Hi Cog

Nice video and hopefully we see some more.

There's one hand that interests me and i'd appreciate a little more of your thought process on it. It was a re-bluff with k3os in game 2. I'm not sure on your reasons here. If the biggest part of his range is 10x (or complete air), should we not just call if we have good showdown value with king high? I think you need to fold out some better hands here to make this re-bluff +ev like ax or better kings but i can't see him having a lot of those hands as he just checked behind on your button limp. Maybe forcing out a lucky 6 on the river is enough to make this +ev? i'm not sure........

So i'm a little lost and would like to hear a little more on the hand. It was an interesting style against this guy and seemed to work perfect so i got a lot out of that video in general. TIA for any feedback on that hand and gl. :)

Hey Dean :)

I'm really glad you enjoyed the video, it was my first atttempt, so I've been nervous about it's reception.

You are on the right track with this hand. Just as you said, I put him on the T or even perhaps the 8 (or even air) and I fully expected him to bluff the river when he missed.

I could have played the hand for showdown value, but wanted the extra insurance of making him fold in case he had the 6, or the k (less likely). The important thing about but bluffing is that the bluff is believable. I was trying to represent the 9, and think the turn bet and the river reraise were a believable sequence, which would fold him out unless I'd drastically mis-read his hand.

Cheers

Paul

Never seen video where autor limps all his buttons :) Interesting approach. Against this villain, who is not very agressive on preflop, but crazy after flop, it looks very effective to let him bluff with overbets.

Hey WBR,

That's one of the reasons I wanted to make videos, to show that different styles can also be effective. I play that style against all opponents! I know it's counter to the normal successful style but I think it has certain advantages (and disadvantages).

Firstly, it's hard for the villain to put you on a hand.

Secondly, because they are doing all the running, it's easier to put them on hands

Thirdly, opponents adapt to the constant raising and start floating you.

Fourthly, when you raise pre-flop you are actually taking time out of the game. The higher the blinds, the less time you have to wait for a good hand. The more you raise pre-flop, the less time you have. I think more time in the game favors the better player, which is why I limp so much.

Fifthly, when the blinds get high, I tend to start making more preflop raises and after 40 minutes of limping the opponents fold to a lot more of these than if I'd been raising since hand one.

I do raise with premium hands to give them some protection (AA KK QQ) and mix that in with very occasional junk raises. But I certainly limp over 90% of my hands

Of course this style has it's disadvantages and I'm not recommending it to everyone, but keep in mind it is certainly valid. I hope you watch the next video I make to see more of it.

Cheers

Paul

yes very interesting approach. u have quite a charming personality if i may say. good hand reading too. if only it were easier to find these kinds of donks at the 115$ stake.

i limp 100% of hands only vs hyper aggro opponents. otherwise im in the middle between ur approach and the standard 3x raise approach. Instead of either of those, I min raise almost every button that i play until blinds are at 50/100 then i'll limp more. i love the min raise tho, i keep the initiative, i lose less on my steals, i build up the pot if i hit big, i protect my big pairs, and i give myself a chance to win the pot uncontested without going to the flop and letting my opponent catch a pair with a random junk hand.

Hey Ice :)

I think that's the first time I've ever been called charming.. I'm stoked!

The min raise is a great approach, I find guys that play your style amongst the hardest to deal with. It seems that guys that have developed that style are nearly always solid players, so perhaps it's a combination of the style being good and the players that have worked out that style also being good.

I have to agree that guy was shocking, even at the 50's we don't get many like that....sadly!

Very nice video, it's good to see some other playing style. But I'd like to see if you play the same against passive/tight/whatever opponents or you start playing more aggro. Hope, we'll see some other videos from you later. ;-)

I checked your SS and it's very impressive, looks like you style works perfectly for you. I'm crazy monkey and I like to bet/bet/bet but sill, I think I learned a lot from this one.

hey, excellent video. it's interesting to see such a different and successful approach to the game.  i used to either min-raise or fold until 25/50 blinds, but i experimented mixing it up with limping, and i'm pretty happy about it. and against (the very few) tight players who fold to min-raising, i get to play a lot more in position. 

Cog,

We have played together quite a bit, more then I would like I might add. ;) As I am sure you are aware we have the same style. I wanted to put in a good word for the style and I hope they adopt you as a teacher as my record is also proof that this style is far better then most others I seen.

If I may I would like to add a couple more advantages to this style

1) By limping often against weak players. You are forcing them to play marginal hands out of position and as we know they cant fold squat when they hit. Its a sort of reverse implied odds. Yes they may win a few small pots for the blinds when you miss but they lose the big pots when they have the worst of it and are out of position.

2) Unlike some I prefer the tight image it portrays. Against higher quality opponents it gives your bluffs far more credibility then those trying to give off the loose aggressive image.

See you at the tables or preferably as a obv. in the chat box.

Dustin,   Holddunuts  (Full Tilt)

I think expecting this guy to fold any pair to the rebluff with K3 is extremely optimistic.

However, it's still a good spot to rebluff IMO, because you can be sure he's bluffing way more often than he should be, and it would *really* suck to just call and have him show up with a better Kx or even Ax, both of which he's almost certain to fold, even though there's no real difference between Ax and bottom pair.

But yeah, Tx is his most likely hand by far there.

Very nice video.  I practically *never* limp, but your overall strategy appears to be far better than mine against massive blufftards like this one, so after watching, I just may have to give it a shot when I suspect I'm up against one of them.

:)

I rated this video 5 Stars.

There were many interesting situations. I prefer more in-depth explanations, but the commentary was still excellent and a lot of these situations probably could not be explained well in 500 words or less.

I probably just need to keep watching your videos to understand more fully. Fortunately, you have plenty of videos!

Your style and presentation are my favorite of any of the coaches.

A couple of questions:

Your opponent keeps raising you on the flop, mostly small raises causing you to fold. You state that you like the fact that he keeps raising you, because when you do have a hand you can trap him. But how do you know that he won't give up after you do end up playing back at him, therefore denying you value? Is that just what these kinds of players do?

@7:45 A9o. The flop comes AJ5. Villain insta-overbets 270 into 60. You insta-shove. Does your timing matter here? It seems to me that insta-shoving would fold out all worse hands. Is there any benefit to waiting a few seconds to raise, or does this quick shove actually look bluffier to him or get him to act so fast that doesn't stop to think?