Heads up 6-7bb efective stacks

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hi what do you guys think about hands like J4s T5s T4s 95s 43s i know it is not best possible strategy against many opponents to start push folding at these depths, and its  still good to limp alot against most opponents but where do you draw the line. for example... can someone confirm that J4s with exactly 7bb is better to shove against loose passive opponent? or can someone confirm that J4s with 7bb plays better as shove against reg who will call close to nash and raise all in with Q9+.. what about J4s 7bb readless? i feel like better regs at my games do not shove these hands into me at 7bb..

If someone who offers coaching will know  well how should our strategy loooklike at these dephts against different opponents. contact me pls..

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You should be using Nash at

You should be using Nash at those depths

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:)

Quess i bought pack of shit from coffeeyay then..heh..   that is not true dan you defenetly dont want to use nash at those depths.. you are propably giving advice for hyper turbo hu..in hypers that is ok i quess(not sure).. i play spins and i stick with adam "coffeeyay" sobolewski's strategy where full push fold starts below 6bb against some opponents even 5bb and below

i should propably contact adam and ask how much he takes for few hours :)

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You have to balance your big

You have to balance your big pairs somehow, so some limping is ok. But OJ is always valid, assuming it's a nash shove, if villain is jamming over your limps. And you shouldn't try to limp everything, that's way too much.

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Yeah sorry i was on about

Yeah sorry i was on about Hypers but i do agree that tendency now is to limp. This does work effectively but i think it can be villain specific.

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I'd limp all those hand

I'd limp all those hand read-less, except maybe J4s which is extremely close 7bb (probably a shove, but a limp 7.5bb, but not a big deal either way). Given reads of passiveness you can limp more often, given reads of aggression shove :) Fine vs regs too, unless they're very aggressive vs limps at which point you can jam all these hands.

Hypers 6-7bb = HU spins 6-7bb minus tiny differences in population tendencies... no reason our strategy should be all that different lol.