so far?

at 30:00 our opponent min raises to 100 on the button, we have 88 and there is 1130 left effective. You say a jam is good here but we could also 3bet to like 300. If we 3bet and villain flats us there would be 600 in the pot and 930 left. At these awkward sizes are we c-betting 100% or are we only c-betting dry boards? what size should we choose (1/2, 2/3)? are we willing to get it in with 3 overcards? I know this is a difficult question without a specific board but I have a lot of trouble in those spots.

At 42:09 our opponent limps the button, we have 44. Here you say we should attack his limp since he has been folding to all of our prior limp attacks. If i attack his limp and he jams all-in, this is a snap-call at 27 bb deep even though he hasn't 4bet before right?

In the hand i do check back, flop comes K64cc -- we lead 50 into 100 -- villain raises to 100 -- I click back rr to 150 -- Villain flats -- Turn is a K (400 in the pot now, 1130 left effective). Here you say we need to protect our hand on the turn against Kx hands. Is this in general or based upon our somewhat passive opponent? 

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At 46:40 1 hand of the second match. Villain donks 60 into 80 after calling my min raise on a flop of 743hh, you say you prefer to raise him here since alot of fish at lower stakes donks alot of mid pair + drawy hands. If we raise him here and he calls, are we second barreling here readless and if so on which turn cards? In the video you just say that we should be careful not to spew, and carefully analyze the turn card and how it changes board texture and that our play here is very opponent dependent, but here we dont have reads on our opponent since its the 1 hand of the match.

At 49:00 I pick up, QQ, KK and AT consecutively. I 3bet the QQ OOP, and then you say I should also 3bet my AT and not be affected by the fact that I just 3bet two hands ago. Are there no merits.

At 58:00 Villain donks 90 into 120 on A52hh, and we have JJ. Villain has been donking alot so far. I opt to flat here, but you say we could also raise here. If we do raise here and villain flats, should we barrel the turned T or should we check back?

At 1:03:41 Villain again donks 90 into 120 on T35dd, we have T7 and you say we could raise. However the last time he donked we went to showdown with JJ and he had a crappy hand like 63, which makes him less likely to be donking now with a crappy hand. Given this, if we raise his donk here are we calling if he jams-allin over our raise?

 

Thats all the questions I have, thanks for the great leakfinder! I found alot of leaks that I can start working and Im looking forward to implement some of the tips you gave in my game going forward. 

 

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ITRIED2WARNU says:

 

Thanks manolo, I agree that it is good to sort/filter stats by HU only - I'm usually just too lazy to go in and do it.  :)  Something I will work on, especially when I am making a video here.

You said that when he is very active from the button than you open your 3betting %. What hands do you add to your 3betting range? Do you widen your range or start 3betting rather polarized range adding hands from the bottom of your calling range or even below it?

Yes, I would open it up to hands like 98, 910, J10 type hands as well.  The range isn't as important as the frequency in which you do it though, and even more important is your opponents reaction or tendencies versus your 3bet %.

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Thanks DonNew, your comments here are very well thought out and the people who treat these videos, concepts, and ideas in a similar fashion are going to be the most successful in the long run.  I challenge you to continue the same approach on every video you watch when something isn't clear or you may not have completely understood it.  So good job and keep up the good work!  I know I can speak for the other coaches when I say, we love this type of response!!

I actually thought you were gonna give me heat for not 3x raise pre when we are deep, but as I understand it is perfectly fine to 2x throughout the whole match in Turbos even at Pokerstars.

I think its fine to 3x at 10-20 but beyond that you want to usually always min raise (depending on effective stacks of course).

At 12:09 our opponent 4x on the button and we have A5o. Our opponents has been limping, 3xing and 4xing randomly from the button up until this point. I 3bet once when he 3xed and he flatted and folded to my c-bet. I folded the A5o to his 4x here because my usual assumption is that the 4xes is his strongest hands (and limp weakest + 3x medium hands). First of all is this wrong to just assume this as a standard our should i not think the larger his PF raise is, the stronger his hand is?

I wouldn't say that its necessarily "wrong" but it probably is less accurate on an individual basis.  Some players will 4x with hands they don't want to go to a flop with, hands that they just want to win the blinds with preflop - which isn't always the stronger part of their range.  Without having some type of showdown or information to support that thought I would stay away from it.  That way we don't fold hands like this where we could certainly have the best hand preflop.  A good way to "test" the 3x versus 4x strength is 3betting them at each size and seeing which they call with and which they fold with.

Second of all given his 3 different PF sizes and the fact that we dont know what they mean yet, what is the worst hand I can flat his 4x with here? 

This early on we can still flat a 4x pretty wide, at 10-20 my flatting range wouldn't change much to a 4x versus a 3x or min raise to be honest.  But as blinds go up (if he continues 3x/4x) it would definitely make a difference.  Example:  If stacks are 28bb deep, we don't want to be flatting hands like 56s because they won't play as well postflop being so short.

At around 20:00 I 2x raise AKo on the button, get flatted. Flop comes AK4r. I elect to check back here partly to not c-bet 100% and partly to let him pick up a hand, and since the board is not too wet i feel comfortable doing so. But it seems you prefer a c-bet in this situation. Is this only because our opponent was very passive OOP or is this something we should be doing against most types of opponents? 

I prefer cbetting here against the majority of players.  Against someone who isn't paying attention to your hand strength when cbetting versus checking back (will he notice you are checking back top two, etc).  I think against the players who aren't paying attention it is okay.  The players who do pay attention, it is best to cbet, that way we aren't letting them pick up on anything about our tendencies and ranges.

At around 23:40 I 2x raise A7o to 60. villain 3bets small to 150 with 880 effective left behind. Again what is the worst hand I can flat with here, given our villains low 3bet% so far?

It's pretty tough to justify a bunch of hands that can fold to this small of a re-raise at these stacks.  Generally stick with hands that play well postflop or have an ability to flop top pair well. 

at 30:00 our opponent min raises to 100 on the button, we have 88 and there is 1130 left effective. You say a jam is good here but we could also 3bet to like 300. If we 3bet and villain flats us there would be 600 in the pot and 930 left. At these awkward sizes are we c-betting 100% or are we only c-betting dry boards? what size should we choose (1/2, 2/3)? are we willing to get it in with 3 overcards? I know this is a difficult question without a specific board but I have a lot of trouble in those spots.

I would cbet on boards that I think would be unlikely to hit his flatting range.  (A high boards are fine, but avoid 10JQ type stuff)  I would use a cbet size of right around 1/2 pot as its pretty much going to be a case where he jams or folds, I don't see him flatting much on a flop at this stack size.  Betting closer to 1/2 than 2/3 will save you chips if you are planning on bet/folding some flops.

At 42:09 our opponent limps the button, we have 44. Here you say we should attack his limp since he has been folding to all of our prior limp attacks. If i attack his limp and he jams all-in, this is a snap-call at 27 bb deep even though he hasn't 4bet before right?

Assuming we raise to something between 150-200, yes.  It's not the greatest spot in the world when he limp re-raises/jams either, but with his limping frequency I'm going to attack it and not let him see cheap flops against me when I hold a pair preflop.

In the hand i do check back, flop comes K64cc -- we lead 50 into 100 -- villain raises to 100 -- I click back rr to 150 -- Villain flats -- Turn is a K (400 in the pot now, 1130 left effective). Here you say we need to protect our hand on the turn against Kx hands. Is this in general or based upon our somewhat passive opponent? 

It becomes important to bet the turn since he raised on the flop.  He is usually going to have Kx a higher % and as a result we should be betting as he's going to jam when he does have it.  He can also check back with trips after you check figuring you don't have much (only one K left in the deck).

At 46:40 1 hand of the second match. Villain donks 60 into 80 after calling my min raise on a flop of 743hh, you say you prefer to raise him here since alot of fish at lower stakes donks alot of mid pair + drawy hands. If we raise him here and he calls, are we second barreling here readless and if so on which turn cards? In the video you just say that we should be careful not to spew, and carefully analyze the turn card and how it changes board texture and that our play here is very opponent dependent, but here we dont have reads on our opponent since its the 1 hand of the match.

I played a match very similar to this situation just last night, where a villain donked a lot of flops very frequently.  It's important that you don't always let them get away with it, and I think the sooner you try to attack it the better.  This way they will be less likely to do it later on, and we can develop some type of read or range that they are donking into us with.  I would be second barreling the turn cards that aren't a 7,4,3,5,6, or heart.  An offsuit A, K, Q, etc would be great turns to barrel.

At 49:00 I pick up, QQ, KK and AT consecutively. I 3bet the QQ OOP, and then you say I should also 3bet my AT and not be affected by the fact that I just 3bet two hands ago. Are there no merits.

I might not have explained this very well in the video, but yes we should definitely be 3betting AT there.  In fact, we can probably expect villain to even play back in that spot as we have been so aggressive there, so I would be 3bet/calling a jam.  

At 58:00 Villain donks 90 into 120 on A52hh, and we have JJ. Villain has been donking alot so far. I opt to flat here, but you say we could also raise here. If we do raise here and villain flats, should we barrel the turned T or should we check back?

Yes, the turn 10x isn't a bad card at all to barrel as long as it doesn't complete a flush possibility.  Any card lower than a J that doesn't pair the board, or bring a flush poss would be a good card to bet besides the obvious 3 or 4.

At 1:03:41 Villain again donks 90 into 120 on T35dd, we have T7 and you say we could raise. However the last time he donked we went to showdown with JJ and he had a crappy hand like 63, which makes him less likely to be donking now with a crappy hand. Given this, if we raise his donk here are we calling if he jams-allin over our raise?

Yes, this would still be perfectly fine to be calling off with.  His donking range was extremely wide and when you are beat it's pretty much just a cooler.  By flatting we give him a card without charging him when we figure to have the best hand.  Some of these spots may seem marginal, but it is important that you charge them and also not let them get away with constantly donking flops when we have the lead.

Brent
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DonNew says:

Thanks for the great answers! Gave me a lot to think about and work on. 

BTW I will definetely try to approach future videos I watch with the same determination to learn, It is more motivating when its your own game being reviewed, but I am sure Í can extract the same amount of new information out of other videos if I really try.

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ITRIED2WARNU says:

No problem Don, I'm glad you enjoyed the video and benefited from the advice and answers.  Best of luck!

Brent
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