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Coffeeyay Hyper Turbo Leakfinder Pt 2

 

Coffeeyay continues with part 2 of his turbo leakfinder in which he discusses opening more hands against fish and what board types are good for check/raising. Check out Adam's Math in HUSNGs video pack available today.

    zoozy's picture
    Great vid, enjoyed it a

    Great vid, enjoyed it a lot.
    I have some questions:
    On 698 board then we bet 60 into 80 (vid: 6:29), do you think it's also fine against a thinking player who is most likely view it as a stronger range?
    With T4s at 9bb (vid: 17:04), I used to shove this all the time (read somewhere where mersennary sugested it), you disagree and say that it's a m/r fold or a limp, is it true against all sorts of villains?
    Thanks for your time.

    outs_on_the_moon's picture
    BSq

    OMG, sorry coffeejay but I just HAD to make a comment for people watching this vid.
    That reasoning with calling K8s at 09:30 and playing postflop is just such a BS.
    First of all dont call pre!!! at the $15 vs a 40 to t120 bet. It's not even "close to a call". There is no mathematical justification to call vs general population tendencies range!.
    K9s the same for that matter.
    Here i go: villains ranges for a 40-120 3bet at $15 is usually strong Ax hand and medium to strong PP's. You have to invest 80 chips and You'll hit your King around 1 in 6 times (not even always as toppair), meaning that if you play your hand for toppair value you have to earn 6*80 chips - 480 just to breakeven on your investment. Problem is only that villain is not always gonna put his whole stack in here when he has tt-QQ and there are also times your running into aa/kk/ak and the occasional kq/kj and its you who's gonna give your stack to villain instead of vice versa.
    If you hit a non toppair with your 8, your still in rough spot and if villain bets flop+turn you probably have to give up most of the time depending on how you think the particular villain would play hands like ak/aq. And even if you hit toppair with your 8 half of villains 3bet-valuerange is 88+ and your still crushed. And really : how big is villains non-value 3bet range at the $15 with this preflop betsizing???
    So in general at $15 is suggest people just fold versus unknows if they 3bet especially this sizing 40-120.
    2nd of all calling turn i dont like at all. You gonna realize your equity(??). O really(hes setting up for a perfect river bet?? Andeven if not(with a tt-KK)? your putting 100 chips in where your almost always beat here. Generel population tendency players at $15 have an Ax or pocketpair something like jj-kk here that they are not betting. And if they would have blufs in there 3bet range wouldnt they eb cbetting this flop most of the time??? So forget about it. You're crushed on the turn.
     
    Nothing pretty close about calling or folding imo. Dont talk yourself into bad decisions. Just fold and youll win a lot more on yearly base.
    But if anyone really thinks callign is good here GReat! I'm grinding the $15s and $30 atm so I'll be taking your money gladly ;-p

    metonezajima's picture
    wow this just not like that.

    wow this just not like that. Coffeeyay clearly sais fold to began with. Second If you give villan a range AT+, TT+ you actually have like 25% equity but you act like you are dead against that range and never got any value which is nonsence. Not to mention that I have seen fish on 15s have such thinks as low Ax hands and Kx hands at least some of the time. Not very often but they do have it sometimes. You dont even take into account all the spots they miss the flop you hit stronger hands on the turn or they dont  fold their hands because they were strong pre and they are unable to fold. Adam is just trying to fully go through the hand with all the possible outcomes. Thats why he is trying to elaborate on this. I have just had my third session with him and one thing you could never expect is Coffeeyay giving you wrong reasoning mathswise. He is a great coach and is able to very clearly expleain what is good and why, always trying to have you understand why would you use such line with such a range. I would fully recommend his coaching to everyone. What you see in the vids as just a teaser :)