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tamamo's picture
$7spin limppot double barrel

Poker Stars $6.58+$0.42 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 2 players - http://www.handconverter.com/hands/2867511
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Hero (BTN/SB): t682         17.05 BBs
BB: t818         20.45 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BTN/SB with 7d 4h
Hero calls t20, BB checks

Flop: (t80) Ks 6d 8h (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t42, BB calls t42

Turn: (t164) Jh (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t109, BB folds

 

readless.

I think turned 2nd highcard on such board (many GS type hand might call flop) is good barrel card.

plus I have some equity.

How do you think such double barrel? and How about sizing?

when called turn, we give up on the river? Villain might call turn with 8x, some 6x, and OESD(T9,97,75) but probably fold to blank river.

 

adam25185's picture
Great spot for a

Great spot for a barrel.

Firstly, we have equity with the gutshot. Even if villain is trapping with a set of kings, we claim the pot 16% of the time, recouping 32% of our bluff.

Secondly, we fold out two underpairs to the jack. Generally, if you only fold out one underpair (plus some high cards) barreling is about break even. Once you fold out two underpairs, it's significatly plus EV.

So, once we check both boxes, we should barrel off here. And by that I mean bet turn and shove river on any card that doesn't pair the board. You should probably give up on heart rivers also. Most people are scared of the backdoor flush, so barreling makes less sense.

tamamo's picture
thank you for reply.How

thank you for reply.

How about only complete one of two check boxes case? assume agianst average recplayer.

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another

Should we barrel all these cases?

effective 12bb

Hero(SB) Qc2c limp

flop Jc 5c 4h (2bb)

minlcb and called

turn 6h (4bb)

villain check, Hero?

we have stronger draw than above hand, but this time turn 6 is not so scary card for villain.

still bet turn and continue blank river?

 

effective 11bb

Hero(SB) Kd7s or 5h3d limp

flop Ah Tc 6h (2bb)

lcb and called

turn Jh (4bb)

villain check, Hero?

K7o has GS but noFD, 53o has 1cardFD, 

 

 

adam25185's picture
Hand 1: I disagree that 6h

Hand 1: I disagree that 6h isn't a scary card. We could easily have 78, 37, or 34. Plus we could have 6x (alright a reg never barrels 6x here, but many players do, and villain is unlikely to know this). I think you get a lot of folds from 5x 4x type hands. And we should barrel off on all unpaired rivers too. 

Hand 2: Barreling off here depends on villain shoving all his Ax preflop. All the same, Ax board are kinda bad for barreling. You just don't get much credit in my opinion. I'd much rather barrel Hand 1. After all, most of OUR Ax are open shoving or minraise-calling.

 

 

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hand1but ​I think also

hand1

but ​I think also villain could have these holdings and decent amount of 6x such as 86,76,63,62 and 65 64.

other GS become 1card OESD.

 

hand2

so basically we play one&done Axxflop at shallow?

adam25185's picture
hand 1: I'm not all that

hand 1: I'm not all that bothered about my opponent having 6x or turning an OESD. We will be shoving river on any card that doesn't complete the straight or pair the board. So effectively we get even more value out of 6x.

hand 2: yeah, that's about right, readless. we will never get credit for Ax from the average opponent. if opponent knows we can be limp-trapping Ax that might change. but probably not IMHO. correct me if im wrong?