Exploitive Play by mjw006

April 8, 2011 - 01:41

In this $22 + 1 level video, mjw006 plays two opponents and talks about why it is important to move away from a straightforward strategy and play more exploitive. He also discusses open raise sizing and adjustments in the late game that should help you maximize your edge against tighter opponents.
(14 votes)

about3fiddy says:
Very good video mjw006. Hopes it helps me crushing the 22$.
10:40 - 98o, facing a small 3bet. You need to call 60 into a pot of 180. 44bb deep, isn't there enough rome to manoeuvre postflop even if this is Villians first 3bet in 9 orbits?
37:15 - J2o on A34ss. Villain ch-raise you for the 3rd time in the match (if I remember correctly). You call - is you intention to fold to a turn bet? If yes, don't you think he 2barrels pretty often here? He checks, and you bet 275 into 700. What is the idea behind the small sizing? On this drawy board, it seems like we very often gets called except by air.
40:00 - 87s. You are debating whether a call is the right decision here. You need to call 390 into a pot 980, so you need ≈40% equity. If he is jamming 26,1% (22+, A2s, K9s+, QTs+, J10s+, A2o+, KTo+, QJo), you have 40,385% equity (cEV ≈5T$+) . If he is jamming 50% (22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J7s+, T7s, 97s+, 87s, A2o+, K2o+, Q6o+, J8o+, T8o, 98o) it only goes up to 41,081% (cEV ≈12,5T$+). When watching the video I couldn't believe you meant that it was a bad call, but it is a lot closer then what I thought. But it seems pretty close until he shoves a NASH equilibrium range, which there is no indication of at this point. So maybe the low variance rute is the better option this specific spot.
Throughout the video you call pretty wide OOP (Q5s, 87o, 97o, 65s, 97o) in the 40-75bb range. Is this part of the overall strategy to beat these players, or is it something I should avoid if I'm still having problems postflop? Another thing I notice in the video is that you cbet, ch-raise and bluffbet fairly small. Do you think Villians fold% is somewhat steady no matter the size, and can you draw a line between this strategy and the Optimizing Growth article Skates wrote?
Once again, great video!
happy says:
@ 14:xx you say jamming A7 is standard, whats the reasoning jamming Ax at 20-30 BB ?
mjw006 says:
Hey man, glad you liked the vid... Seems some people werent so happy given the rating but w/e :(
10:40 - 98o, facing a small 3bet. You need to call 60 into a pot of 180. 44bb deep, isn't there enough rome to manoeuvre postflop even if this is Villians first 3bet in 9 orbits?
I just felt his range was so nutted in this spot it was going to be very hard to maneouvre vs such a strong range post even when we do get a piece. He had been so damn nitty and it was his first 3bet + his sizing made me suspicious. Just an in-game thing where I really felt his range was super strong and even if 89o isn't that bad a hand to be peeling against his strong rsange I think we can pass that spot in order to continue to abuse other tendancies. When we see so much exploitable stuff in someones games its never the best idea to take a super marginal potentially tricky spot.
37:15 - J2o on A34ss. Villain ch-raise you for the 3rd time in the match (if I remember correctly). You call - is you intention to fold to a turn bet? If yes, don't you think he 2barrels pretty often here? He checks, and you bet 275 into 700. What is the idea behind the small sizing? On this drawy board, it seems like we very often gets called except by air.
I don't think he barrels often there. He seemed really one-dimensional and generally that type of player will bluff on one street. It's very hard for him to have anything there (ie. hes repping nothing), so I felt I could peel and evaluate (and also had a gutter just in case). I wouldn't jump to conclusions that I'm necessarily folding turn either but that would depend on quite a lot of things - timing, sizing mostly. Once he checks I think it's to either give up or c/shove so small bet is best because we have a very obv fold to a jam or we take it down. Bo point putting out any more than I did to achieve same thing, fwiw it will rarely induce because my bet is quite scary there.
40:00 - 87s. You are debating whether a call is the right decision here. You need to call 390 into a pot 980, so you need ≈40% equity. If he is jamming 26,1% (22+, A2s, K9s+, QTs+, J10s+, A2o+, KTo+, QJo), you have 40,385% equity (cEV ≈5T$+) . If he is jamming 50% (22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J7s+, T7s, 97s+, 87s, A2o+, K2o+, Q6o+, J8o+, T8o, 98o) it only goes up to 41,081% (cEV ≈12,5T$+). When watching the video I couldn't believe you meant that it was a bad call, but it is a lot closer then what I thought. But it seems pretty close until he shoves a NASH equilibrium range, which there is no indication of at this point. So maybe the low variance rute is the better option this specific spot.
Yeah agree with most of it. Tbh I just felt he was shoving too tight and there were just so many other ways I could get his chips than making a marginal call. At the end of the day it was probably slightly +ev so I can't complain, but it was close and given how he was playing I wasn't in love with it.
Throughout the video you call pretty wide OOP (Q5s, 87o, 97o, 65s, 97o) in the 40-75bb range. Is this part of the overall strategy to beat these players, or is it something I should avoid if I'm still having problems postflop?
People generally suck at poker. I like to call wide oop because I think I can mostly outplay people postflop. Furthermore, in the vid we had pretty nitty villains so I like to try and abuse that as best as possible and put them in as many tough spots as possile. Not sure exactly how to answer the question because it's really std for me really. You have to have a leading range/check-raising range/floating range etc etc and try things out, by calling wider preflop it allows you to do this. I don't go crazy or anything (well not imo), but I guess the best advice would be to try to get experience playing oop and see how it works for you.
Another thing I notice in the video is that you cbet, ch-raise and bluffbet fairly small. Do you think Villians fold% is somewhat steady no matter the size, and can you draw a line between this strategy and the Optimizing Growth article Skates wrote?
Soooooo villain dependant. Sometimes my sizing will be bigger, sometimes smaller. In general though with the smaller SPR that we get in husng's I think you often achieve the same results while risking less.
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mjw006 says:
@ 14:xx you say jamming A7 is standard, whats the reasoning jamming Ax at 20-30 BB ?
http://www.husng.com/content/mersenneary-video-17-advanced-end-game-play...
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/58/heads-up-nl/husng-theory-three-bet-...
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dhcg86 says:
OH HAI DER!
We noticed that villian is nitty from sb.
@20:00 we have Q7o in the SB vs his 9bb stack. Why didnt we shove here?
Il Monk says:
When is it good to start off with this play? Can you use this style on the micro stakes on the $1 and $2 or $5? Or is it better to use a basic abc style on these stakes?
Ellegance says:
hey mjw006,
just for your query about the 87s call I definately think that this call is more correct than the Q10o a little later on in this exact spot vs this exact opponent
zenoleoni says:
I liked the video, it is the only one that I have managed to watch untill the end. I have one question though:
How did you make your Hud so pimpy? Do you have any links to walkthrough's etc.
Cheers for any reply :)
Edit-if there is an x at the bottom of the video it is a glitch and not meant in a gay way, not that there is anything wrong with homeosexuality.
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RyPac13 says:
Always exploit your opponent Monk, whenever the opportunity arises.
kobayashi says:
Hey mjw.
Love your videos.
How do you get those nifty 50%, 2.5xBB buttons in stars?
Also, would you mind uploading your HUD configuration and share it with us ?
mjw006 says:
Hey guys, for those asking about my HUD configuration, all credit has to go to lolsteamroller (same guy who has the HUD for sale on main page of this site). He did all the work and I just did the colour-coding for it and added a little insight here and there in regards to what stats etc. The thread can be found here -> http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/185/heads-up-sng/awesome-hud-v2-free-1...
How do you get those nifty 50%, 2.5xBB buttons in stars?
Options -> Bet slider options =) Easy as that.
Cheers,
Matt
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