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Feel free to ask any questions about any of the live play videos from the pack. When referencing specific hands please mention the timestamp and video in question.

I'm sure in the 2 hours of content some may find certain statements they disagree with or believe to be incorrect, feel free to brings these up. My game has developed a bit since I made this package and I may now be able to bring a fresh or better insight into some particular spots.

 

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Video 9

02:57 you state that you're going to fire turn and most rivers. What rivers are bad to fire there? I assume it's mostly 7x and 6x?

09:38 you MR ~13bbd. In what situations would you consider open folding that? I'm constantly in these kind of positions 8-15ish bb deep with low Kx offsuit (openshipping suited low Kx), Qx type of hands that I can't MR/call with, but also folding them looks so weak.

20:34 you debate limping 95o under 8bb-s. I think you miscalculated the effective stacks there and that was a mistake.

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2;57 id def think a ship on

2;57

id def think a ship on any card ten or greater is gonna be best, maybe going slightly smaller if we hit a T, 5 or Q (to get value). I'm not a big fan of firing a paired card (except mybe a paired 9 but its close), and i think i would check back a 2,3 or4.

9:38

to be honest i rarely open fold Qx, since you are basically always going to need a minraise fold range in that spot and q rags and krags are obv going to be your first candidates for your minraise fold range. I know what you mean though, having a hand that is just above the nash threshold can be a bit confusing in spots where you think open fold is too weak of a play,  just minraise fold your balls off with these hands (the strong ones anyway, obv rags weak enough to justify open folding is another question). 

20:34

the consideration was not a mistake if that's what you're asking, there are no set rules to poker, and there are plenty of spots where I will limp 9bb or less (usually with open fold trash against weak fish, or stuff just on the nash threshold that i think i can play more profitably for a limp vs opponent)

 

 

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Thank you for clearing these

Thank you for clearing these spots up for me. I really feel more confident with K and Q rags now :=).

 

Video 8

17:58 - Just to clarify, would you be calling the 3rd barrel with your K-high there on 7c river? Also, is it safe to assume that Ax also makes up a small part of his range because our villain is a reg and would mostly be openshipping A2-7ish type of hands?

 

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^yup, in that spot when im

^yup, in that spot when im calling with such a weak hand because i think he's bluffing i definately wont be folding to a river shove (to be honest though it's super rare that you will have justification to call 3 streets with k high).  villain open shoving weak aces is a good assumption to make, but I wouldn't discount that from his range completely as some regs think they may be able to induce in that spot.

 

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In these spots as in almost

In these spots as in almost all of the live play videos, no parameters(%'s) are given just generalities like: villian is aggro post flop : flop and turn. Your hud doesnt show any numbers. What % of the time will you float w/ Kx here to an aggro villian on flop and turn vs what % villians freq. its makes it virtually impossible to replicate unless complete parameters are given.

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Tips about multitabling

Hi Chad,

very good videos! Can you give some tips about how to multitable, I found I lost the gameflow if open 2+ tables.

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video 8

at 9:30, you river top pair and simply call villian's lead. Do you think there is any value in raising. Especially in lower stakes(15s) I see players playing this as a default line a lot (c/c flop, lead river when we check back) with a very wide range. Given that we know nearly nothing about his play style it is very possible he has an Ace, or a 2/4 trying to bluff us out that sighs and calls the river. Against a random fish at lower stakes I think we may be missing out on value by not raising since he can be super wide and is rarely folding after commiting so many chips.

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@vzhong, http://www.husng.com

@vzhong, http://www.husng.com/content/improving-non-strategy-skills

 

@ibavly, you're right I think a raise on the river there would have been better, those spots I have previously been nittier with raising for thin value because I was used to turbos with deeper effective stacks where getting 3bet would be an issue or we would not get a crying call from opponent as much, but in genereal with strong top pairs  I think there is value in putting in raises with strong top pairs vs river probes (river probe=opponent bet river oop after turn goes check check when you cbet).

 

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video 8

1:26, 2:08, i see  you 3 bet jam preflop @15xbb with (K,J) but flat call villain's 3xbb raise preflop with (J,To) @19xbb. The only reason I can see you taking different approach with these two hands are  the stack to pot ratio. I think flat with (K,Jo) with that stack size is a +ev move and easy to play post flop, what do u think?

12:47 you 3 bet jam with (A,Qo) preflop, is it the best way to play this hand?  is villain capable of calling light in this situation so you make such the move? because I would put up a raise to 130 and if I know villain's range, I would jam tons flop. I feel you might just play (A,Qo) too fast,

also, I see your like to do underbet in a lot of spot. like raising preflop, and c-bet 30 into 80 dollars pot? I see your something c-bet with half pot or c-bet less than 1/2 pot. Are your trying to balance your range or control the pot size against certain villain or unknown as well?? are there any other reasons behind it?

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Hey Chadders, I noticed you

Hey Chadders, I noticed you didn't use any other software aside from PT3 when playing. When you're multi tabling 2-4 tables on your own do you use any software to help you to register for games? If not do you recommend any? (You can't seem to register for empty lobbies only for HUSNG on TableNinja)

 

Also I know you mentioned we're basically always minraising OTB. However at the low stakes such as 7s, 15s and 30s where there are a lot more weaker players - in that case would you ever consider using 2.5x or 3x open-raise size with the strongest part of our range readless? 

 

Lastly, somewhat an unrelated question to the live videos but I wanted to get your opinion on it: how relevant is reading Bobbo's Bible by BobboFitos and Memoirs of Aejones to HUSNG hypers? I could always just read the two anyway and judge for myself however I don't want to cement or end up applying concepts that is a mistake in HUSNG hypers.

 

Thanks man!!!