Free Video - Katipo Heads Up Sit and Go Leakfinder Part 2 of 2
February 24, 2011 - 02:40
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Katipo (formerly known as Chessica and Chipleader) continues to review member lzystar's play in the small stakes euro buyin games on PokerStars. The structure is more gradual than most PokerStars heads up sit and go structures, with the addition of 20-40, 30-60 and 40-80 blinds levels.
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Katipo says:
Hi everyone,
I just skimmed through the video and wanted to make some quick notes.
- I say the 9To flop call is too loose but what I meant is that it's too loose if he's only calling the cbet for showdown value - it's not too loose if he raises that flop or has plans for later streets if he misses
- his raises seemed kind of random and not necessarily tight (T7o for instance) - I should have mentioned this and also noted that it suggests his limping range includes more high cards than expected (unfortunately this information came late)
- when I mention I'd even fold a 9, I'm exaggerating a bit. I would call with good 9s but like everything in poker, it depends on opponents
- misspoke about it being FTP because I thought PS didn't have 20/40 and just said FTP by habit
- for some inexplicable reason, I thought 90 into 120 was more than 3/4 pot! :D
- when Izystar had 84o in the second part, I meant to say he had middle pair instead of bottom pair
- I was correct when I said that winning 40% vs a 2x pot river overbet is breakeven
- against very aggressive opponents postflop, it can be correct to check-back bottom pair in limped pots for pot control and to get value out of his bluffs if you still don't think he's loose enough that you can call a raise (it's a rare type of opponent)
- he seemed to bet 4-flush boards quite often and I'm really curious what he had
- in the game theory tangent, I meant to say to raise with the top 16% of the folding range
- For the AT hand, I talked about even weaker players understanding not to reraise when it's very easy to get stacks in with big hands and there is a bluffing range. I was referring to Izzystar's opponent being in a situation where he certainly wouldn't make big moves (not that he was too wild before that). I wasn't trying to insult Izzystar! :)
This is my first leakfinder type video so any feedback is greatly appreciated. There was more rambling/confusion then I'd have liked but it's surprisingly hard to talk a lot and analyze new situations from a different perspective at the same time (especially for such a long time). I have a new appeciation for the other coaches that have done leakfinders and I'm considering watching student's videos and writing key notes before actually making the video and doing the leakfinder. This would help me express myself more concisely and clearly while also keeping to everything I need to cover. Despite the length, there was still much I'd have liked to add. It would have been better for me to add more comments on specific spots while skipping mostly impractical game theory discussions.
Finally, keep in mind that I'm not the ultimate authority in poker. Good players can disagree in many spots and poker is extremely situational. Don't be afraid to challenege my arguments or to provide alternate lines. Discussion is welcome and will only help all of us grow. Thanks!
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lzystar says:
Firstly thanks for doing this, i felt i got alot out of it. I loved how dry it was lol. "WHY, JUST WHY" when i was betting big with cbets. The reason i did that is cause at these stakes people just dont like to fold unless you bet bigger. However watching the video i see that it really would be better to bet smaller cause of how much he does fold.
I do get the thing about how passive i am in limped pots, its something ive noticed myself and i think im uncomfortable playing back at them cause people dont like to fold so it sometimes feels like waiting till i have something is better, but then thats transparent. Its definatly something i will be working on.
I do think its beneficial to compress my notes, but ive found having alot there to read keeps my attention on the game so i just write what i see down.
I think the thing about thinking about my own image is important, so thanks for pointing that out. Even tho i dont think its that important at these stakes, i dont want to be at these stakes so its definatly important :) .
I hope people enjoy my little jesus christ <3 you image, i hoped it would annoy people, but it just seems to make them happy!
Thanks!
Martin
REBTgenius says:
Greetings,
I want to thank both of you for making this very useful video. As a regular player of the Euro microstakes, I found this video very useful as I face many villains w/ the same basic tendencies. Next, this new structure (for turbos) has spread to all limits in the Euro HUSNG's. It will be interesting to see if this new structure replaces the old one for all the turbos.
Comments for Chipleader: this was a very high caliber video and I extracted a lot of benefit. I liked your asides (such as the discussion about folding too much to c-bets and the game theory perspective on optimal percentages) as they bolstered your more general points. You weren't rambling and you certainly weren't boring. I think your mouth became a little bit dry towards the end of the video, but I can't fault you for that! You simply were supplying me with a massive amount of valuable information. You seemed very enthusiastic, energetic, and genuinely interested in helping the player improve his game. It's hard to feign a genuine love for the game and I think it's one important aspect of making good videos.
A few comments for Martin: I enjoyed your video and think it helped clarify and reinforce some issues I'm having with my own game. One major leak that I've seen amongst many players is not taking initiative in betting, especially on dry flops. I know Skates has a couple of video devoted to flop textures. And I think Cog Dissonance routinely reinforces the value of betting at these flops until villain gives you a reason not to bet.
You have at least two issues that I struggle with: I think I go overboard with taking detailed notes to the point they lose their value. Quality is more important than quantity. Plus, in the turbo format you only have so much time to re-read your notes and integrate all of that information if you should face villain again. Next, I find that taking notes interrupts game flow. I'm a huge offender and I'm trying to work out strategies for taking better notes. It might be interesting if a coach made a video that dealt specifically w/ taking efficient but useful notes. The other issue is potential timing tells. There were several points where an adept opponent might unveil your hand strength based on how long it took you to act.
To reiterate, I appreciate this video very much and think it constitutes an excellent addition to the library (even if it's a free video).
Jeffrey
lzystar says:
Yea i definatly have timing tells in the video lol, its something that ive made sure doesnt happen now and its a pretty simple thing to fix which is nice. On the notes, ill be honest, i just dont know how to write good notes. Ive been thinking of having a set format where i can paste in the notebox at the start and stick to it. Was thinking having headers with playertype, betting patterns and interesting hands or something. Thats just an idea (and clearly a very rough one) but i think having criteria to fill in may stop you from going off on a tangent. Since ive been really trying to play alot (ive been off the past 3 days) ive played 100 games with an roi of 14% exactly on ev so the games are pretty soft, as you have seen i play pretty bad and can beat them.
Something i think is really important at these stakes is knowing how to play in limped pots, im trying to look for some resource on the site but i cant seem to find anything(im probily blind). If you see me at the tables say hi!
Martin
IB_Fishing says:
Hey Martin here is my note taking format. I typed it in Word and I just copy and paste at the begining of each match. Hope it helps. Opponent Type describes opponent (loose-passive, loose-aggressive, tight-passive, tight aggressive or maniac. Open is used to inform me of opponents open raise size (limp, 2x, 3x, 4x etc...) You will most likely understand the rest. Any general notes that don't fit in one of the pre-flop or post flop categories goes before Opponent Type.
Opponent Type
Pre-Flop
Open
3bet
Post Flop
C-bet
2nd Bar
Check Raise
Lead
Donk
Paul
IB_Fishing
Good note taking system, bad application system lol