$100 turbo husng top pro session review

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 Not sure how to link this properly. Mike Brady is/was a shark at the $100 turbos. Not every reg is a good teacher, but I'm more impressed by this session review than by any other content I ever paid for. The video starts with a brief summary of fundamentals and ranges in position and out of position. It is common to drop the bottom end of both ranges if you're not very comfortable playing post flop, so I try to memorize these ranges and stick to them. By default we should be opening roughly 80% in position (only drop most off suit 2s and some 3s), and if villain foods the BB more than 50% we should open all hands in position. For the BB range we should be flatting 30-35% and 3betting 15%( balanced with 9%value and 6%bluff), so we end up defending 50% and the opponent can not exploit us by opening all hands. After those guidelines the actual session starts and every street of every hand is discussed in great depth. I've seen it 15 times by now and I'm still learning 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0osADbiEqJg

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Sorry to disappoint you, but

Sorry to disappoint you, but the advice on BB play is actually quite bad. The video is from 2012 and 100$ regs back then is not better than 15$ regs today.

You should check out the free Turbo videos on this site from 2015.

PS there may be a lot to learn from the video you posted, but there are content that are much more up to date.

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^this Playing 50% vpip in the

^this

Playing 50% vpip in the BB vs a min-raise is throwing away money--it's just an absolutely terrible strategy. Defending 50% actually makes minraising 72o vs you way more profitable than open-folding, so it's very far from making minr-raise bluffing bad. A balanced VPIP in the BB vs a min-raise is around 80%, so by playing 50% you're not just making bluffing good you're making it "omg I'm printing money clicking 1 button over and over vs this player" good!

The SB advice is also bad, limping is important at every stack depth (but especially shallow), and a balanced VPIP from SB is around 95% at most stack depths--vs most players you face open folding is a big mistake and both limping and minraising is better with 72o. Again playing 80% in SB is just throwing away profit.

Didn't watch the rest of the vid, but given the massive misunderstandings the "top pro" is promoting pre-flop I'm not too optimisitc about his post-flop strategy. Just goes to show how far the game has evolved haha!

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I assume that the ranges he

I assume that the ranges he advised relate to 75BB poker, and thus vs a 3x not a min raise. He does throw in limps with a balanced range at shorter stack depths, but mainly to induce. Aside from CogDissonance (and this is at lower stakes), I do not know any winning players who advocate limping from the small blind at 75BB. Feel free to describe a default range for limping in position this deep, being better than open raising. 

@ coffeeyay Are you seriously suggesting that we should defend 80% of hands out of position at 75bb? Flatting what range and 3betting what range? I wonder what your strategy is for playing all these hands post flop, and how playing 80% of hands OOP is going to lead to smaller losses in the long run compared to playing 50%. I think it is mainly going to make your post flop life hell and maximize losses vs any competent player in position.

The author has graphs of his sharkscope stats in the video. 5% ROI at the hundreds I believe (this was 2012) and back then he was ambitious about playing higher. I'm astonished by your quote saying that the $100 of 2012 equals the $15 level of 2015. Curious to see what the population on 2+2 thinks about it. I haven't played for a long time, and wonder in what way the gameflow has changed.

We can verify how Mike Brady is doing today. I sure will

 

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The 3 best HU turbo players

The 3 the best HU turbo players (VBV1990, Otb_Redbaron and Ike Haxton) limps at 75bb, but it is not really that important to limp before you get down to around 35bb-40bb.

I think 30$ players today is much better than the video maker (did he go busto? http://pokerprolabs.com/catattafish/ipoker/2013/any) was in 2012, but most 15$ players have much more significant leaks so it is hard to say. We gave you good constructive feedback and you don't have to follow it, but if you want to improve then you have to embrace uncertainty and try to learn new things.

I could probable do well against the best players in the world if he had to fold 50% in the BB. It is that big a leak.

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Check out his Facebook

Check out his Facebook account. He plays big events around the world and lives in Vegas. I just spoke to him and he agrees that the videos are outdated. He would defend more than 80% OOP in case it is 1) vs a minraise 2) if villain is opening 100% and 3) if he's not supertough post flop.

I'm surprised to see the games change so much in just 2 years. Guess I can dump all content on my older laptop then

 

 

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I don't think those were the

I don't think those were the correct plays in 2013 or 2014 either. I don't think it was the best strategy around that time, it hasn't changed that much, it's just more mainstream that it is correct.

Mersenneary's ebook came out over 4 years ago and he mentioned that the biggest leaks even good players had back then were that they folded too often preflop. I can't speak for the videos or the player personally, but it sounds like the OOP strategy at the time wasn't the best.

That's not picking on him either, I'm sure some of our non elite coaches that made videos in the subscription package in 2012 were making similar mistakes.

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I totaly agree with you

I totaly agree with you Kalupso!

​p.s. Sorry for the irrilevant question but Otb really play HU Turbo?? I thought that i was the king of the NL 500 Zoom, not HU SNG..

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I am not sure who is best of

I am not sure who is best of VBV and OtB, but they are the two players that gets most respect at 5k and they don't seem to play any lower. OtBs main game is 5k-40k NL 6max and is top 3 6max player in the world.

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oooo very nice, i knew i was

oooo very nice, i knew i was a 6-max beast but not that he rules also at the 5k hu turbo !! In your opinion who are other guys who sits at the 5k turbo?? I think Olivier is certainly who of those guys...other names besides Ike, Vbv and redbaron? 

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I don't think adonis112 play

I don't think adonis112 plays many games higher than 1k or 2k now.

w00kiez. (Jungleman) also sits the 5ks, but there are not many other I think.