Cog Dissonance Video 17 - Heads Up Fundamentals - Tight

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Cog Dissonance offers a look into his popular Heads Up Fundamentals training course in this video about playing tight players.

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RyPac13 says:

I just want to clarify a few things because we've had some questions about this video:

- This is similar to part of the HUF course that Paul offers to students.

- It is similar to the "tight" section he teaches, which composes about 1/4 of his overall coaching lessons.

- There are key differences, mainly this video does not allow the kind of 1 on 1 interaction and adaptive quizzing that Paul uses in live sessions.  The video just illustrates the points that he makes in his sessions, particularly in the tight session.

- Much like poker book publishers releasing a few chapters to give prospective customers an idea of what the final product has to offer, this video gives you glimpse into the kind of concepts that you would be taught in Paul's program.

- That being said, the tight player is generally considered the easiest player to exploit.  Other player types, particularly the aggressive player are NOT covered in this video, and make up a lot of the value from Paul's live session.

In the end, we've tried to balance giving out too much exact information that you would find in Paul's training course and at the same time give you an idea of what to expect.  I feel we have done that by including the most basic player type to exploit, and only covering concepts found in 1/4 of his series.  I believe this protects the value his students are receiving while at the same time gives regular members a good value and look inside his program.

If you have any questions you can feel free to PM me or ask them here.

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REBTgenius says:

Greetings Paul,

I just wanted to compliment you on a five star video.  This format works well in my opinion (as I mentioned to Rypac and Primo who have used similar arrangements) and will work well with people of varying learning styles.  I personally loved the intro slide show as I learn visually, especially by reading.  However, my verbal comprehension is pretty marginal.  Also, the three-pronged approach (slide show intro, game play with discussion, post-analysis) enables you to cover the same material on various dimensions without becoming unnecessarily repetitive.

I imagine you put a lot of thought into your video as it was well-organized.  Also, I'm happy you chose a player who represented the extreme end of the tightness scale.  It helped keep the discussion simple and easy to understand.  Also, it made the video more memorable.  Furthermore, I feel like I have a more organized representation of a tight player.  My schema for the tight player would be less concrete and more disorganized if you picked a player who switched gears or was "just" moderately tight.  I look forward to seeing the rest of the series and wanted to thank you for the considerable effort you must have put into this fabulous video.

Cheers,

Jeffrey

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REBTgenius says:

Greetings Ryan,

Thanks for the clarification.  I wrote my previous post before reading your response (hence I mistakenly thought there would be a series).  Anyway, I'm wondering if you're still considering following up on Video 15 with your own series? 

Thanks,

Jeffrey

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cog dissonance says:

Thank you Jeffrey!
I did put a lot of thought into this video and had the rest of the series ready to make, but I felt it would detract from my coaching (I use the same material in my fundamentals course). Ryan convinced me to release this one, so I'm glad you've enjoyed it and hope my students understand that a lot of the value from the coaching is not just the pure information but the practice matches, quizzes and opportunity to ask questions which go along with the coaching.

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RyPac13 says:

Hi Jeffrey,

While Paul won't likely be doing a followup to this series anytime soon, the site will do its job to keep getting videos up that cover every possible aspect of the game.

My series on exploiting different player types will go on.  The style and format will likely be different than what Paul teaches, but in the end it will have the same effects: teaching members how to exploit different player types.

Now, those of you that feel Paul can help you learn further and more efficiently, you will still get great value out of his training course.  Just as I feel students still get great value out of my coaching, despite the release of many videos covering the same concepts I teach.

So, we will not be holding anything back.  Paul's case is kind of an exception.  He has a very specific way of teaching in his course and he doesn't want to necessarily use the exact same material for his videos.  I am perfectly fine with this because if you just watch all of Paul's videos, you'll be learning great concepts, it just won't be in the same format as his private coaching course.

I think it is siimlar to a player not revealing how to exploit another specific player.  If xSCWx is beating "John Doe" over and over in the 1ks, he's not likely going to make a video playing John Doe and telling us all how to exploit him.  For obvious reasons, this is more than fine, it doesn't detract from the quality of videos xSCWx puts out at all.

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REBTgenius says:

Greetings Paul,

I've already used content specific to this video to destroy a few low limit villains.  It exposed a major leak in my own game as I was "talking trash and being unruly" with clueless players.  Basically, I was being aggressive from the get go and unnecessarily increased their aggression; it's as though they felt like cornered rats fighting for their self preservation. 

Your system seems somewhat antithetical to so much of what is taught as conventional wisdow, but it really does work against these villains.  I'm very grateful that you made this video.  Of course, I'd like an entire series, but you can't have your cake and eat it too.  I'm very satisfied getting one generous serving.  And, your past videos have been instrumental in my improvement.  This video should constitute very good advertising for your coaching services.  Ryan did a great service to the site by persuading you to have this video included in the HUSNG library.

Thanks again,

Jeffrey

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REBTgenius says:

Greetings Ryan,

I should start of by expressing my gratitude for persuading Paul to release this stellar video.  Also, I'm pleased to hear that you plan to proceed with your own series.  Your original video was well-organized and used a format similar to Paul's.  As I've said previously, this format is highly desireable as it enables students to learn material both efficiently and deeply.  At least that's my vantage point.

Also, I totally can understand your point about instructors being selective with the material they release.  They certainly aren't obligated to release all of their trade secrets.  Furthermore, instructors have to balance the time they spend making videos with performing other duties as instructors (and professional poker players).  I'm more than impessed with the quality of the videos you've posted.  As a customer, my demands are pretty straightforward: I want audible and viewable videos that feature instructors who are capable of using sound reasoning and teaching me various winning concepts.  And I don't care about their stats or reputation or image.  You guys have exceeded my expectations.

Thank you,

Jeffrey

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maumau says:

tbh i was a bit pissed as i read a part of pauls course is released here - but after rethinking i think its not the nicest thing in the world in direction to paying student but some kind of ok as most of the course is based on 1-1 conversation and interaction + after taking the course youll normally be able to grind back the course price

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iyotank says:

Awesome, very good video, I seen four videos and now know that 65$ it was a cheap investiment, I hope I could gather 300$ soon,  I'm amazed by how much I don't know.

Thanks

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boggzilla says:

Paul,

Well explained. I think to that I have run into some of your students in games? Maybe Maybe not. I can say when you encounter an opponent that is min raising the button it can be a bit paralyzing because you are being given great odds to hit a nasty 2 pair and break them but without adjusting he will fold strong hands to a raise or CR. I just hope that all the aggro bet bet bet guys don't realize that adapting to your opponent is where you make your money in HUSNGs

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qattack says:

5 Stars!

This is a must-see video for everyone with a Standard membership.

I'm just awaiting the rest of the series. I know, it will be quite a while longer, but I'll be first in line to view those videos.

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condorandino says:

Great video, really interesting to see how aggression must be dosified against certain players. Very educational. By the way, there was a hand at 25-50 where you had AJo on the BTN and you 3xed him. What would you have done in case he flatted and checked on a baby board like for instance 732tt? Would you cbet him? As per what you exposed on the video I am inclined to think he had you crushed, although you can most probably make him fold AK or AQ. Is that enough for a cbet, having into account the pot is a bit big?

 

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riekinho says:

So far my personal favorite on this site.

 

I like how the video flows from theory to practice on one specific topic. Definitely a pointer to others to follow in that direction. I think concentrating on one particular subject and explaining it so well can't get any better then in this video. Would love to purchase the bundle of those videos, so bad they are not coming out any time soon.

 

Just curios, at what level did you run into this guy who plays optimal 18-man ring game strategy?

 

P.S. My term for such a player, on the lucky occasion that I run into one, is DISCONNECTED player because play flows almost similar to when a player loses connection.

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